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It wasn't about points on the backside. It was a discussion that started about 10 years ago to decide whether there would be a seperate dual tournament to decide the real team national championship. There were opposing coaches on both sides, A couple of Caels's main arguments were that ito change it it could negatively impact attendance at NCAA's and could affect smaller schools with less budget. "In 2012, when there was a strong push around the nation to have the team title determined by a tournament of duals rather than an accumulation individuals’ performance at the NCAA Championships, Sanderson publicly voiced his opposition multiple times." He provided 48 seperate points in opposition.

This can't even be fun at this point. This is asinine. And I say that with all due respect for PSU, but IF Nagao and Truax end up at PSU...it's going to year after where it's basically PSU vs the field. 125-Howard-He's an AA if that shoulder is healthy...and there's no reason he shouldn't be after finally having it surgically fixed. This is a world Gold Medalist who's still has 4 years left. 133-NC contender. Top 3, if Vito and Fix take OLR, favorites. Don't see him beating Vito, but certainly see him giving Fix a run. 141-Bartlett, he's a distance 3 behind the top 2, but not so distant he can't close the cap. Would ANYONE be shocked to see him in the in the finals? 149-Van Ness-top 3 and looked like the light finally went on. Sasso, Gomez...the Van Ness when the light turned on could win it without anyone being the least bit surprised. -Hypothetically from here 157-Messenbrink-Immediate NC contender like Haines was this year...probably a stronger NC contender. 165-Haines is a NC contender with O'Toole and Carr, but...an underdog. 174-3X NC 184-(Truax?)3X AA 3 4th place finishes. Or Lucas Cochran takes over. It won't matter. 197-3X AA HWT-Kerkvliet That's 10 AAs, 8 with legitimate chances to win it and you have, in order 4, 3, 2, 3, 4, 3, 2, 1, ?, 2 years of eligibility left. You've got Lillendal, Sealy, Ryder, Barr, the Mirasolas, Kasak, Mason Gibson, Erik Gibson(which stands to reason Melvin Miller, and then the Bassett brothers. They'll probably get Hopke. This is...absolutely ridiculous. The NCAAs will still be interested, but the team race will be decided by 149 of the quarters. PSU could legitimately put a team out, add their score up vs the highest finisher NOT Wrestling for PSU and potentially beat them. I enjoy getting to witness greatness. But this is TERRIBLE for our sport. And the last thing I expect is a PSU fan to apologize for building a program that everyone wants to go to, for building a RTC that has the funds to pay for World Champions to come and represent them. 2-3 years from now, Kerk, Starocci, Brooks are going to be gone and this team could be BETTER than they are now. Can we at least create a few co-ops? Like...Ohio State and Michigan(Get over it, it's for the greater good). Or Iowa and Iowa State? Missouri and Cornell? I really thought he'd be headed to Missou and JUUUST maybe if things broke right, they could...not push PSU, but give them a run. If he ends up at PSU....it'd actually be almost a joke.

Cam Amine

No. I used the adderall suppositories.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130126100829/https://www.caelsanderson.com/blog/no-to-national-duals/ Key points Less funded programs will lack talent to field a fully competitive team. Fans will not travel twice in a season for both a Team's Dual and an Individual Tournament. 50 programs will never make it to the team competition and have increased risk of being cut. The Individual Tournament sells out because of fan and media support for 77 programs. The Individual Tournament provides a greater sample size for proving who the best team is. National duals will not grow wrestling; non-competitive youth programs build wrestling. Teams are already reducing their scheduled events. There are other outside-the-box tactics to grow wrestling and get wrestling on TV.

I think Facundo beats Mesenbrink. That doesn't mean Facundo wins the spot, though. He wrestles very close matches. He loses matches against worse wrestlers.

The culture of over training has been passed on to the current staff. It's good to develop mental toughness but unsustainable for a full season.

