Hawkeyes vs Cowboys thread

[1032004]

12 hours ago, Gus said:

No Ferarri listed....

I didn’t realize that other than the 4 transfers OSU got this offseason, the rest of their starting lineup (including 2 prior transfers) is from Oklahoma.

Edited Wednesday at 10:31 AM by 1032004

[H82Lose]

15 hours ago, ionel said:

That is shocking.  Did he stall himself to death last match? 

I do not believe he was listed for the PSU dual either, just sayn. 

[H82Lose]

20 hours ago, charmon55 said:

125: Spratley dec. Cruz 3-0

133: Ayala dec. Witcraft 3-3

141: Jamison dec. Schriever 6-3

149: Parco dec. Young 6-6

157: Fish dec. Teemer 9-6

165: Caliendo dec. Amine 9-9

174: Hamiti dec. Kennedy 12-9

184: Plott dec. Ferrari 15-9

197: Buchanan dec. Surber 15-12

285: Hendrickson fall. Keuter 21-12

I will take that 184 match if it happens. Give me Ferrari +3 for a $100? 

[GimJustafan]

18 hours ago, PSULou64 said:

I'm not great at predictions and trying to go through the whole line up would probably just be bad but part of me thinks that Caliendo majors Amine.  I think the constant attack rate poses a bonus point scenario there. Am I the only one who thinks that?

i could see that happening as well 

[ionel]

1 hour ago, H82Lose said:

I do not believe he was listed for the PSU dual either, just sayn. 

I thought he was, recall seeing the or, someone on here can probably find the roster sheet posted on here. 

[ionel]

1 hour ago, H82Lose said:

I do not believe he was listed for the PSU dual either, just sayn. 

Of course they could still change the roster before Sunday. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:43 PM by ionel

[VakAttack]

4 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I didn’t realize that other than the 4 transfers OSU got this offseason, the rest of their starting lineup (including 2 prior transfers) is from Oklahoma.

I think at least Spratley and Jamison transferred to Oklahoma during high school.

[VakAttack]

The odds of Caliendo bonusing Amine is very low.  Amine isn't an offensive dynamo, but he is very good at holding others offense at bay.

[ionel]

1 minute ago, VakAttack said:

I think at least Spratley and Jamison transferred to Oklahoma during high school.

Is anything wrong with that?  

[1032004]

4 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

I think at least Spratley and Jamison transferred to Oklahoma during high school.

That’s interesting considering they didn’t even go to OSU out of HS

[Gene Mills Fan]

6 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

The odds of Caliendo bonusing Amine is very low.  Amine isn't an offensive dynamo, but he is very good at holding others offense at bay.

the Amine strategy: I have to defend 0 reattacks if I don't attack.  

[ionel]

9 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

I think at least Spratley and Jamison transferred to Oklahoma during high school.

Spratley - High School: Graduated from Plano West High School alongside current teammate Tagen Jamison … Wrestled outside of high school competition with the Texas Pride for his final two years … Claimed an Oklahoma state title at 120 pounds as a sophomore while at Collinsville High School … Won a Pennsylvania prep state title as a freshman … Champion of the 2022 U.S. Open at 57 kilograms … Was a finalist at the Junior World Team Trials in 2022

 
Jamison- School: Attended Durant High School before transferring to Plano West, where he competed for three seasons and graduated in 2021 … Was a UIL Texas state champion at 132 pounds as a sophomore and senior … Finalist in all four years of his high school career, including as a true freshman for Durant at 126 pounds … Completed high school with a career prep record of 124-4 … Freestyle Fargo national champion at 138 pounds in 2021 … Captured back-to-back USAW Preseason national championships in 2018 and 2019 … Earned All-America honors with a third-place finish at the 2022 U.S. Open … Was a two-time All-American at the U20 United States World Team Trials.

[poke1]

11 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

I think at least Spratley and Jamison transferred to Oklahoma during high school.

Just the opposite, Spratley grew up in Eufala, OK and moved to Plano, TX his later years of high school.  Jamison grew up in Durant, OK and moved to Plano, TX in his later years of high school.  So I would say they are both true Oklahomans!

[VakAttack]

18 minutes ago, ionel said:

Is anything wrong with that?  

Not at all.  And as @poke1 pointed out, I appear to have remembered it backward.

[WildTurk]

I'm really looking forward to this dual! Glad to see both teams full of talent now.  Should be quite entertaining! 

[Offthemat]

I’m on the Surber bandwagon.  To me, Surber looked more dominant over Stephen Little than Buchanon, and Buchanon had a slim victory over Salazar, who Plott majored at NCAAs last year.  

