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Pendleton wrestled in the 2012 Olympic trials. He lost in the challenge tournament finals to Tommy Rowlands.

I'd have to think it's a possibility, though they have a pretty huge pool of qualified alumni to fill it. There are a handful of world level champions at RTCs. Jake Varner NLWC Kendall Cross NYC RTC Brandon Slay Pennsylvania RTC Kevin Jackson CKWC

1) OSU 5 (David Taylor 1 Olympic/3 World, Thomas Gilman 1 World) 2) Iowa 4 (Tom Brands 1 Olympic/1 World, Terry Brands 2 World) 3) Morgan State 2 (Kenny Monday 1 Olympic/1 World) 4) PSU 1 (Cael Sanderson 1 Olympic) 4) ASU 1 (Larry Jones 1 World) 4) Ohio State 1 (Logan Stieber 1 World) It looks like OSU will have the most World level titles on staff just like before Smith retired. Am I missing any world/Olympic champion head or assistant coaches?

UNC finished 3rd with a record of 3-2 in ACC duals this year under Rob Koll. Would you have the same assessment of him as a head coach? When national championship winning coaches have had the head position at smaller programs they have had good results, but results that wouldn't put them in contention for a team trophy. This is true of Brands when he was at VT, Zalesky at Oregon State, and Ryan at Hofstra. I don't think Scott's coaching record at UNC is an indication that he would not be successful at OSU. On the other hand many coaches that have produced extraordinary results at small programs like Flynn st Edinboro and Cody at AU have had difficulty duplicating those results when they have moved to bigger programs. Some have also had success like Joe Seay.

In Clash of Combat interview from April 2023 he said he graduated from Minnesota. He should talk about it around the time stamp I've linked to in the video below. I suspect he would be started graduate work if he returned to NCAA competition somewhere next year. https://youtu.be/LzUSDGeSNPw?si=hl5aWwRMhr_FKzEw&t=2734

I might ask why there was a vertical jump or 4 in those plots, but I wouldn't presuppose the answer.

Ram of the East with a new message. "Last year, not to make this too much about myself, last year when I really started getting into the truth.. when I really started picking up my cross daily doing my best to live like Christ, you know repent of my sins, turn from my ways, not love the world...follow his commandments I watched some guys on YouTube some brothers in Christ... They would always say when you really start to come to the truth you'll know because strange things will happen. Things you can't explain I think when you look at Christ's life you know strange things. People plotted against him. The Pharisees. You go read through the gospels Mark, Matthew, Luke, John. You read through the gospels it's strange what they did to the Messiah. When you really start to live like him and pick up your cross daily strange things will happen. And I'm not going to sit here and talk about my story or the things that I'm going through or went through or whatever, but weird things happen."

What exactly is the fishy part? Is it the vertical jump in the blue line just before 6:00 in Wisconsin and just after 8:00 in MI that I've circled in green? In Michigan there are similarly sized jumps in both the red and blue lines earlier in the day which I've marked with arrows. Are these fishy too?

I don't think it is ego (although that may be the case for NM1965) as much as it is logic. There are talks of Gable being unbeatable in the room, but when he actually put in on the line and attempted a comeback to make the 1976 team he lost to to a college guy - Lee Kemp. John Smith is the goat, but he lost multiple times to Reinoso who ended up losing to D2 guys when he came to America. I expect many will have similar stories about David Taylor dominating the room at OSU. Presumably near his peak he just lost to a college senior Aaron Brooks who was beaten by Marcus Coleman. Taylor when asked about Kerkvliet kind of admitted to avoiding him in the room because of his size. The idea that Gable, Smith, Sanderson, Cunningham, Taylor ect by and large get the better of nearly all their wrestlers I would 't dispute, but they get to pick their spots and they are wrestling guys they know well. In a match it would go differently sometimes. There is a reason these guys are retired and coaching instead of competing.

Daton failed an out of competition test in Jan 2020 and was suspended through Feb 2021. He didn't wrestle in NCAA competition in that time as he was Olympic redshirting in 2019-2020. I think the NCAA enforced it, but he didn't miss much time between the Olympic redshirt and 2020-2021 being an abbreviated season due to COVID. Since he didn't compete in NCAA competition between failing the test and getting the sanction there isn't really precedent as to whether they would nullify a result from Fix's situation. Stripping wins is the only thing the NCAA could do to Brooks/PSU now.

Was Zahid Valencia suspended at ASU for failing a UWW drug test??

Maybe if he got a silver it would tarnish. Gold is resistant to tarnish and oxidation.

Would Taylor getting the Olympic Spot for a suspended Brooks really put the kibosh on his pursuit of the OSU opening? John Smith and Kenny Monday were co-head coaches in 1991-92 as both were attempting to make the 1992 Olympic team. Ultimately both did make the team and the job went to Smith on a permanent bases. Taylor wrestling in the Paris Olympics would wrap up in August before the academic year even begins. By comparison it would be far less of a distraction.

