Rosselli Resigns

[scourge165]

24 minutes ago, ionel said:

Where was his 1st and 2nd D1 and where did he interview within 2 years to get a bump to stay at #2?

As far as I understand it, Deion took the job to help build a HBU program, then there was some issue over his salaries(a dispute about his compensation as it was tied to some incentives). 

That was why he left for Colorado...or partially why. 

 

But coaches from revenue generating sports from the power 5 use interest from other schools to get pay bumps fairly regularly. Coaches have a good year or two and they get massive deals at a lot of the Power5. 

This leads to some absolutely terrible decisions by Athletic Departments. 

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Mel Tucker’s job leading Michigan State to a resurgent season made him one of the hottest coaches in the country and a potential target to poach.

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/mel-tuckers-massive-contract-extension-is-fully-guaranteed-with-buyout-unchanged.html

 

It doesn't seem real common in Wrestling though. I can't recall a situation in which a coach has gone and visited another program offering him an extension just to use it as leverage...

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

As far as I understand it, Deion took the job to help build a HBU program, then there was some issue over his salaries(a dispute about his compensation as it was tied to some incentives). 

That was why he left for Colorado...or partially why. 

 

But coaches from revenue generating sports from the power 5 use interest from other schools to get pay bumps fairly regularly. Coaches have a good year or two and they get massive deals at a lot of the Power5. 

This leads to some absolutely terrible decisions by Athletic Departments. 

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/mel-tuckers-massive-contract-extension-is-fully-guaranteed-with-buyout-unchanged.html

 

It doesn't seem real common in Wrestling though. I can't recall a situation in which a coach has gone and visited another program offering him an extension just to use it as leverage...

I will bet 200 PC (pastry coin) that Koll isn't doing this for a salary bump.

If he were (only 2 yr post big promises) it'd be a good sign to both AD's that you are not seriously trying to save & elevate the wrestling program.

[Formally140]

8 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

As far as I understand it, Deion took the job to help build a HBU program, then there was some issue over his salaries(a dispute about his compensation as it was tied to some incentives). 

That was why he left for Colorado...or partially why. 

 

But coaches from revenue generating sports from the power 5 use interest from other schools to get pay bumps fairly regularly. Coaches have a good year or two and they get massive deals at a lot of the Power5. 

This leads to some absolutely terrible decisions by Athletic Departments. 

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/mel-tuckers-massive-contract-extension-is-fully-guaranteed-with-buyout-unchanged.html

 

It doesn't seem real common in Wrestling though. I can't recall a situation in which a coach has gone and visited another program offering him an extension just to use it as leverage...

The reason it wasn’t common is because wrestling isn’t a big kid sport compared to bb and fb..

[Le duke]

I will bet 200 PC (pastry coin) that Koll isn't doing this for a salary bump.
If he were (only 2 yr post big promises) it'd be a good sign to both AD's that you are not seriously trying to save & elevate the wrestling program.

You’re betting 200 PC that Koll is doing … what?

Do we have any evidence that Koll did anything at all? Someone see him the airport? See him at OU? Anything beyond what Minnow claims?


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[H82Lose]

8 hours ago, Le duke said:

You’re betting 200 PC that Koll is doing … what?

Do we have any evidence that Koll did anything at all? Someone see him the airport? See him at OU? Anything beyond what Minnow claims?


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Yes, was on campus. I am told he will be announced soon, before the 15th because that is the wrestling banquet.  I am curious if he completely blows the staff up, or keeps Ware or Sam.  NO WAY, they keep Heflin IMO. I have heard Teyon is pissed, and he feels he is gone. I hate to say this, because I like TW ALOT, but that might be a little Karma on how things ended at WY. 

Then again, my sources could SUCK and I could look like a fool.  I have better sources on this deal than that cuck Minnow

[flyingcement]

 

[ionel]

1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

 

so ... not just the minnow smoke'n sump'n. 

 

[flyingcement]

59 minutes ago, ionel said:

so ... not just the minnow smoke'n sump'n. 

 

Yes that and I was proud to share a tweet which contained the word concrete

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Yes that and I was proud to share a tweet which contained the word concrete

Good one there, I missed that, the concrete flew right over my head. 

[Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan]

If Koll departs to OU, do you guys think some of Stanfords elite recruits open their recruitment? Some big names like Aden Valencia ?

[Plasmodium]

On 4/9/2023 at 5:11 AM, H82Lose said:

Yes, was on campus. I am told he will be announced soon, before the 15th because that is the wrestling banquet.  I am curious if he completely blows the staff up, or keeps Ware or Sam.  NO WAY, they keep Heflin IMO. I have heard Teyon is pissed, and he feels he is gone. I hate to say this, because I like TW ALOT, but that might be a little Karma on how things ended at WY. 

Then again, my sources could SUCK and I could look like a fool.  I have better sources on this deal than that cuck Minnow

TW did nothing wrong in Wyoming. Karma or not, 50/50 he gets forced out.

[Ivan Stankowski]

38 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

TW did nothing wrong in Wyoming. Karma or not, 50/50 he gets forced out.

Wyoming is a train wreck and is headed the wrong way, It is going to take a lot to right this ship 

[Le duke]

On 4/9/2023 at 8:32 AM, flyingcement said:

 

 

Edited April 10, 2023 by Le duke

[TexRef]

I don't think many Okies would like to have a Spates mini me 

[MPhillips]

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/college/sooners/2023/04/07/ou-wrestling-fall-isnt-tied-to-now-departed-coach-lou-rosselli/70091662007/

[1032004]

2 hours ago, Le duke said:

 

so he did it for a salary bump?

[scourge165]

On 4/9/2023 at 12:44 PM, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said:

If Koll departs to OU, do you guys think some of Stanfords elite recruits open their recruitment? Some big names like Aden Valencia ?

They almost always do. And this would be devastating for Stanford Wrestling. 

Edit-

Probably a good idea to read through the thread before commenting.

Now, OU potential candidates. Maybe a younger guy? Andrew Howe, both an alum and the type of guy I think could be a very good HC. 

I don't know what he's doing now, just that he lost his job because he refused to get the vaccine. 

Edited April 10, 2023 by scourge165

[Lunaticfringe]

Chris Bono did the game with SDSU. He interviewed and got bumped and did it again with Wisconsin and the AD told him, no more raises. You either want to be here or you don’t. Good choice to move on

[gimpeltf]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

so he did it for a salary bump?

Imagine that!

[CHROMEBIRD]

4 hours ago, 1032004 said:

so he did it for a salary bump?

Very clever! Similarly, I think John Smith has been quiet quitting over at Okie State.

[Plasmodium]

They all lose money.  I can't figure out the reasoning behind paying these folks so much money.

[flyingcement]

5 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

They all lose money.  I can't figure out the reasoning behind paying these folks so much money.

Of course you're right - but because I enjoy the product, I am not too bothered.  I was wondering something actually whether there is any cultural preservation society that could come to the aid of folkstyle wrestling in the ways of funding.  On the basis of this being a distinctly American style of sport which is on the decline and may otherwise go extinct.  Many prominent US presidents wrestled.  It's a matter of culture! /half joking

[flyingcement]

There are many buildings preserved because they are of historical significance.  Why not a sport?

[1032004]

2 hours ago, Plasmodium said:

They all lose money.  I can't figure out the reasoning behind paying these folks so much money.

Not sure about Oklahoma, but isn’t Stanford’s team largely being supported by donors?

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

There are many buildings preserved because they are of historical significance.  Why not a sport?

Very good point and the oldest sport so ...