[nhs67]

3 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

I’m on the Surber bandwagon.  To me, Surber looked more dominant over Stephen Little than Buchanon, and Buchanon had a slim victory over Salazar, who Plott majored at NCAAs last year.  

Surber's 5-4 Decision victory looked more dominant than Buchanan's 14-3 Major Decision victory?

[Offthemat]

5 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Surber's 5-4 Decision victory looked more dominant than Buchanan's 14-3 Major Decision victory?

No, I’m confusing Buchanon with Barr.   When I look at the results between Buchanon, Barr, Little, Salazar, and Surber, Surber looks as strong as Buchanon.  

[okokzach]

31 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Surber's 5-4 Decision victory looked more dominant than Buchanan's 14-3 Major Decision victory?

Clearly he meant to compare their wins over Trey Munoz

Edited Wednesday at 04:50 PM by okokzach

[CHROMEBIRD]

3 hours ago, VakAttack said:

The odds of Caliendo bonusing Amine is very low.  Amine isn't an offensive dynamo, but he is very good at holding others offense at bay.

Agree with all of this, though we saw MM absolutely break Amine last season with his pace. Caliendo knows this, and if anyone else at the weight is capable of pushing tempo against Amine, it's him. 

[Dogbone]

4 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Agree with all of this, though we saw MM absolutely break Amine last season with his pace. Caliendo knows this, and if anyone else at the weight is capable of pushing tempo against Amine, it's him. 

MM only won by major in that match in the dual and did not break him at the NCAA's "only" beating Amine 6-1.  The dual loss was the only match Amine has lost by bonus in his career. 

Caliendo has been very impressive this year outside of the MM match, but the chances to bonus Amine still seem very low. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

25 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

MM only won by major in that match in the dual and did not break him at the NCAA's "only" beating Amine 6-1.  The dual loss was the only match Amine has lost by bonus in his career. 

Caliendo has been very impressive this year outside of the MM match, but the chances to bonus Amine still seem very low. 

IIRC, MM had a last second takedown that was waved off and would've been a major. Anyway, Amine won't be able to wrestle at CHA like he did against MM at Nationals without getting stalled out. It like he was trying to avoid being blown out than actually win the match. 

I picked Cal over Amine by dec a couple of pages ago; just saying that if anyone has a chance of bonusing Amine, he's the guy.

[666]

On 2/19/2025 at 7:44 AM, ionel said:

Is anything wrong with that?  

Yes. It shows their parents were insane to move to Oklahoma and insanity may run in the family. 

[Winners Circle]

125: Spratley dec Cruz 3-0

133: Ayala mdec Witcraft 4-3 

141: Jamison dec Schreiver 6-4 

149: Parco mdec Young 8-6 

157: Teemer dec Fish 11-6 

165: Caliendo dec Amine 14-6  (The walls are closing in on the )

174: Hamiti mdec Kennedy 14-10 

184: Plott mdec Arnold 14-14

197: Buch mdec Surber 18-14 

285: Hendrickson fall over Keuter 20-18 

 

I could see:

• Caliendo getting a major, but off the top of my head I really only remember MM scoring bonus on Amine (I could be wrong about that). 
• Hamiti getting only a decision, but I think Kennedy goes after him and leaves himself vulnerable to points being put on the board. I actually think Nelson would be a safer bet for the  to hold it to a decision. 
• Plott getting only a decision, but I went off what we have seen this season. Stock down on Gabe and Plott bonuses just about everyone not named Keckeisen (and Starr but they haven't wrestled).
• Buch getting only a decision, but again I went off what I've seen this season. Stock way up on Buch in my eyes. 
• Hendrickson getting only a tech or major, but same as the previous two weights. Stock way up on Hendrickson in my eyes. 

So yes, I think the   have a path to victory. I don't think they even need to wrestle a "perfect" dual. But I see the  having multiple paths to victory. I will be in attendance and will be my first CHA experience. Very excited. 

[fishbane]

20 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

IIRC, MM had a last second takedown that was waved off and would've been a major. Anyway, Amine won't be able to wrestle at CHA like he did against MM at Nationals without getting stalled out. It like he was trying to avoid being blown out than actually win the match. 

I picked Cal over Amine by dec a couple of pages ago; just saying that if anyone has a chance of bonusing Amine, he's the guy.

I mean it's not impossible that Caliendo gets the major, but I think it's more likely that Amine wins than Caliendo scores bonus.  In 6 years of NCAA competition Amine has conceded a single bonus point.