That was in the qualifier (end of Feb) at 74kg. I didn't see him in the results for the championships (earlier in Feb). I am more surprised to not see him in the entries for the World Qualifier. I would have thought if he wrestled in the Pan Am qualifier he'd at least take a crack at the world qualifier.

I didn't see Palacio in the entries. Didn't he attempt to qualify at the Pan Am qualifier. Is he injured or something? He was calling out that heckler just the other day.

Who Gable or Sanderson? They both attempted to make multiple Olympic teams. Gable tried to make the team in 1968 but lost to Bobby Douglas. Douglas was the rep in 1969 and 1970. I'm unsure of Gable attempted to make those teams and was beaten out or skipped them to focus on NCAA competition. He made the team in 1971 and won worlds. He then made the Olympics in 1972 and won those. After 3+ years off he attempted to make a comeback to make the team in 1976. After losing to Lee Kemp in an early open tournament he packed it in. Cael Sanderson Wrestled at the 2000 Olympic trials where he finished 6th. He made the world teams in 2001 and 2002. In 2001 he declined to wrestle after the world championships were delayed due to 9/11/2001. In 2002 the US did not send a team due to security concerns in Iran. In 2003 he made the team again and finished 2nd. In 2004 he won the Olympics and retired. In 2011 he made a comeback winning the world team spot and placing 5th at the world championships before retiring again. I don't think it is accurate to say either competed for "one Olympic cycle."

In the 80s Iowa was the premier program and they tried to hire Gable to replace Chesbro. Doesn't seem like they even made an attempt or if they did Sanderson considered it less than Gable did. https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1984/03/23/paper-says-osu-casting-eye-at-gable/62809463007/

I think it is a sign of OSU diminished stature in the wrestling world that they went to State College to pursue Taylor and/or Cunningham. The OSU of twenty or so years ago would have taken a swing at Sanderson.

Presumably he'd have to do some amount of work to earn it, so it could be viewed as him declining to do the job for half the pay. Or if he waited until the second semester of his junior year to do the job he would get 2x the money. I think the excellent aid packages at the Ivy's had been a selling point for many student athletes. It guarantees any potential athlete an affordable education and presumably a high value one. Now if a potential athlete of modest means has an athletic scholarship offer at a non-Ivy and is weighing that against a generous aid package at Cornell that meets 100% of his need via grants it might not be as close. In the past the decision might have came down to free school at a non-Ivy school vs nearly free school at Cornell. Now that NIL earnings are a thing at the scholarship school the student athlete can keep 100% of his after tax NIL income, meanwhile at Cornell he would be sending half of the first $130-$180k or so in earnings back to the school.

I thought Princeton didn't give out loans as part of aid packages any more. That their large endowments allowed them to meet 100% of all students need up to the EFC with grants and scholarships that do not need to be repaid. I think most (possibly all?) of the Ivies have a similar system along with some other top private institutions (Duke, Northwestern, MIT, John's Hopkins). Some public schools have a similar guarantee for low income families. Vito Arujau had stated that he didn't go to heavy into NIL and merch sales before 2023 because it would have negatively changed his Cornell aid. The student's income component to the EFC is 50% after allowances (pretty much taxes). So the calculation would assume that 50% of his after tax income should be contributed to his education. If he made that money in 2022 it would go into the FAFSA calculation for the 2023-2024 school year and with Cornell tuition/fees/room/board at $90k/year, if his EFC was low he would end up paying 1/2 (after tax) of a significant amount of $$ to Cornell.

There are some Americans and/or NCAA athletes attempting to qualify for other countries in men's freestyle that have not been mentioned yet in this thread. 65kg Anthony Wesley (Cape Verde) Lachlan McNeil (Canada) 74kg Mitch Finesilver (Israel) 97kg Ben Honis (Italy) https://uww.org/article/world-paris-olympic-qualifier-2024-entry-list

Yeah it was an instagram story that disappears after some time period. He had a screenshot of a conversation with the alleged guy that was heavily redacted. This is the closest thing that's still up https://www.instagram.com/thegreentoepalacio/reel/C6FUu8vv7-9/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/thegreentoepalacio/p/C6XW6wxs4hJ/?hl=en

I dunno man in reference rio the documents case the Trump indictment is pretty damning. He lied to the feds tried to get his own lawyers to answer the subpoena telling them he didn't have any. He had Walt Nauta move boxes to documents to hide them from his lawyers. His lawyers found 30 some documents and according to Trump's lawyer's notes he still tried to convince him to not turn them over. I would think the main reason Trump was charged whilst they declined to prosecute Biden and Pence was the differing levels of corporation among the three. Biden and Pence cooperated and turn the documents over. Trump hid them and caused his attorney to file a false declaration.

If it's so easy to find spend a minute to find it and provide a link!

The lady in Iowa submitted was convicted of 23 counts of fraudulent voting. That was more than voting on behalf of her deceased mother. Where is the proof of widespread voter fraud by liberals that law enforcement declined to prosecute? Trucks full of ballots? Mailboxes stuffed? What are these two tiers to the justice system?