At the Debate Tonight

[headshuck]

Kangaroo on the Barbie

[Paul158]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

It's not.  It all started after these claims started being amplified and every single "report" is second and third hand.  Where are all these actual victims?  It's made up and, again, real people are suffering due to this.  Real human beings, and you're attitude is part of the reason. 

Nothing like the media to sensationalize the stories without getting all the facts. You've got sell the papers and get clicks in order to boost revenue. 

[Offthemat]

Reading about the mountain men, it was said that while they prized an elk steak, mountain lion was an absolute delicacy. 

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, Paul158 said:

Nothing like the media to sensationalize the stories without getting all the facts. You've got sell the papers and get clicks in order to boost revenue. 

And we certainly shouldn't expect a higher standard from Lord Leader and his mate...gotta get clicks and boost the grift from the minions.

Edited September 13 by WrestlingRasta

[jross]

23 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

MAGA is having a real hard time with reality...

 

 

[ionel]

2 hours ago, jross said:

 

 

What happens when the MAGA start cross breeding with the MAHA?  

[Wrestleknownothing]

As I was saying, one of Trump's favorite bits is, when challenged, to play (?) dumb even while exposing himself as a liar. How about this ditty about that nut job, Laura Loomer?

“She’s a strong person. She’s got strong opinions, and I don’t know what she said, but that’s not up to me. She’s a supporter,” Trump said.

So which is it? You know about her opinions? Or you don't know what she said? All in the same sentence.

Or how about him not giving two shits about the people he puts in danger with his lunatic claims?

The city hall in Springfield was forced to close due to a bomb threat on Thursday. Two elementary schools were evacuated Friday “based on information received from the Springfield Police Division,” the Springfield City School District announced Friday. Two local hospitals — Kettering Health and Mercy Health Springfield Regional Medical Center — were also forced into lockdown due to bomb threats Saturday, according to statements sent to CNN.

And then Trump goes to his patented "I'm too dumb to know what is going on" cop out:

 

Trump dismissed those concerns on Friday, and again on Saturday when asked whether he denounced the threats in Springfield.

“I don’t know what happened with the, uh, bomb threats,” Trump said.

The man is a coward.

[VakAttack]

Bringing a 9/11 Truther to the 9/11 Memorial event.  You know, like a true patriot.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

Loomer's more than a bit of a nut.

https://x.com/Nero/status/1835423223300976687

[Wrestleknownothing]

57 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Loomer's more than a bit of a nut.

https://x.com/Nero/status/1835423223300976687

Someone needs to fill the Sidney Powell role for the Trump campaign.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

24 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Someone needs to fill the Sidney Powell role for the Trump campaign.

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Every member of Laura Loomer’s 2020 campaign staff approached by me ahead of publication declined to comment. Each of them gave the same reason: Fear of public reprisals. Laura Loomer did not return a request for comment.
 

A tearful Jeff Loomer declined to say over the phone whether he was currently considering another involuntary psychiatric hold for his daughter, given her bizarre claim this week that she has been performing oral sex on President Trump, but did not rule it out.

 

[billyhoyle]

On 9/14/2024 at 9:57 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

As I was saying, one of Trump's favorite bits is, when challenged, to play (?) dumb even while exposing himself as a liar. How about this ditty about that nut job, Laura Loomer?

“She’s a strong person. She’s got strong opinions, and I don’t know what she said, but that’s not up to me. She’s a supporter,” Trump said.

So which is it? You know about her opinions? Or you don't know what she said? All in the same sentence.

Or how about him not giving two shits about the people he puts in danger with his lunatic claims?

The city hall in Springfield was forced to close due to a bomb threat on Thursday. Two elementary schools were evacuated Friday “based on information received from the Springfield Police Division,” the Springfield City School District announced Friday. Two local hospitals — Kettering Health and Mercy Health Springfield Regional Medical Center — were also forced into lockdown due to bomb threats Saturday, according to statements sent to CNN.

And then Trump goes to his patented "I'm too dumb to know what is going on" cop out:

 

Trump dismissed those concerns on Friday, and again on Saturday when asked whether he denounced the threats in Springfield.

“I don’t know what happened with the, uh, bomb threats,” Trump said.

The man is a coward.

It's the same thing he did with Charlottesville. He said there were "very fine people on both sides," when one side was composed entirely of Neo Nazis (the "unite the right" event was an alt right/neo nazi rally). In the next sentence, he says he isn't talking about the neo nazis (even though that is what that group was composed of). He has never acknowledged that statement as being wrong and to his own detriment continues to support almost anyone who supports him. 

[Offthemat]

 

[Scouts Honor]

more lies

 

[Offthemat]

In the sense that Korea and Vietnam weren’t wars, either?

[mspart]

On 9/16/2024 at 4:43 PM, billyhoyle said:

It's the same thing he did with Charlottesville. He said there were "very fine people on both sides," when one side was composed entirely of Neo Nazis (the "unite the right" event was an alt right/neo nazi rally). In the next sentence, he says he isn't talking about the neo nazis (even though that is what that group was composed of). He has never acknowledged that statement as being wrong and to his own detriment continues to support almost anyone who supports him. 

Even Snopes called it false.  Not sure what he has to acknowledge. 

mspart

[billyhoyle]

8 minutes ago, mspart said:

Even Snopes called it false.  Not sure what he has to acknowledge. 

mspart

The protest against the statue removal was organized by people in the white nationalist movement, "Unite the right.". Who were the fine people on that side of the protest? Look up who actually organized the Charlottesville protest and you'll see that nobody involved was a fine person.  The people there counterprotesting were doing so against actual nazis/white supreme.  Charlottesville wasn't like January 6th where it was a bunch of Trump supporters where some were regular supporters and others were extremists.

