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I understand that two affiliate groups told ABC they wouldn't air the program. What you are leaving out is the threat of FCC action before that happened and the leverage the FCC has over the merger of the one affiliate group. If the affiliates made the decision without the threat there wouldn't be an issue. Making threats like that has a chilling effect on speech.

So you still haven’t figured out the connection? Yesterday the FCC chair said “We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.” Before suggesting that the affiliates take action, “Frankly I think it’s past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney, and say ’We are going to preempt — we are not going to run Kimmel anymore until you straighten this out,’” You might not have picked up what Carr was putting down, but Nexstar did. They require FCC approval for a merger and did exactly what he suggested.

I thought your position was that the FCC didn't axe Jimmy Kimmel Live! Didn't you say the affiliates and not the FCC was to blame?

Kimmel also hosts a show in Prime Time on ABC, "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" There has been no announcement cancelling that or suspending Kimmel as host.

Not necessarily. There is a certain amount of sunk cost with the current show. This was an issue with the Tonight Show back when NBC wanted to axe Conan and bring back Leno. Conan had a contract and NBC had to buy him out. It made sense to do it because contractually they would have to pay both Leno and Conan either way. The size of the buyout was smaller for Conan and Leno had better ratings. With the Late Show cancellation that coincides with the end of Colbert's contract. CBS would likely have to pay him for that time regardless of whether or not they air the show and he has the highest rated show in the timeslot. It makes sense to keep him on the air until the end of his contract. The cost to produce the show is sunk and since he has the highest ratings it will result in more advertising $$ than replacing him with an infomercial. I believe Kimmel's contract also runs through 2026. There is a good chance that his show will generate more revenue for ABC than an infomercial, so he might not be done for good just yet. The cost is sunk and if Nexstar's merger goes through there might not be a financial incentive to keep him off the air.

Whether it's suspension by ABC to appease the FCC directly or suspension by ABC to appease franchise owners who need to appease the FCC the distinction doesn't change the situation in a material way. One large franchise owner Nexstar is part of a $6 billion merger that needs regulatory approval. I don't doubt that Carr's comments were a factor is Nexstar's decision.

Whatever replaces Kimmel and Colbert will likely be cheaper to produce and thus more profitable/less unprofitable, but I doubt it reverses the ratings trend. There are just fewer TV viewers at that time of day in 2025. Fallon could get all of them and not reach his 2014 high.

TV viewership as a whole has dropped over that same time period. The graphs show that the overall late night viewership has fallen. The two shows that have recently have been recently cancelled are the highest rated in the graphic. Isn't it odd that the one with the lowest viewership remains?

Movahed has 0 world level titles on his 25th birthday and finished his career with 6. He wrestled a very similar weight to Amouzad.

I am not sure how valid all of these arguments are. Moving up I think will depend more on Amouzad as an individual than it being 65kg and 65kg wrestlers have a short peak. You say Tedeyev did it and he is an outlier, but that is the question of the thread. If Amouzad is to be considered the best ever Iranian freestyle wrestler than he to will need to be an outlier. Right now Amouzad's medal haul compares very favorably to those he is chasing. At age 23 Movahed had 0 world level medals and Yazdani had 2 golds, 1 silver, and 1 bronze. Amouzad has 2 gold, 1 silver, and can't be seen as anything but the favorite to win next year.

I think you mean 2 Jordan brothers and a cousin. I believe Bo and Micah are the progeny of Jeff whilst Isaac and Ben are the progeny of Jim. Ben is somewhat older (class of 2008), so you must be referring to Isaac, Bo, and Micah. Bo and Micah Jordan were the only top 10 recruits on either of the teams you mentioned. St. Edwards: Heil (#13 2013), Abounader (#19 2013), Martin (#29 2012), Walz (#111 2012) St Paris Graham: Bo Jordan (#1 2013), Micah Jordan (#6 2014), Isaac Jordan (#27 2012), Taylor (#35 2012), Brascetta (#41 2011), Stephens (#63 2011), Garrison (#177 2012)

Were they all on the same team? Was Steveson wrestling as an 8th grader? Steveson (#1 2018), Hall (#1 2016), Gross (#41 2014)

