1032004 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) Edited November 13, 2023 by 1032004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 The kid just trained for and peaked for the world two months ago. I wouldn’t get too antsy. I don’t think it would be surprising if he wasn’t 100% into it right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 He wanted to get away from the Hodge distraction straight away. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 11 hours ago, 1032004 said: I think Crookham should be 1st. If it was just a dual and he pulled an upset over the #1, I’d say it’s not enough to put him that high. But he won a tough tournament and also beat the #6. If rankings are to reflect current results (which they are), I’d say he’s #1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Eagle26 said: I think Crookham should be 1st. If it was just a dual and he pulled an upset over the #1, I’d say it’s not enough to put him that high. But he won a tough tournament and also beat the #6. If rankings are to reflect current results (which they are), I’d say he’s #1 Crookham will face Fix in December so really no reason to bump him to #1 till then. He'd prob be better off not going into GIA as the #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 39 minutes ago, ionel said: Crookham will face Fix in December so really no reason to bump him to #1 till then. He'd prob be better off not going into GIA as the #1. Is he studying architecture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Is he studying architecture? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, ionel said: ? Phipps got a little study time Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Crookham looked really good in that match. Vito looked like he wasn't excited to be there. Maybe it was a mental mistake on his part. Vito had some great shots but Crookham had some great defense. For a freshman, he showed maturity beyond his years. I say Crookham is a player this year barring injury. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Crookham will face Fix in December so really no reason to bump him to #1 till then. He'd prob be better off not going into GIA as the #1. Or, why not just put Crookham at #1 now since Fix will have a chance to take it from him in December?In all honesty, I’d be fine with 1. Fix, 2. Crookham, 3. Vito. You can argue it either way though… how does Fix go above Vito, or how does Crookham go above Fix (if you put Crookham #1)? I predict that Vito will win it all in March, but rankings and predictions are different. I’d be disappointed if they keep Vito ranked ahead of Crookham. Otherwise, it’s debatable how it should be right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: Or, why not just put Crookham at #1 now since Fix will have a chance to take it from him in December? In all honesty, I’d be fine with 1. Fix, 2. Crookham, 3. Vito. You can argue it either way though… how does Fix go above Vito, or how does Crookham go above Fix (if you put Crookham #1)? I predict that Vito will win it all in March, but rankings and predictions are different. I’d be disappointed if they keep Vito ranked ahead of Crookham. Otherwise, it’s debatable how it should be right now. Fix could go above Vito by the fact that he hasn't lost this year (I know thin data). Sure it doesn't matter but I don't think Crookham will want to go into GIA as the #1 in the country. By mid Dec it will be worked out as the round robin between the three should be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Crookham the next Cael? As in undefeated 4 years? Ok, that's a long shot but does anyone see why he couldn't be a 4 time NCAA champion? A lot of promise shown in that match. Not a feared of anyone. Confident. Very impressive. I guess we'll see when the time comes. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: The kid just trained for and peaked for the world two months ago. I wouldn’t get too antsy. I don’t think it would be surprising if he wasn’t 100% into it right now. The first TD he was literally looking to run the lace as part of his chain wrestling. I have a hunch the returning freestyle world champ with an eye toward making the olympic freestyle team had a lapse in judgment at his first folk competition. I bet he also didn't expose his shoulders despite the fact you can basically pin yourself and still come out ahead 3-0 (twoooooo!). He still shouldn't be too worried, the only two people who can beat him in March are 1) himself and 2) another senior world silver medalist that he properly dismantled in the lesser style last March. Edited November 13, 2023 by bnwtwg 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Watched the match on Youtube and had to rewind to figure how it was 3-0 after the first TD. I was looking for where the penalty point was when I remembered the 3 point TD. This match also make clear to me how much the pushout rule changes wrestling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, mspart said: Crookham the next Cael? As in undefeated 4 years? Ok, that's a long shot but does anyone see why he couldn't be a 4 time NCAA champion? A lot of promise shown in that match. Not a feared of anyone. Confident. Very impressive. I guess we'll see when the time comes. mspart To do that, he'll have to beat Vito at least twice and perhaps three times this year. January and twice in March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I had already considered Crookham to be at a similar level (Mid podium) to Latona who defeated Arujau regular season last year. I would bet heavily that Vito will win the next several rematches but I will be rooting for Crookham anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Crookham is a bit like Lewan. In the sense of good defense and holds center well. Knows how to win a close match with shrewd strategy. I would love if he would open up a bit more because that's more fun to watch but he's a winner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 15 hours ago, BigRedFan said: To do that, he'll have to beat Vito at least twice and perhaps three times this year. January and twice in March. And beat Fix once or twice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 18 hours ago, mspart said: Crookham the next Cael? As in undefeated 4 years? Ok, that's a long shot but does anyone see why he couldn't be a 4 time NCAA champion? A lot of promise shown in that match. Not a feared of anyone. Confident. Very impressive. I guess we'll see when the time comes. mspart Man... it would be cool to see someone pull a Dake, but go undefeated while doing it. 133 141 149 157 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Considered what had happened this Sunday, this is minor in comparison. BUT, guess who's the EIWA Wrestler of the Week? (Yep... you guessed it.) D3 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 20 hours ago, Eagle26 said: Or, why not just put Crookham at #1 now since Fix will have a chance to take it from him in December? In all honesty, I’d be fine with 1. Fix, 2. Crookham, 3. Vito. You can argue it either way though… how does Fix go above Vito, or how does Crookham go above Fix (if you put Crookham #1)? I predict that Vito will win it all in March, but rankings and predictions are different. I’d be disappointed if they keep Vito ranked ahead of Crookham. Otherwise, it’s debatable how it should be right now. What is Vito's weight going to look like in March? (The same could be said of Fix.) Look at the NCAA schedule next to the USA Wrestling schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: What is Vito's weight going to look like in March? (The same could be said of Fix.) Look at the NCAA schedule next to the USA Wrestling schedule. Which was why I wanted two things... - Fix to go 125lbs for NCAAs... - Arujau to go 65 KG for OTT. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mspart Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Well, he has his work cut out for him. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Looks like Intermat went with the other extreme and only put him at #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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