The people who were at Charlottesville are part of the neo nazi/KKK movement. Trump often wonders out loud why he doesn't get more Jewish supporters despite being a strong supporter of Israel, and I guarantee you that this is a huge reason.  He said there were very fine people in a neo nazi rally and never backed down from it. That is not something that he can just sweep under the rug.

Edited September 18 by billyhoyle

[Scouts Honor]

at this point, it's just all made up

 

[Bigbrog]

12 hours ago, billyhoyle said:

The protest against the statue removal was organized by people in the white nationalist movement, "Unite the right.". Who were the fine people on that side of the protest? Look up who actually organized the Charlottesville protest and you'll see that nobody involved was a fine person.  The people there counterprotesting were doing so against actual nazis/white supreme.  Charlottesville wasn't like January 6th where it was a bunch of Trump supporters where some were regular supporters and others were extremists.

The people who were at Charlottesville are part of the neo nazi/KKK movement. Trump often wonders out loud why he doesn't get more Jewish supporters despite being a strong supporter of Israel, and I guarantee you that this is a huge reason.  He said there were very fine people in a neo nazi rally and never backed down from it. That is not something that he can just sweep under the rug.

In other words no matter the meaning, context and his exact words you are still going to go with the rhetoric that he supports neo nazi's...got it.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/18/trump-election-georgia

[jross]

15 hours ago, billyhoyle said:

The protest against the statue removal was organized by people in the white nationalist movement, "Unite the right.". Who were the fine people on that side of the protest? Look up who actually organized the Charlottesville protest and you'll see that nobody involved was a fine person.  The people there counterprotesting were doing so against actual nazis/white supreme.  Charlottesville wasn't like January 6th where it was a bunch of Trump supporters where some were regular supporters and others were extremists.

The people who were at Charlottesville are part of the neo nazi/KKK movement. Trump often wonders out loud why he doesn't get more Jewish supporters despite being a strong supporter of Israel, and I guarantee you that this is a huge reason.  He said there were very fine people in a neo nazi rally and never backed down from it. That is not something that he can just sweep under the rug.

You keep framing in a way as if the only people supporting the retainment of the Lee statue at the awful Unite the Right rally were neo nazis and white nationalists.  This is false.   Most of them were but not all, including locals and heritage/history preservationists.  There were also militia groups there for reasons other than race reasons.  A lot of nuts IMO.

You leave out that he condemned neo nazis and white nationalists repeatedly, at different times, and directly in the 'fine people' discussion.

Read it fully yourself: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/15/full-text-trump-comments-white-supremacists-alt-left-transcript-241662

Another spin job is to say that Trump called Antifa as very fine people.  Why isn't it being spun this way?

No.  He said that Antifa, Neo Nazis, White Nationalists, extremists committing violence are bad.  But he also said there there were people on the right and left of this issue at the rally who were peaceful and fine.

Edited September 18 by jross

[Caveira]

I mean.  
 

I grew up knowing the children of the community …. Are the children of the community.  

 

didn’t you?
 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFjRfJt7/

[billyhoyle]

12 hours ago, jross said:

You keep framing in a way as if the only people supporting the retainment of the Lee statue at the awful Unite the Right rally were neo nazis and white nationalists.  This is false.   Most of them were but not all, including locals and heritage/history preservationists.  There were also militia groups there for reasons other than race reasons.  A lot of nuts IMO.

You leave out that he condemned neo nazis and white nationalists repeatedly, at different times, and directly in the 'fine people' discussion.

Read it fully yourself: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/15/full-text-trump-comments-white-supremacists-alt-left-transcript-241662

Another spin job is to say that Trump called Antifa as very fine people.  Why isn't it being spun this way?

No.  He said that Antifa, Neo Nazis, White Nationalists, extremists committing violence are bad.  But he also said there there were people on the right and left of this issue at the rally who were peaceful and fine.

I'm not suggesting that everyone who wants to keep the confederate statue is a neo nazi/KKK member.  I am suggesting that everyone who shows up to a specific rally organized by neo nazis is also neo nazi. I doubt you have gone to a rally organized by neo nazis. The entire reason that there was a huge counter-protest to Charlottesville was that it was known to be a Neo Nazi/KKK rally-it wasn't a counter protest against keeping the statue.  You don't see counter-protests like the one at Charlottesville at Trump rallies or rallies for republican politicians. You do see it whenever the KKK has public events though.

There is an effort to redefine who showed up to Unite the Right at Charlottesville, but it is not disputable who organized it. They had a Tiki Torch parade where they chanted, "Jews will not replace us" over and over again. Was anybody marching in that parade while "Jews will not replace us" was being chanted somebody you would consider a "fine person" or somebody you would consider to not be a neo nazi? Or was every single person marching while that was being chanted racist?

14 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

In other words no matter the meaning, context and his exact words you are still going to go with the rhetoric that he supports neo nazi's...got it.

Do you think that any "fine people" were marching with tiki torches while people around them chanted, "Jews will not replace us"?

Edited September 19 by billyhoyle

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

Here comes the inevitable "Buh, buh mah heritage! State's rights! War of northern agression!" sloganeering.

[Caveira]

7 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Here comes the inevitable "Buh, buh mah heritage! State's rights! War of northern agression!" sloganeering.

Maybe here comes the intifada the left supports now?   Or from what River to what sea?