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In spite of the fact that it ended with the biggest upset of the tournament, 285 was the most chalk weight. The sum of absolute deviations from seed was 77, just ahead of 125 at 81.5. This also made the heavies the second most chalk weight since the 33 seed era began. Only 165 in 2019 was more chalk. At the other end of the spectrum 141 was the most busted bracket this year (but only sixth most in the 33 seed era). A lot of the "bust" came from five of nine guys seeded to go 0-2 finishing with win(s), and three higher seeded wrestlers doing the opposite.

My understanding is they pushed him out because they wanted to give Keegan O'Toole a full-time coaching job and I'm assuming to make sure he stays after graduation. With Tyrel, they used the rational that as the top assistant it was time for him to find a head coaching position... and they helped out by taking his current job. Tyrel is the salt of the earth and an outstanding coach; anyone suggesting that he did anything to deserve this is just trying to make excuses for a pretty lousy way to treat someone.

If only we could focus on the message, instead of looking to debate regarding the messenger….

IMO He’s a d1 Capable wrestler but I’m not sure he’s convinced himself of that. I watched him over the last few years go from a kid who could handle a Gavin Sax (and knew it), to the gap closing, to losing to him (seemingly confused as to how) to having to switch weights when Sax transferred to Oklahoma. Sax get better? Yep. Coaching? Maybe, but they’ve both had Kish and another coach. Mindset? Probably IMO. With what time he has left find a place that makes it fun and then let it fly.

Every program misses on some recruits. Some just don't pan out like everyone thought they would. It is the coach's job to put the best team on the mat that they possibly can. If that means dipping into portal to fill holes in the roster then they absolutely should. I don't care if it is Iowa, PSU or Ok St. These programs are not doing anything wrong. This is the game now and if you don't take advantage of the portal then you are not improving your roster. At the end of the day, results are what matters and is the difference between keeping or losing your job. A coach would be a fool not to use the portal to their advantage.

Virgin.

no i want them to stay out of womens spaces

who would have thought anti-reality would be a bad political strategy

I don't doubt either on a technical level honestly. It just has to do with size currently. Can Gibson make the cut down? He swears he can via X, but how will he look once he gets there? Smith came into RU very small. He just needs some muscle packed on.

He’s on FRL right now. Love the way he talks about the sport. Super excited to see what he can do in Black & Gold

He should head back to Montana and start a D1 program at Montana St.

LOL. It's not you, it's me.

Predictions 57kg LL 61kg Fix 65kg McKenna 70kg Yianni (pls) 74kg MM 79kg McFadden 86kg Dake 92kg Hidlay 97kg Snyder 125kg Captain America

RUTGERS - FINAL(???) UPDATE 125: Smith/Gibson (This will be the black hole weight this year) 133: Shawver 141: Olivieri 149: Clark 157: Harer 165: Barbosa 174: Pinto 184: SCW 197: Cotton 285: Catka Things look brighter than they were a month ago, but I will temper my expectations for now. Good dual team, but I have no clue who I see AAing in this crew come March. Shawver could have the fire to come back after a disappointing 2025. Catka and Pinto just need to put one good tournament together. SCW and Olivieri showed they have some fight in them. This is a team that has just as high of a chance at getting 0 AAs as they do at getting 4-5. We shall see...

Rumor has it that Kish and staff have been pulling some BS with these guys. NIL deals not followed through on, scholly's not followed through on. Wiley and McDougal both bailing because of some slimy stuff on Kish's part. Tate should go to UCO and try to AA IMO, he has not panned out. Great kid, but just not a D1 guy IMO.

I rember the Jden matches. Really close. He's fine at this weight.

It’s a high profile topic because wokesters made it one.

Indiana University 125- Jacob Moran 133- Logan Frazier 141- Henry Porter/Buttler 149- Joey Buttler/Porter 157- Bryce Lowery 165- Tyler Lillard/Gilcher 174 -Derek Gilcher/Roman Rogotzke 184- Sam Goin 197-Gabe Sollars 285- Nick Pavlechko

SEEDS ARE HERE FOR THE OPEN! 57kg 1. Luke Lilledahl 2. Daniel Deshazer 3. Liam Cronin 4. Brandon Courtney 5. Domenic Munaretto 6. Sheldon Seymour 7. Caleb Smith 8. Nico Provo 61kg 1. Marcus Blaze 2. Daton Fix 3. Nahshon Garrett 4. Seth Gross 5. Austin DeSanto 6. Jax Forrest 7. Nico Megaludis 8. Nathan Tomasello 65kg 1. Joey McKenna 2. Jesse Mendez 3. Beau Bartlett 4. Real Woods 5. Aden Valencia 6. Joshua Koderhandt 7. Carter Young 8. Vince Cornella 70kg 1. James Green 2. Yianni Diakomihalis 3. Alec Pantaleo 4. Will Lewan 5. Yahya Thomas 6. Bryce Andonian 7. Daniel Cardenas 8. Doua Zapf 74kg 1. David Carr 2. Mitchell Mesenbrink 3. Quincy Monday 4. Jarrett Jacques 5. Peyton Hall 6. Terrell Barraclough 7. Elroy Perkin 8. Ed Scott 79kg 1. Evan Wick 2. Dean Hamiti 3. Kennedy Monday 4. Danny Braunagel 5. Carson Kharchla 6. Simon Ruiz 7. Mohamed McBryde 8.Clayton Whiting 86kg 1. Kyle Dake 2. Zahid Valencia 3. Chance Marsteller 4. Parker Keckeisen 5. Rocco Welsh 6. Marcus Coleman 7. Brayden Thompson 8. Dylan Fishback 92kg 1. Trent Hidlay 2. Michael Macchiavello 3. Aeoden Sinclair 4. Eric Schultz 5. Dustin Plott 6. Cameron Caffey 7. Seth Shumate 8. Gavin Nelson 97kg 1. Kyle Snyder 2. Jonathan Aiello 3. Massoma Endene 4. Gary Traub 5. Gavin Hoffman 6. Ethan Laird 7. Christian Knop 8. Mahkyi Smith 125kg 1. Hayden Zillmer 2. Wyatt Hendrickson 3. Trent Hillger 4. Nick Feldman 5. Jordan Wood 6. Christian Lance 7. Lucas Stoddard 8. Demetrius Thomas