Weren't both DIakomihalis and Lee injured as high school seniors? If not for that maybe we would have seem them wrestle more on the senior level. I think Diakomihalis had surgery on his elbow (both elbows?) and missed his entire senior season. Lee wrestled with a torn ACL as a senior opting the delay surgery until after PIAAs. If you don't like comparing the past wrestlers to NCAA and senior level athletes because of the small sample size, perhaps the recruiting class rankings would be more appropriate. There are only recruiting class rankings for the past 20 years or so, so it's still somewhat limited. Here are the recruiting rankings for some big threes mentioned in the thread. Bishop McCort: Bassett (#1 2026), Miller (#1 2027), Forrest (#2 2026), Herring (#27 2026) 2013? St. John Bosco: Aaron Pico (#1+? 2016?), Anthony Valencia (#1 2015), Zahid Valencia (#3 2015) 2010 Blair: Villalonga (#3 2010), Evans (#4 2010), Grey (#7 2012) 2009 Blair: Villalonga (#3 2010), Ruth (#5 2009), Grey (#7 2012) 2004 Davison: Metcalf (#2 2005), Reader (#10 2006), Donahoe (#? 2004) 2010 Monroeville: Logan Stieber (#1 2010), Hunter Stieber (#7 2011), Chris Phillips (#11 2011), Cam Tessari (#31 2011) 2015 Franklin Regional: Lee (#1 2017), Kemerer (#8 2015), Shields (#13 2015), Maruca (#55 2015) 2014 Blair: Kolodzik (#6 2015), McKenna (#8 2014) Manville (#10 2016) I think the closest to have three top 2 recruits is probably St. John Bosco with Pico and the Valencias. Though Pico only wrestled at states hi freshman year (2013). Pico also wasn't on the recruiting rankings probably since he went pro in high school. He probably would have been #1 in 2016 ahead of Mark Hall. That makes 3 top 3 wrestlers on the same team. McCort has A lot of the Blair big 3s only existed for a limited time as Evans and Ruth were only there for a year and Manville transferred to Wyoming Seminary at some point too.

George. https://cornellbigred.com/sports/wrestling/roster/george-oroudjov/84480

Davis and Zaleskys had the best results in college, but I don't know how they were seen as recruits coming out of college. For the Davison trio Reader was #10 in the class of 2006. Metcalf was #2 in the class of 2005. Donahoe was was either 2003 or 2004 and I don't have ranking for that year. He had won Fargo multiple times so probably a top 10. But only 1 or two years with all of them on the same team. Another candidate would be Franklin Regional. They had a team with Spencer Lee, Michael Kemerer, Josh Shields, and Josh Maruca. Lee and Kemerer both went to Iowa where they were 4x AAs and Lee won three titles. Maruca and Shields went to ASU. Shields placed 6th and 7th then qualified as the 6 seed in 2020 before the tournament was ultimately cancelled. Maruca was a national qualifier at ASU, but never reached the podium. Spencer Lee was #2 in the class of 2017. The rest were in the class of 2015 with Kemerer #8, Shields #13, and Maruca #55. Two of the McCort big three have beaten NCAA champs whilst still in high school. Not going to find that in any other big three.

Davison had Brent Metcalf, Paul Donahoe, and Jon Reader on the same team. All would later win NCAA titles.

Which brother?

They were great, but I don’t think they ever had a placer at the D1 tournament. They won a D3 team title in 1988 or 1989. Dropped the program in 1995.

Vougar Oroudjov is the wrestling coach at NCC. His oldest son Nick wrestled at AU before transferring to Cornell. His other son Vito wrestled at Cornell. His youngest son George wrestles for Cornell.

John Clark was the head coach at St. Lawrence University. His sons Mitch and John both wrestled at Ohio State. St. Lawrence had dropped wrestling by the time John graduated high school. Mitch could have attended St. Lawrence, but St. Lawrence was only D3 and the writing was probably on the wall for the program too.

Bill Koll was retired by the time Rob Koll graduated high school, but he went to UNC and no PSU. Both of Rob Koll's sons went to Cornell.

Two sons.

Google AI has already established that is almost always the case. Yes, police union representatives are almost always current or recently retired police officers who are voted or appointed to their positions to represent their fellow officers. You are being overly pedantic in a way that doesn't change anything. You also did this when you tried to distinguish between police officers being responsible for the negative public sentiment and the police unions. If its police misconduct itself to blame for the change in public sentiment then police officers are to blame. It its underlying union corruption to blame then since they are run by police offices, police officers are to blame. If you are trying to blame the relative small number of non-police officers that work as union representatives, I think you are just wrong. I don't these individuals exist in large enough numbers for that to be the case. Evidenced by the fact that you have yet to find even a single verifiable real world example of it. But even assuming you are right police still control the union and would ultimately be responsible for the actions of its representatives. And even if you disagree with that I think we can both agree that it is unlikely that the police unions preferentially put democrats in the positions not filed by police officers, so you're initial assertion that the democrats are to blame is incorrect.

Feel free to quote where I said that.

The largest national union? The NEA is AFT are both much larger. And it isn't even a union. It's organized as a 501c8 not c5. At the top level it isn't a labor organization, but it does the kind of lobbying that many labor organizations do.