Anyone hear something crazy recently?

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, alex1fly said:

There has to be a punchline in here about Jesus wanting him to wrestle doggystyle. Or maybe Jesus said folkstyle and he misheard it as f*ckstyle. Is anyone here good with jokes?

There are some early memes on the minnow page I don’t care to post here.  

[HokieDave87]

6 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Yeah seems odd when the article basically just talks about a pretty straight forward act of hiring a prostitute 

I don't think he was involved in some crazy trafficking ring but at the same time he wasn't born yesterday. Trafficking and prostitution go hand in hand, not many girls are out there doing it as a casual side hustle for the love of the game. Common sense tells you that you're supporting something morally egregious behind the scenes. 

[bnwtwg]

40 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Ah man, you broke character.  Get back on the horse and fire off those zingers

[BAC]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Why ?   No idea what he’s like.  He said 79% of prostitutes  have some sort of tie to trafficking.   I just made the 83% joke is all.  

A lot of misleading statistics get thrown around in this field, and that's one of them.  The 79% refers to the percentage of escorts come from out-of-state/country to get to where they're working, and are working with someone (booker/agency).  That's pretty normal, as escorts working out-of-town typically will want to connect with someone who can help her line up hotels and screen clients.  But puritanical zealots call it "trafficking" since the woman's working with someone.  It's so stupid, so insulting.

What we should worry about are escorts who are underage, mentally ill, or doing the work forcibly. It's a problem, but a very small percentage.  Most are just financially needy women who want to make a buck and be left alone. 

We have all these puritanical zealots and supposed feminists who claim they want to help, but all they are doing is making it harder for a low-income woman to put food on her and her kid's table, and also making it harder to find the women who are actual abuse victims since politicians won't permit decriminalization and registration.

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, BAC said:

A lot of misleading statistics get thrown around in this field, and that's one of them.  The 79% refers to the percentage of escorts come from out-of-state/country to get to where they're working, and are working with someone (booker/agency).  That's pretty normal, as escorts working out-of-town typically will want to connect with someone who can help her line up hotels and screen clients.  But puritanical zealots call it "trafficking" since the woman's working with someone.  It's so stupid, so insulting.

What we should worry about are escorts who are underage, mentally ill, or doing the work forcibly. It's a problem, but a very small percentage.  Most are just financially needy women who want to make a buck and be left alone. 

We have all these puritanical zealots and supposed feminists who claim they want to help, but all they are doing is making it harder for a low-income woman to put food on her and her kid's table, and also making it harder to find the women who are actual abuse victims since politicians won't permit decriminalization and registration.

You also forgot to mention those addicted to drugs.  On both the buying and selling side. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Caveira

[ckwrestler]

1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I almost want to poll how important the fact that he is married is to people in this context, for me it makes it takes it from a 2 to a 6 on the bad person scale.

take it from a 6 to a 10 when you consider that most sex trade workers in the US are forced in to it and are trafficked, and he went in to the encounter likely being aware of this fact.

Also curious where BAC got the "very small percentage" from, or how it's possible to minimize the crime of trafficking?  https://deliverfund.org/blog/facts-about-human-trafficking-in-united-states/ 

Edited 7 hours ago by ckwrestler
was going to add another post, but decided to combine

[BAC]

42 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

Because it is illegal and there is absolutely a chance that if this wasn't a sting, that Kyle Snyder would have been soliciting prostitution from someone that was trafficked into the industry. He is participating in what is currently a very toxic exchange that often involves a party that is only "willing" due to fear of the repercussions if they don't. 

I get what you're saying. If two consenting adults want to have sex with a monetary exchange, that should be legal.

However, soliciting a black market service that relies heavily on human trafficking to provide sex workers? Yes, I absolutely have a problem with that.

He shouldn't be excused because there should be a better system in place. He participated in what is currently a very dark and sad industry.

And that's only what I think of him and the crime.. the fact that he would do this while having a wife and two kids at home is where it becomes a real scumbag act.

Look, that's just not true.  First off, just because a woman traveled from out of state and is working with a booker (and is therefore "trafficking") doesn't mean she isn't a fully consenting adult.  People throw that word around, but honestly, who cares what state the woman came from?  All that matters is if she is capable of consent, i.e. isn't forced, underage, or mentally ill, and that's a very small percent. 

What's more, studies have shown that virtually all such women are working the street, as opposed to having some online ad where someone can text, as Snyder allegedly did. That's because federal laws like FOSTA and SESTA (and the resulting death of backpage/craigslist) have made online providers unwilling to host anyone who doesn't cough up a drivers license and other identifying information.    

Now, if Snyder was responding to an ad of some kid who looks 15, or was doing some sort of back-alley transaction and not even seeing the person, I'd say he's at high risk of engaging with someone who is underage.  But again, if that were true, the cops would have dinged him for it.  Since he apparently just texted a girl he saw in an online ad, the odds of it being anyone other than a consulting adult (or a cop, LOL) are vanishingly small.

 

[Lleynor]

Man, he made himself out to be one of the good guys…

This is awful. Wonder if NLWC lets him walk? I give zero $hit$ for anyone that does this to their family. He could contract and give something to his wife. And he obviously doesn’t care. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

4 hours ago, feet2back said:

At least He wasn't trying to meet some dude! Feel bad for wife and Family

Not that it matters, but where does it say who he was meeting?

