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Jaron Smith actually wrestled in that Michigan State dual...at 184 pounds!

None of those techniques involve clasping around the torso or legs without an arm encircled.

Not to be confused with Longar Longar, the basketball player.

Bigger than the Super Bowl. JARON SMITH'S WIN ON SENIOR NIGHT GIVES TERPS 19-18 VICTORY OVER PURDUE STORY LINKS COLLEGE PARK, MD -- Maryland won its first Big Ten dual match since Jan. 10, 2016 with a dramatic 19-18 win over Purdue on Friday night at the XFINITY Pavilion. Eighth-year senior Jaron Smith clinched the win for the Terps (9-7, 1-6) with a 3-2 decision at heavyweight, sending the crowd and team into a frenzy. Maryland rallied by winning four of the final five matches. After trailing 9-0 and 15-4, the Terps made the comeback. John Martin Best won in overtime, 6-5 at 165. Then Dominic Solis captured a 5-4 decision. In his return to action after an injury, No. 17 Jaxon Smith pinned Hayden Filipovichin 2:00 to bring the Terps within 18-16, setting the stage for Jaron Smith's 3-2 victory. With nine wins, the Terps have their most wins in a season since the 2013-14 season when Maryland went 9-8. Dating to that Big Ten win in 2016, a 26-10 victory over Michigan State, Maryland had lost 63 consecutive Big Ten duals. From Coach Clemsen "The guys were down (at intermission) and I liked that because it's important to them, but I told them that dual meets are all aboiut momentum and energy. We went on runs last and we could do that again this year. We just needed one to get it started and John got it started. Dom followed it up, (Makosy) fought hard, Jaxon with the big pin---it was good. I believed in our team that we could win tonight and am very thankful that we did. " Full Results 125: No. 3 Matt Ramos dec. (10-3) No. 17 Braxton Brown (Purdue 3, Maryland 0) 133: Dustin Norris dec. (3-0) King Sandoval (Purdue 6, Maryland 0) 141: No. 13 Parker Filius dec. (8-3) Kal Miller (Purdue 9, Maryland 0) 149: No. 18 Ethen Miller major dec. (12-1) Jaden Reynolds (Purdue 9, Maryland 4) 157: No. 6 Kendall Coleman fall (2:21) Michael North (Purdue 15, Maryland 4) 165: John Martin Best TB2 (6-5) Cooper Noehre (Purdue 15, Maryland 7) 174: Dominic Solis dec. (5-4) Brody Baumann (Purdue 15, Maryland 10) 184: Ben Vanadia dec. (8-3) Kevin Makosy (Purdue 18, Maryland 10) 197: No. 17 Jaxon Smith fall (2:00) Hayden Filipovich (Purdue 18, Maryland 16) HWT: No. 25 Jaron Smith dec. (3-2) Hayden Copass (Maryland 19, Purdue 18) *Intermat Rankings Up Next The Terps will hit the road and face No. 1 Penn State on Sunday, Feb. 12 at 1 pm. The dual will air on B1G+.

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Mizzu #7 hart vs oksu #22 young @ 141 lbs. Video below. Oksu rides him from 1:47 to 1:10. 37 seconds. Now keep in mind oksu just got a 5 second stalling call for dropping to the leg in the immediate prior sequence. Imo. It’s the over “legislation” of stalling that is ruining stalling. We all know what stalling looks like. We just don’t call it. Legislating “counts” for this position vs that position I feel is hurting refs ability to call things. also keep in mind. Oksu went on to stall the remainder of the 1:10 left and somehow didn’t get called again for a total 2 minutes of nothing. Had he got hit for stalling a second time it would likely have been OT. *** I don’t have a beef with the oksu kid. Just how the legislation of stalling and refs allowing this behavior. https://youtu.be/IzZIJ2GrrHo This will be much worse at conference and ncaa tourneys as well. Still watching the dual while typing this. 149 is a stall fest too.

Really admire that kid (well maybe not a kid anymore). All kinds of injuries but he keeps at it because he loves it.

