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What a squishy guy. It's not my job to keep my city safe from sex offenders, we do that if they are citizens, but if they are not citizens, it is the fed's duty and we won't help them catch that guy who has assaulted many women and made everyone unsafe. He's illegally here and that is in a protected class. mspart

I like the use of Pi in the title of this thread. Trying to look for something good in things that are ugly. mspart

They are slightly to the right of RV who is a self professed moderate. mspart

Assigning blame is exactly what an accident investigation does fishy. If you don't assign blame, nothing can be fixed. Blame: Military flight path running into the established flight path of commercial aircraft. Let's fix that. Blame: Helicopter was in an area they should not have been in. Let's fix that. Blame: ATC was understaffed at the time, 19 of 30 assigned showed up. Let's fix that. Blame: ATC person on this was doing both helicopter and airliner communication and direction. Let's fix that. Blame: The day before, they had a close call with a helicopter and an airliner. Let's fix that. Ancillary blame: DEI not directly to blame here but could be if a person with less than stellar qualifications causes an accident where lives and property are lost. Let's fix that and hire just the best, whoever they are. Once you start with DEI, it is suspect if you have the best and brightest and most qualified working in a capacity where human safety is the point of the job. Let's fix that. Assigning blame at the end of an investigation is the thing that is done. Did you ever watch the movie about the A320 that went into the river in NYC? They tried to blame the pilot. That's blame. That's what an investigation uncovers is the ultimate blame for the incident and then measures are taken to avoid that scenario in the future. As a result, air travel is the safest way to travel. mspart

So does yours RV. If your position had any credibility, the MSM would be all over it. They are not. You might want to just get over it before it consumes you. mspart

You have a safety incident, you look at all factors. I agree, he could have left this out, but it should be considered, perhaps in the background. I notice you agree that it should be the intent of the FAA to hire the best period by your conspicuous silence. mspart

Is it not germane to point out that the FAA was not intent on hiring the best, but to hire based on skin color, sexual persuasion, etc? The point of DEI is to hire a group so that it looks like the rest of society, not to get the best qualified. If the best qualified are darker skinned, then they should get the job. If they are from a sexual persuasion that is different than normal, they should be hired. But to hire someone that is not the best qualified does a disservice to those they are to protect. I do not think FAA or ATC was the problem here. Those experienced pilots that were not on a training flight did not obey ATC orders. Period. mspart

I'll grant you that they would have to work with Mexico and Mexico would probably put in all kinds of stipulations on rules of engagement. mspart

Keep going RV. ADL has said it wasn't an nazi salute. If it was, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WAPO, CNN, MSNBC would all be saying so wouldn't they. They aren't and that should tell you something about how moderate your views are. mspart

Training flights no longer go into commercial landing and approach airspace. Period. That is how he could do it. Quite easy. Obviously the training flight did not follow ATC directions. Keep these flights away from this airspace and that will prevent this from happening again. As to RVs comment, yes, I'm sure the first thing Trump did \or should have done was to stop all training flights and ensure they didn't do anything improper by design. You would have screamed about that and would never have known that 70 people were saved by such an action. These training profiles were put in long before Trump got there and there was no problem. But there is a problem now and I'm wagering that he will take measures that this does not happen again. Who in their right mind creates a training profile that flies directly into the flight path of incoming traffic on approach. It is a wonder there wasn't an incident before yesterday. Pick another river to fly along that has no aviation infrastructure to be a problem with. Not difficult. mspart

Showing your moderate bona fides. There is no one else saying Musk is a nazi or nazi sympathizer or holds nazi leanings. Only left wingers are doing this. mspart

This sounds like Hamas. Those people that live in Gaza are the UN's problem, not ours. mspart

Is there any doubt that Trump's admin will address this and do so with immediacy? That is taking responsibility. The training flight plans were no doubt established long before Trump was inaugurated. Yet you guys are blaming him. My guess is he will make sure military flights do not encroach on established commercial flight paths. And he will do so relatively quickly. mspart

It is interesting. There are those on here that say "He lies about everything. " And then say, "Oh no, look what he is saying he is going to do!!!!" mspart

Is Musk nazi or not RV? Please illuminate us. mspart

Then you are saying he is a nazi by inference. You can't say you haven't said if he is or is not a nazi and then say he did this on purpose. Your logic is failing here. mspart

OK, here is the deal. What the heck is a military helicopter doing flying in an approach path of a commercial airport? I've heard this was a normal training flight. My guess is that the military training flights will change routes because of this. and they never should be flying at the altitude of commercial aircraft approaching to land. The CRJ was on its glidepath to land. The military helicopter flew right into that glidepath. These are demarcated areas of space on approach to an airport. Every airport has them. That helicopter should never have been around aircraft coming in for landing, or holding to land etc. They were warned by the tower. Very sad, but hopefully these training flights will go somewhere else. mspart

Liz - Screeching like a banshee - I have to have you promise me you won't take money from pharmaceutical companies as a result of being HHS secretary...... like I have as a US Senator. mspart

So you are saying he is not a nazi but did a nazi salute and that is something to get your undies in a bunch about? Why would a non nazi do a nazi salute? Rattle that in your brain for a few minutes. His intent was obviously not to do a nazi salute since he is not a nazi, by your own admission. mspart

Did I bring context to your assertion? I think so. You're welcome. mspart

They could go into space and do the same. mspart

They gave the homeless guns and fentynyl to keep them happy. The homeless promised to only use the guns if absolutely necessary based on their mental state at the time. mspart

Here's my input on the employment thing. It is no secret that many government employees do not like Trump. They now have the option to quit with 8 months pay to get away from him. Or they could stick it out giving him the middle finger the whole time. Or they could retire with a nice exit pay bonus. I think there is no way 2million bug out. It will be interesting to see how many do bug out though. mspart

I think I understand the reasoning that Trump would use different rules of engagement. Why do you think he wouldn't? mspart

https://thehill.com/homenews/5113527-omb-federal-funding-freeze-rescind/ White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt emphasized that Trump’s executive orders halting foreign assistance, terminating DEI programs and others referenced in the OMB memo from Monday remain “in full force and effect.” Didn't rescind ALL federal aid. mspart