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Look up form 990 for any private non-profit university in the country. This is the informational return non-profits must file with the IRS. It will include both revenue from athletics and revenue from tuition and fees. It's all revenue of the university. It will also include athletic department salaries in the expenses just like salaries of professors. If you are trying to say that from a budget perspective a school like Penn State allows the athletic department to keep and spend all of its revenue that is somewhat misleading. One expense for many athletic departments that are "their own entity" have js "Athletically related student aid" or in other words athletic scholarships. So the athletic department earns revenue that they get to keep except that they have to pay the tuition of all their scholarship athletes into the academic budget. For a football team with 85 scholarships this is millions of dollar in tuition revenue.

What are you talking about about? The athletic department is part of the university. The athletic department's revenue is included in the revenue of the university. If someone does something that earns revenue for a department of the university they are earning revenue for the university.

They are doing work that generates revenue for the University, just like the faculty and staff. Education is not an unusual benefit for an employer to provide. My employer is a for profit company and they pay me a salary and also have a tuition reimbursement benefit. A college presumably can provide the education at a lower cost than other employers.

If they are not making money how can they afford to pay the coaches and administrators big salaries? How can they afford to build these giant arenas? They money to do this must be paid through substantial revenue.

Many colleges allow employees to take classes either for free or at a discount. It is a pretty common employee benefit. I don't see why they would given athletic employees this benefit.

The expected revenue sharing per school under the settlement is $20 million. Over 150 schools in the list had revenue over $20 million. If your point is that for most schools the expenses are greater than or equal to the revenue that is misleading. These are non profit corporations. They spend what they take in. It's a feature of the system. Since they were not sharing this revenue in a meaningful way with the players, the revenue was taken in web to either the school, the coaches, administrators, and support staff. These groups will obviously have to take a haircut to share the revenue with the players. It was exploitive that they were able to keep it all for all these years.

Roger Reina, Mark Manning, and Kenny Monday are close. Reina graduated from Penn in 1984 and Monday also graduated in 1984. Manning was a 1985 graduate. Davis wrestled at NCAAs in 1985. I think Davis is two months older than Monday. Not sure about Reina and Manning. Reina is planning to retire for the second time in the next couple years. Mark Cody is around the same age as these guys too. Nate Carr is definitely older than Davis. So as long as he's still coaching Davis won't be the oldest D1 head coach.

Davis and Kolat sat together at the Olympic trials last month. They seemed like old friends. Davis seemed to be having a good time. There were a lot of Navy wrestlers there with Kolat too. Having seen that this makes a lot of sense

Wasn't Thompson high school class of 2023? Wouldn't he be off redshirt next year?

Seems effective as it went pending after 4 days.

The Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank. Is there a reason you called them a liberal rag? Do you have a link to the Einstein Institute report? It's systematic, but that doesn't in and of itself mean it there want anything untoward behind it. Democrat presidential candidates routinely win urban polling precincts by large margins in battleground states. That is systematic, but not unexpected nor fishy. Where is the evidence that large numbers of ballots invalid ballots were counted anywhere?

It's as if you entirely forgot what was happened in 2020. There was a global pandemic this resulted in an abnormally large number of absentee/mail in ballots being cast. This was because people either didn't want to go in person to the polls or election/government officials encouraged voters to vote by mail. It takes longer to count mail in ballots than votes cast in person at a voting machine also a well known fact. The counting process in the states in the graphic are not allowed to be processed until Election Day. Some states have different rules which allow for speedier processing, but not WI and MI. The late vote addition in the charts was mail in ballots from urban percents in these states. This was entirely expected. It might be a little surprising how much these votes favored Biden over Trump, but when you look at how much the in person votes favored Biden in the same areas, is it really? And even if it is reason to be suspicious what's missing is the evidence of truckloads of fake/invalid ballots being counted. Where is it? How did it happen in multiple states and get past election officials? Election officials from both parties are present during the count. It's possibly but highly unlikely on the scale some people would like us to believe.

I don't think that's accurate. I think Minnow is a net positive for the sport, but it's a close call. He's a douche and I'd prefer any other outlet to break these stories over him. It's possible I was a little unfair in saying right as much as he is wrong. Certainly in this instance he was more right than wrong, I think I am on his side when it comes to deleting the incorrect/inaccurate tweets. If he tweet's wrong information it is probably best that he removes the tweet rather than leaving it up so that people can keep track of how often he is wrong. He should issue a retraction/correction along with deleting it, but it should be deleted.

Minnow maybe deals too much into rumors and is wrong as often as he is right, but I also appreciate his presence in the sport. If he hadn't broke the story I wonder if we would have ever heard about it. It might come up years later like when Chael mentioned Kurt Angle's HGH test, which I'm not sure if is true or nonsense. I get the feeling if the Flo crew had caught the same information as Minnow and even confirmed it with a source at PSU and/or the Brooks family if they would have not run the story. CP clearly did not want to discuss it when Sonnen roped him into it and I suspect they'd kill the story at the request of PSU/Brooks. Flo is 50% news outlet 50% PR at times.

I've considered the mental experiment of what if Sanderson went back to ISU or some other lesser program. Could he build them up to win a team title? How long would it take? In some ways it will be easier because Sanderson now has this massive reputation as a coach that he didn't have at ISU, but in other ways it will be more difficult. Now PSU will have this massive legacy all its own. All the high school kids that see PSU winning probably think more that they want to wrestle for PSU more than Sanderson specifically. It will be like him recruiting against himself to get the incoming athletes. Some athletes may follow, but I doubt all of them. The best ones likely have NIL deals that could keep them in place. The NIL money isn't going to instantly follow Sanderson to the new location. He will have to try and rebuild that. Perhaps Cunningham stays because his kids are still in school and even if he doesn't I'm sure whoever gets that job will be a massive name. It could be a 5-10 year process for Sanderson to bring some other team into title contention.