I have an alternative theory on why they are not calling top stalling. Because it is not stalling. The NCAA even issued a memo to clarify the issue.

Wow. The only Maryland wrestler or coach to experience two Big Ten wins. 8th year senior.

eighth year senior?

You’ve taint’ed this post.

It means a lot to me that you would share well-thought advice and I am grateful for it. I should replace the word retirement with financial freedom to better captain my ship. Financially, I expect to work by contact and part time as needed while other opportunities shake out. I may ramp up on distressed real estate and start a family business. My eldest currently thinks she is going to start a sports academy but also be an engineer that marries an engineer. Hey I can help with engineering and sports and business. My wife may get back to paid work after the kids graduate. I look forward to being an involved grandparent more than about anything. If my health allows, I will still play competitive baseball, coach, and may finally spend enough time to properly play the guitar. The wife says we are traveling more and she’ll have my time. Work is no longer my identity and I’ve got enough going on to transition without issue. My mom meanwhile has delayed retirement several times while her husband is out fishing and golfing with new friends. She doesn’t know what to do with herself and finds her work rewarding.

JaJenson09 recap. Cronin another dominating performance. He should be in the NCAA finals. Burwick. Got the first TD showig he can beat him. JUst needs to get off belly and not get gassed and he is All American candidate. Hardy controlled the match against a good wrestler. Should handle him easily next time. Morton Damn near put Sasso on his back early on. If he can do that top Sasso he is serious threat to qualify and score at nationals. Robb. Controlled the match and did a great roll through when he needed it. He shouldn't be touched after this wake up call. Wilson. He is back! He should be able to qualify. Labriola Great win. Was never in much jeopardy of losing in hostile environment. Pinto Not sure who he can't beat. Brooks in serious jeopardy. Allred. Just boatraces yet another guy. Should be a hell of a match with Dean in finals of Big 10. HWT. It was just strategy.

Big VT fan here and I was rooting hard for Andonian. O'Connor is class though and has Andonian's number. BA has jumped levels since they last wrestled but apparently O'Connor has too. He impressed me a ton last year with his 8th place finish. Dude is tough as nails. Now we get to see another BA vs Scott match in the ACC semis. I like O'Connor over Scott next week.

@BobDole i think this forum would benefit if there was a dislike button that if it reaches a certain number of dislikes, dumb threads like this can be removed

Maryland. Has. Finally. Won. A. B1G. Dual. H.F.S.

I guess you could say Glory is a Lame duck

Except of course Lee is great on his feet and good on bottom

Pride. He injured his pride.

It was weird. Trying to figure out what actually was injured, given how he seemingly limped off. Definitely hurt his right shoulder, though. Maybe it hurt so bad it affected his gait?

Pull my finger.

This ref needs to announce when he waves points off. Verbally calls two then visually waves it off. The wrestlers don’t know it’s been called off. Only what they hear.

You're groveling now. Stop, you're better than that.

I don't see uncovered area. I also don't see the precursor to near fall that you mentioned earlier. None of your earlier examples are really applicable as they don't involving locking hands around the entire torso/both legs so there would never be a locked hands call for those. Your later example of bear hug is applicable. If you bear hug someone from neutral where it's legal and take them straight to their back then you can keep the lock if they are in NF criteria otherwise you have reaction time to release the lock. You cannot bear hug or body lock from top and then work the guy over to NF. That's a locked hands call every time. From a TD or mat return it's a tricky play to keep the lock because it might help you hold them and get the fall/points, but if they squirm out you could give up a point. One somewhat related example to this discussion is the guillotine. This is the turning move with a leg in where the top wrestler grabs the defensive wrestlers far arm and puts it behind his back using it to turn him over. The offensive wrestler can lock his hands around the defensive wrestlers head once NF criteria is established a move that would otherwise be an illegal headlock. This would result in an illegal hold penalty and not a technical violation like we had been discussing, nevertheless there is no mention of near fall precursor or imminent possibility of near-fall in this rule. "Locked Hands — Guillotine. The offensive wrestler cannot lock hands around the head of the defensive wrestler when using the guillotine until the offensive wrestler meets a near-fall criterion." In practice there might be some margin. Where say you lock your hands before NF criteria in a way that is only legal in NF criteria (ex. bear hug or around the head w/guillotine) and turn the guy real fast. The referee might not notice or call it. Then again they might notice, stop action, and award a point. The neutral danger rule 4.2.3 doesn't add anything in the way of modifying locking hands from my reading.