Not saying this is a a better explanation (or one aligned to particular sensibilitie), but I understand Latinx is primarily about 'gender identity inclusivity.' It may also be a more general rebuke of patriarchal society--especially historically in Latin or hispanic communities. It is akin to the movement towards gender neutral pronouns (they) and (to a lesser degree) the greater use of 'she' in U.S. government publications. In the Romantic languages, certain words have been designated 'masculine,' such as 'farmers.' These words are nominally preceded by 'el' or 'los' (a 'masculine' 'the,' singular or plural). These words nominally end with the letter 'O'/'os' (or another, what is termed, 'masculine' suffix). 'Farmers' has been designated 'masculine' as 'los granjeros.' Other words have been designated 'feminine,' like 'liberty.' These words are nominally preceded by 'la' or 'las' (a 'feminine' 'the,' singular or plural). These words nominally end in the letter 'A'/'as' or another 'feminine' suffix. 'Liberty' has been designated 'feminine' as 'la libertad.' Furthermore, when both female doctors ('doctoras') and male doctors ('doctoros') are present together, grammatical rules would have the collection referred to with the 'masculine' form, even if only one male doctor is present. The gender association to words may be seen as unnecessary, arbitrary, and detrimental to a segment of the latin community. It is seen as excluding individuals who do not conform to a society's gender identity norms. It may dissuade youngsters from pursuits contrary to the language's gender association when it differs from their own. Following the grammatic rule, 'latinos' has been used to refer to a collection of Latin individuals where one male of a Latin ethnicity is present. LatinX removes gender consideration from the word. In this way, it is similar to the use of 'Xmas,' by those who celebrate seasonal Black Fridays and gift-giving absent any religious affiliation. One view is that the Latin language perpetuates a gender-bias within the Latin community. This theoretically poses an unnecessary barrier to opportunity or general acceptance/inclusivity. Advocates of terms like LatinX and proponents of elimination of the historical near exclusive use of the 'he/his/him' pronouns in publications seek to eliminate perceived barriers to radical gender identity inclusivity. Proponents of Latinx who are most directly affected by exclusion certainly aren't the political majority. One person's blame is another person's credit. The LatinX community is looking for allies not enemies. Interesting, a sociologist from Southern California popularized 'Chicano' (distinctly 'masculine' form) in the late 1960s, co-opting a prior racial slur as part of a movement The intent was to identify a distinct Mexican- American experience of the time. The term LatinX can be viewed similarly.

You forgot to mention Iowa. Every transfer conversation on the board has to include PSU, Iowa, OK State and ASU. It's a board rule. It's in section 5 of the handbook.

Zane Richards has upped his game. Keep an eye on him.

I have lots of fans, is there something wrong with that?

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Slacker

I think freshman and sophomore year versions of Carter spent more time stalling. This year he really just pounded everyone outside of one close match with Nelson Brands.

Never mind.

I wouldn't mind if you did

They can be if we're trying to use a way to compare records. How about he had a 110 match winning streak vs College competition? @jchapman Yeah...that's amazing. 3 years earlier, getting cut from Basketball and barely .500 Then gets his ass kicked by Yagla, then comes back, gets a split decision when he was the only one to score a TD. THAT close to being considered the GOAT. Yet another reason why you can't just rank Wrestlers by AA finishes. With respect to Stieber or even Yianni(and I have a LOT of respect for them)...I'll take Kemp over either on an all-time list. He was a monster. Forced Gable back into retirement at 18 years old!

And to think, I'm a fan of his too...

Tony “parallel ride” Nelson

Now you are talking like Fly.

YES...that is HUGE. I absolutely agree. We pretty much already know who's going to be the team champs next year, the year after, and likely the next 5-6 years(at least).

Well I apologize since going off the adderall. I tend to skim rather more than I should.

It’s gonna be a long hot summer.

Don’t you dare talk to him like that, he’s very precious to me

Yes it is I just added an example that I remembered clearly, sorrry to offend your delicate sensibilities.

Starocci is the biggest staller for as dominant as he is, it's ridiculous. Just like Heil, when they changed the danger zone rules, if they change the top stalling rules this offseason he will take some losses next year.

Nolf looked amazing at nationals his senior year after hurting his knee earlier in the season in a dual. The Brands/Brooks match that I am referring to was not freestyle, but was at Big 10, I think. Brooks was clearly hurt but made up a big deficit to win the match. Very impressive. The Downey loss was in freestyle the same year, I believe.

I think the funniest part is that you have that URL locked and loaded, ready to fire if every you get the chance again, and you never bothered to see if it still works. You are literally a broken record.

The wrist isn't necessary anymore. That's my point. He can just explode thru turns without having to hold anybody on their back, which I think is by far more tiring. It plays into his explosion and fast twitch muscles.

Cooper Flynn is a guy I wouldn't be surprised to see enter the portal. 125 is always a need for someone

FIFY.

Pretty soon people are going to have to respect that Michigan is going to be in the conversation for every transfer as well. They have Cliff Keen money and in wrestling they are everywhere.

I’m not disagreeing with your take , Lee Kemp is criminally underrated but to this day gene mills still rants about those Olympics and jimmy carter, seems like kemp made peace with it a long time ago, had the pleasure to meet Mills a few times , my dad and some of his teammates trained with him back in the day in NJ and I don’t think he ll ever get over missing out on that shot… Been following Kemp grandson for a few years , showed some flashes as a true Freshman for Fresno state but doesn’t seem like he’s improved much since then hopefully the light eventually turns on for him , listed as a senior but I believe he has 2 years left

I am looking forward to seeing Spencer compete. I hope that he does well.