I've added Gavin and Baumgartner to the table. Gavin really hasn't have the same level of success at the national tournament as the other guys. He has only coached 4 AAs in 7 years which is a little unlucky because his best team may have been during the COVID year. His team this season was definitely greater than the sum of its parts - I think they beat Ohio State in a dual. I think he's done a good job, but I don't think this would set him up for a bigger gig yet. His guys have been inconsistent. Wentzel, Matthews, and Bonaccorsi have all struggled at times to duplicate their success and it really is only those three guys that have driven his success at the National tournament. Micky Phillippi never making the podium was disappointing. I don't think it's crazy to have Scott as 3rd best coach in the ACC at the time of his departure, but it's pretty close. I also don't think it would be crazy for him to get the OSU job over the other guys in the table given his competition success, the trajectory the UNC program was on, his affiliation with OSU, and the improvement at OSU that coincided with his arrival. I don't think he was screwed out of the position either. Sanderson's PSU has won 11 of the last 13 NCAA tournaments. The field has been successful over PSU only 15% of the time. Even the best coaches in D1 only have had a 7.5% success rate. John Smith's theoretically probability has to something less than that. Maybe 5%. Scott's probably in the single digits.

The measure of success at OSU is a national title. Scott could get it done. Taylor may too. Nothing is guaranteed even at OSU. Chesbro and Smith were great coaches and they both had 10+ year periods without winning a title whilst in Stillwater. I wasn't trying to grade Koll's UNC tenure based on a single year. You had implied that while Scott's record at UNC was good but maybe not good enough to indicate that he could be successful in a job as high profile as OSU. I think his performance compares favorably to those that have held lower profile positions either before or after success at a high profile program. Zalesky, Brands, Ryan, Koll - none of them had more success at the lower profile programs they coached than Scott. If Koll's tenure at UNC or Stanford is too short you can compare Scott's time at UNC with Koll's at Cornell and come to a similar conclusion. It is and it isn't. You say he's the 3rd best coach in the ACC. I assume you have Robie and Popolizioo ahead of him. Evaluating a coach is more difficult than a wrestler. Coaches are dealt different hands and it takes time to build a program. You put the best NCAA wrestler (Carter Starocci) at any D1 program next season and he's likely to win a title. You put the best coach (Sanderson) at any program next season and he doesn't win a title at well over half of them. The question the search committee was trying to answer is which candidate would do the most with the resources at OSU? I think the problem with looking at Robie/Popolizio's accomplishments and comparing them to Scott and saying they are better coaches is the starting point. VT isn't a traditional powerhouse, but they were a consistent top ten program when Robie took over from Dresser. Popolizio had a three year head start building the program at NC State, a process he jump started with an AA transfer from his previous post. Scott on the other hand didn't take over a top 10 program. UNC had not had a national champion, multiple AAs in a single season, or even a top 20 finish in 20 years (1995). He also didn't take over after a long period of working as a top assistant. He was the assistant in Chapel Hill for a single season before assuming the role of head coach whilst still competing. He wrestled in the Olympic trials in 2016 following his first season as head coach (2015-2016). If you compare Scott's 8 years at UNC with Popolizio's first 8 years in Raleigh or Dresser's first 8 at Tech they are pretty close.

Chael said that if WADA had authority any money spent on lawyers would be a waste. I suppose this could be interpreted multiple ways. One way would be that winning is impossible. Another would be that if you had a winnable case hiring a lawyer would not increase your chances of winning.

On FRL today CP got a text mid show that Aaron Brooks was cleared by WADA.

I suppose it is theoretically possible, but is there precedence for the NCAA vacating individual accomplishments for a failed test like this in wrestling? I don't recall them stripping Fix of anything. Maybe he just had fortunate timing as he was Olympic redshirting the year he failed a test.

Momir Petkovic is also listed on the CKWC staff. He was an Olympic champion in 1976. I wonder how involved Beloglasov and Petkovic are at 67 and 70 years old respectively. It seems likely that CKWC leads the RTCs in world titles on the coaching staff.

I didn't think USA Wrestling made any public comments on the topic except to say that they don't comment. Aaron seemed confident in his Basch interview, but I'm not sure that means much.

He did, but Zain specifically said Jordan Conaway was his training partner in an interview. "Jordan Conaway came out to be my training partner." https://youtu.be/JKyWp7sBy9Y?si=DfGhThkkhSxucpM9&t=150

I think he went with Zain as his practice partner for the World Olympic Qualifier. Not sure what else he's been up.

Looks like I was wrong. Kevin Jackson is on the staff at Michigan not the CKWC staff. 1) OSU 5 (David Taylor 1 Olympic/3 World, Thomas Gilman 1 World) 2) Iowa 4 (Tom Brands 1 Olympic/1 World, Terry Brands 2 World) 3) Michigan (Kevin Jackson 1 Olympic/2 World) 4) Morgan State 2 (Kenny Monday 1 Olympic/1 World) 5) PSU 1 (Cael Sanderson 1 Olympic) 5) ASU 1 (Larry Jones 1 World) 5) Ohio State 1 (Logan Stieber 1 World) RTC Staff Jake Varner NLWC (1 Olympic) Kendall Cross NYC RTC (1 Olympic) Brandon Slay Pennsylvania RTC (1 Olympic)