Gut feeling based on absolutely nothing, overly biased. 50kg Mia Polumbo 53kg Sage Mortimer 55kg Amani Jones 57kg Jacarra Winchester 59kg Alexis Janiak 62g Could see either Miracle or Nwachukwu, but leaning towards Miracle 65kg Bella Mir or Larremedy 68kg Kennedy Blades 72kg Skylar Grote, but could see Katlynn Albrecht pull it out 76kg Welker Makoyed toss-up, but I am biased towards Yelena

I noticed that too…already have the 25/26 roster page up.

Not sure if you should be canonized or seek help.

Truly, I'm trying, lol.

Maybe they told him about the move and he said just pay me for the rest of the year and let me go figure out what's next?

For very personal reasons, I sure hope not. #nerdsunite

i don't see mcfadden on the seeds https://www.themat.com/news/2025/april/22/senior-men-s-freestyle-seeds-released-for-2025-claw-u-s-open-championships

We have already seen Plott move up to 92 it looks like, wonder who else follows. Is McFadden out? he would be the 2 seed at 79kg no?

not knocking any of the other competitors ofc i'm going w/ hendrickson over zillmer cause he has momentum and has improved a ton this past year blaze's matches w/ fix & gross were both razor thin last time. 61kg's prolly the deepest weight 79kg and 92kg are both relatively weak compared w/ the other weights which is a bit concerning for usa's team title chances come worlds. i'm hoping whoever loses at 86 & 74 bumps up to challenge the gaps really hope we get to see carr vs mesenbrink at 74kg

Hate to see him go.....wish him nothing but the best.....I only have really good things to say about him!!

https://www.themat.com/news/2025/april/22/senior-men-s-freestyle-seeds-released-for-2025-claw-u-s-open-championships

mental illness we are fearful... oh wait

How do people NOT know this? It’s 2025, guys. It’s very likely that one or two of our 2024 Olympians had a USADA tester show up at their house at zero dark thirty this week to administer a wiz-quiz. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I worry about him being big enough in 2027 with the rate he is aging backwards, he could be an infant by then.

Next thing you’ll tell me is the earth is round and we landed on the moon.

Whether it’s right or not, I personally would prefer it. I do think 12 weights is a bit of an overkill and it would probably be more likely to do 9 men’s and 9 women’s weights if we are stuck on 18. It would probably be more fair to do 10 men’s and 8 women’s but I’m guessing they would rather keep it equal. Honestly I’m surprised, Greco has made it this long without an equivalent women’s sport.

Men have proven they are better women than women are. They get all the awards, they are better athletes. Yes, men are better at being weomen than women are. mspart

It doesn't happen all that often. According to RV, we shouldn't worry about this. mspart

would rather see jack at 133 and Redding at 141 - always felt he wrestled better with a little weight on him even when dresser threw him in at 149

Even if it was the plan to replace Todd, doing after Big 12s but before NCAAs would indicate something else occurred. Maybe it didn't but it seems like a logical assumption.

I think beach wrestling might be attractive to the Olympics because at appeals to younger audiences and has a format that the IOC prefers. Matches are pretty quick, which I guess works well with our modern attention spans, and the rules are easy to understand. Barriers to participation are very low for both genders, which is another plus. Don't get me wrong, I prefer freestyle any day, but it wouldn't be shocking to see beach succeed FS/Greco, or for us to get something like MFS, WFS, GR, and Women's Beach (probably less likely). I'd also like to see beach encourage more technique so it isn't just Sumo At the Shore. They also have their own weird version of criteria that's kind of weird, IIRC, and when there's a tie score at the end of the match the winner can be determined by last score, judge's decision, or whichever wrestler weighed-in the lightest(? maybe because there are only 4 weight classes?). I'm not sure what the official UWW rules are on tiebreakers or if the national federations have their own variants.

it's funny no one. in the media... did anything like they are now. I just can't figure out why? certainly no flights abroad by congressmen/women

Yep, that is what the data says!! mspart

I could see a lot of the smaller schools opting out. Schools like Edinboro would be perfect candidates to opt out, IMO.

the last time dake wrestled zahid at 79kg (2018):

I doubt it ever happens due to weight management/injury and retirements but I think that D2vD3 dual would be a great event a way to grow interest in those levels. Also a pipe dream is a 2A vs 3A PIAA state champ dual

Thompson was a shell at 174lbs. He should have never gone that weight. He was the best of the bunch (Arnold, Barr, Welsh, Rogotzke, etc) and I think we're going to see him in the mix at 197lbs this year. I don't think Merrill as the starter is a given, at this point.

They’re complaining because their slush funds are drying up.