[Caveira]

12 minutes ago, BAC said:

some kid who looks 15

Rumor has it.   It was a profile pic of the youngest Jenner.   Not saying rumor is true although I did read it.   I can confirm it was not Caitlyn Jenner.  I think the rumor said to was Kendall or Kylie.   Weird the police are that unimaginative.   Or that average Johns don't watch  the kardashians lol 

[ionel]

What does these have to do with wrestling much less college wrestling?  Why isn't it in NWT or at least International?  Where are @BobDole and @Husker_Du ... are they on early summer holiday?  

[bnwtwg]

40 minutes ago, alex1fly said:

There has to be a punchline in here about Jesus wanting him to wrestle doggystyle. Or maybe Jesus said folkstyle and he misheard it as f*ckstyle. Is anyone here good with jokes?

He really rawdogged the whole situation and now he has a bump where it hurts the most that he will be reminded of forever. Even when he's 80 years old it will pop up out of nowhere and remind him of his transgressions. And he will have to share this with all future partners before anything gets too serious

[BruceyB]

17 minutes ago, BAC said:

Look, that's just not true.  First off, just because a woman traveled from out of state and is working with a booker (and is therefore "trafficking") doesn't mean she isn't a fully consenting adult.  People throw that word around, but honestly, who cares what state the woman came from?  All that matters is if she is capable of consent, i.e. isn't forced, underage, or mentally ill, and that's a very small percent. 

What's more, studies have shown that virtually all such women are working the street, as opposed to having some online ad where someone can text, as Snyder allegedly did. That's because federal laws like FOSTA and SESTA (and the resulting death of backpage/craigslist) have made online providers unwilling to host anyone who doesn't cough up a drivers license and other identifying information.    

Now, if Snyder was responding to an ad of some kid who looks 15, or was doing some sort of back-alley transaction and not even seeing the person, I'd say he's at high risk of engaging with someone who is underage.  But again, if that were true, the cops would have dinged him for it.  Since he apparently just texted a girl he saw in an online ad, the odds of it being anyone other than a consulting adult (or a cop, LOL) are vanishingly small.

 

We can agree to disagree. I have a darker view of how many women end up in this industry in the first place. And that is the root of our disagreement.

[BruceyB]

7 minutes ago, ionel said:

What does these have to do with wrestling much less college wrestling?  Why isn't it in NWT or at least International?  Where are @BobDole and @Husker_Du ... are they on early summer holiday?  

I'll give you that it should be in international, but it is very much a wrestling topic.

[BuckyBadger]

Is it part of Gods plan that he did this? What if it was with a man, is that part of gods plan? 

If so, where does free will and personal accountability come in?

This will end up getting framed as I transgressed and I’m getting back on the right path. All part of gods plan.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by BuckyBadger

[happyvalet]

51 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

I don't think he was involved in some crazy trafficking ring but at the same time he wasn't born yesterday. Trafficking and prostitution go hand in hand, not many girls are out there doing it as a casual side hustle for the love of the game. Common sense tells you that you're supporting something morally egregious behind the scenes. 

really? what percentage of sex workers are being trafficked?

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, happyvalet said:

really? what percentage of sex workers are being trafficked?

Read one study that claims 73% do it for drug money. 

[alex1fly]

5 minutes ago, BuckyBadger said:

Is it part of Gods plan that he did this? What if it was with a man, is that part of gods plan? 

If so, where does free will and personal accountability come in?

This will end up getting framed as I transgressed and I’m getting back on the right path. All part of gods plan.

 

“I did some thinking and want to say that I’m starting my own ethical sex ring”

[nhs67]

2 hours ago, Winners Circle said:

You aren't married are ya? 

He's clearly 12.  So no.  Not married.

^clearly a joke... don't get upset

@happyvalet - every clown emoji you do makes you look more the part of a fckn idiot than you actually are.  Please stop trying to be 'more' right.

Edited 7 hours ago by nhs67

[HokieDave87]

5 minutes ago, happyvalet said:

really? what percentage of sex workers are being trafficked?

I'm not an industry expert so I don't have statistics but I have a brain so I realize that illegal sex work isn't an industry that draws a ton of sound minded consenting individuals

[bnwtwg]

6 minutes ago, alex1fly said:

“I did some thinking and want to say that I’m starting my own ethical sex ring”

My HOA has one of these! Every month we get together for a lil shindig we like to call a "key party" 10/10 would recommend although the buffet spread gets a little messy after the first hour

[Tripnsweep]

16 minutes ago, BuckyBadger said:

Is it part of Gods plan that he did this? What if it was with a man, is that part of gods plan? 

If so, where does free will and personal accountability come in?

This will end up getting framed as I transgressed and I’m getting back on the right path. All part of gods plan.

 

Nobody said it was a woman involved. That just adds to the intrigue. 

[1032004]

18 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

I'll give you that it should be in international, but it is very much a wrestling topic.

He’s (was?) the Bible study leader for a lot of the college team, I think it can stay here.

PSU forum locked their thread where it was being discussed of course, not before a couple folks implied Sammy Sasso was up to no good before getting shot.

[happyvalet]

5 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

He's clearly 12.  So no.  Not married.

^clearly a joke... don't get upset

@happyvalet - every clown emoji you do makes you look more the part of a fckn idiot than you actually are.  Please stop trying to be 'more' right.

you made zero points, only insults. who's the idiot?

[nhs67]

Just now, happyvalet said:

you made zero points, only insults. who's the idiot?

Are you asking for my opinion, or should we do a poll?

The answer will be you either way.