That is definitely not true. He did NOT make a good impression on Wisconsin recruits given how many times he'd been burned and he was giving out full rides for the likes of...Howe, Rutt, Medberry, Graff...but it was definitely not an all or nothing thing. I can see where it came from. He did have quite a few Wrestlers who got full rides. Jesse Thielke, Destin McCauley...a couple other prospects in that #1 ranked class were offered full rides, but...plenty were offered partials.

Well, a women in communications strategies or something named Grace Flores-Hughes claims to have come up with the term. Though the reason reasoning; There's actually a very real history behind it...they lobbied to get "Hispanics" onto the census for years(decades). And then it was Latino. And people were happy. It was a problem that needed to be solved.

Latinx. The day I first read about it; all I could think of is that is it "incredibly stupid." I feel the same way today. Maybe there is a better explanation of what the point of the term is - but I have yet to see it. Don't blame the "white left" - you don't know that and provides nothing positive here. If you can make a sincere argument, do so. Otherwise, your comments only serve to divide us more.

I thought you were talking conditioning after the first minute!

Yeah I could definitely see Lee winning the open, but beating Gilman is a different story. I don’t see it happening but I’ve been wrong before and it will be fun to see.

suriano and glory are the only real threats IMO. I see it suriano/lee final with lee winning if he's 80% or greater healthwise Weight Name State Team 57 kg John Hernandez Kentucky 57 kg Jakob Camacho North Carolina Wolfpack Wrestling Club 57 kg Jakob Lyons Oklahoma 57 kg Nick Suriano New Jersey Sunkist Kids Wrestling Club 57 kg Serge Urakhchin Illinois Chicago Wrestling Club 57 kg Yevier Lopez Florida 57 kg Juan Diaz California North County Wrestling Club 57 kg Zane Richards Illinois Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) 57 kg Patrick Glory New Jersey New Jersey RTC 57 kg Caleb Smith North Carolina 57 kg Cooper Flynn Tennessee Southeast Regional Training Center, Inc 57 kg Benjamin Monn Pennsylvania Patriot Elite Wrestling Club 57 kg Francisco Barrera Oregon The Factory Wrestling Club 57 kg Fabian Gutierrez Tennessee Cane Nation Wrestling Club 57 kg Landen Fischer South Dakota Wolves Wrestling Club 57 kg Michael Tortorice Illinois Knights RTC 57 kg Koy Caldwell Utah 57 kg Sheldon Seymour Pennsylvania Lehigh Valley Wrestling Club 57 kg Stevo Poulin Colorado Northern Colorado Wrestling Club 57 kg Brandon Meredith Pennsylvania Jackrabbit Wrestling Club 57 kg Dalton Henderson Virginia Davis Wrestling Enterprises, LLC 57 kg Devane Dodgens Georgia Morris Fitness Wrestling Club 57 kg Eathon Rider California Shafter Youth Wrestling 57 kg Anthony Romero New York 57 kg Darrion Harris California 57 kg Spencer Lee Iowa Hawkeye Wrestling Club

I say he lashes the competition.

Gives him ten more days to decide.

Not to toot my own horn, but I really don’t think anybody can say it any better than this:

Gable will do well if he lets his ego loose. Be more like Macho Man, Ric Flair, or hate on others like Iron Sheik. Maybe have persona like Kurt Angle as a heel with cockiness and outstanding in-ring skill. Do his signature flip and talk trash on the inferior skill of his opponents. The only way Gable should lose in pro wrestling is when he is hit by a chair or a one against many scrap. Take some acting and improve classes for a year and he'd do well.

Agreed, wouldn't be shocked to see Ferrari surpass Siebrecht at 157 if Chittum gets down to 149. If not, maybe should redshirt. People are emphasizing that Chittum went up a weightclass in a recent tournament, but maybe he just doesn't want to cut weight or go on a strict diet for 7 months? I think its tbd but some people are aggressively claiming he goes 157 next year

I'm not sure what part you are disagreeing with. He dislikes both past and present Badger HCs, for different reasons, hence projecting a negative view towards the program in general that his athletes pick up on.

I disagree. He did not like Barry Davis because Barry did not believe in Askren's ability to compete at the next level. I think that he doesn't like Bono because he shady and does not have the athletes best interest in mind a lot of the time. Say what you want about Askren but he puts a huge emphasis on believing in kids and making they truly enjoy competing.

How in the world did he end up at Cal Baptist?

Get Off It!