Your perspective is exactly correct.

I was looking at the rule yesterday too and it definitely leaves a lot of area uncovered. Since you don’t lock your hands once you get to near fall. You lock the move then turn the opponent over typically. So there has to be some kind of referee intermediate interpretation of, is this approaching near fall or imminent possibility of near-fall. Right? [With the danger rule added it makes me think if you’re giving up a take down due to back exposure danger, that should be threat of near-fall if you remain in the situation or go between 45° and 90°.]

my retirement plan is still just slipping over a border and disappearing into the jungle at some point... that is only half joking...

i was on the 7 year degree plan myself... the struggle is real...

Where does RBY rank with a third title? Also where does he rank all time as far as PSU wrestlers?

I typed the same and deleted. Just don't have the same energy as an, 'eighth year senior' I suppose.

Jaron Smith v Myles Martin was the most anticipated matchup at the 2014-15 Maryland All-Star Tri-Meet It has been quite some time for and old fart like myself but I think Martin won by tech fall.

chelonaphobia

I thought it just had to be a pinning situation or something, not necessarily meeting NF criteria, but could be wrong

Definitely feels like he’s getting slept on. Robb wrestles close matches, tough rope to walk to a title, but can be done.

When that third period hits

Kareem has an article that's well worth reading about Lebron breaking his record. https://kareem.substack.com/p/what-i-think-about-lebron-breaking?mibextid=q5o4bk&fbclid=IwAR1myW2Ep1AC6a-ECR1srtfUe4av0KcJa0QnS_xNEzzlCeO9eG7wTkVGMD8 I mention it here because Kareem includes a long quotation from the wrestling movie, "Vision Quest." The irony is, the quotation is about another GOAT, but from soccer, not wrestling (or basketball). Here it is: For me, the inspirational power of sports is best explained in a scene in the 1985 film Vision Quest. In it, Elmo, an aging fry cook at a hotel, explains: That is the magic of sports. To see something seemingly impossi­ble, reminding us that if one person can do it, then we all somehow share in that achievement.

That is the magic of sports. To see something seemingly impossi­ble, reminding us that if one person can do it, then we all somehow share in that achievement. I'm getting more sentimental with each passing year, but I almost shed a tear just from hearing that monologue again. Time to rewatch the film

Huh? Why bring WKN into a Cinnabon prediction thread...Rutgers is the Favorite to beat PSU

Henry MF Porter!!!

This could be considered redundant

He did say no one would remember what RBY did in ten years. Maybe he was just talking about himself.

didn't aiden valencia drop an AA at an open this year? chittum won an open as a legitimate cadet age kid... we could talk about how many 17 year old high school kids beat college guys at U20 trials every year... the pointy end of high school is considerably better than the average college wrestler...

Its impressive but we should relax a bit. Its a tournament geared toward redshirts and non-starters. All the guys he wrestled were freshmen who don't start. Remember, earlier this year he wrestled in another college tournament where he got a couple similar wins over non-starters, but then ran in to a ranked kid from Purdue. He got teched. And he does have a high school loss this year (to Lilledahl, which he avenged). At the same time, I don't want to undersell him either. Its very rare for a freshman to be able to compete against D1 college guys. The guys he beat, despite being freshmen redshirts/non-starters, were themselves studs in high school. He's good enough to start for many D1 schools right NOW, even though I highly doubt he'd be ranked. And I love that he is willing to challenge himself like this. Best ever? That's a high bar. He doesn't have any college wins at the level of Kolat's high finishes at Midlands as a sophomore and junior. But Jax is still a freshman, and if he keeps improving... you never know.

old school/old forum

Max Dean and Andre Agassi.

Kollin is my pick.