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Question, how hot should the seats in Iowa be?

 

they have brought in some great established transfers, but other than Lee who have they help develop in house.

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  On 1/19/2025 at 6:20 PM, Greenwave said:

Question, how hot should the seats in Iowa be?

 

they have brought in some great established transfers, but other than Lee who have they help develop in house.

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  On 1/19/2025 at 6:20 PM, Greenwave said:

Question, how hot should the seats in Iowa be?

 

they have brought in some great established transfers, but other than Lee who have they help develop in house.

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Go back a few weeks and find the thread where you can read everyone's thoughts on this.

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The real question is, who are they going to bring in from the transfer portal to replace the one and done wrestlers brought in this year? The replacements don't seem to be coming from recruiting. Who do they have their eye on? 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 7:34 PM, Maxwell Smart said:

The real question is, who are they going to bring in from the transfer portal to replace the one and done wrestlers brought in this year? The replacements don't seem to be coming from recruiting. Who do they have their eye on? 

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Messenbrink kerk and nagao 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 7:34 PM, Maxwell Smart said:

The real question is, who are they going to bring in from the transfer portal to replace the one and done wrestlers brought in this year? The replacements don't seem to be coming from recruiting. Who do they have their eye on? 

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Figueroa and Elam have been rumored

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  On 1/19/2025 at 9:57 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

Iowa is the only program that gets meaningfully compared to Penn State. 

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It's been a few years since this was true. They were outscored by over 100 points while placing 5th last year, and weren't within 50 points the two years prior. This isn't necessarily a knock on Iowa. No one can be meaningfully compared to Penn State. 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 9:11 PM, flyingcement said:

DeSanto improved a lot with them I thought 

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He beat Soencer Lee in h.s. and beat Roman Bravo Young a couple few times at Iowa before then losing 6 straight vs  that same wrestler.

He went from having a move RBY could not stop to then being completely unable to finish his shot on him. 

I don't think he got worse as a wrestler, but his relative results to RBY sure got worse. 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 10:12 PM, BruceyB said:

It's been a few years since this was true. They were outscored by over 100 points while placing 5th last year, and weren't within 50 points the two years prior. This isn't necessarily a knock on Iowa. No one can be meaningfully compared to Penn State. 

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I think they lost how many guys to suspension. I think they could have had Brands a Cassiopa 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 10:23 PM, Pinnacle said:

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He beat Soencer Lee in h.s. and beat Roman Bravo Young a couple few times at Iowa before then losing 6 straight vs  that same wrestler.

He went from having a move RBY could not stop to then being completely unable to finish his shot on him. 

I don't think he got worse as a wrestler, but his relative results to RBY sure got worse. 

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He barely beat Spencer Lee with a blown ACL in high school, and he had a couple wins during RBY's true freshman year. Desanto without a doubt improved during his time at Iowa, just not enough to beat Fix or RBY.

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  On 1/19/2025 at 10:12 PM, BruceyB said:

It's been a few years since this was true. They were outscored by over 100 points while placing 5th last year, and weren't within 50 points the two years prior. This isn't necessarily a knock on Iowa. No one can be meaningfully compared to Penn State. 

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You don't understand what I mean. When they say "develop talent" the implication is "compared to penn state." 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 10:37 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

You don't understand what I mean. When they say "develop talent" the implication is "compared to penn state." 

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add the Penn State recruit rankings top 5, then compare to the others. The total for the 5 is far less then Iowa and anyone else  I would guess

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  On 1/19/2025 at 10:31 PM, BruceyB said:

He barely beat Spencer Lee with a blown ACL in high school, and he had a couple wins during RBY's true freshman year. Desanto without a doubt improved during his time at Iowa, just not enough to beat Fix or RBY.

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That win over Lee in h.s. was something no other h.s. wrestler was able to accomplish, so pretty good. Again, not saying he got worse just that its hard to laud "improvement" based on coaches "developing" his talents when he went from consistently beating a guy to consistently losing to that same guy in exactly the same manner each and every time. Just where was the development from his coaches there? 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 10:56 PM, Pinnacle said:

That win over Lee in h.s. was something no other h.s. wrestler was able to accomplish, so pretty good. Again, not saying he got worse just that its hard to laud "improvement" based on coaches "developing" his talents when he went from consistently beating a guy to consistently losing to that same guy in exactly the same manner each and every time. Just where was the development from his coaches there? 

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People seem to forget Desanto was ranked number 2 in the country behind Lee before the upset, so again he was already pretty damn good.

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  On 1/19/2025 at 10:56 PM, Pinnacle said:

That win over Lee in h.s. was something no other h.s. wrestler was able to accomplish, so pretty good. Again, not saying he got worse just that its hard to laud "improvement" based on coaches "developing" his talents when he went from consistently beating a guy to consistently losing to that same guy in exactly the same manner each and every time. Just where was the development from his coaches there? 

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I kind of agree (but I don't because you are talking about a high school match against someone on one leg, and he didn't place at drexel), but in the same breadth are you willing to admit that the Desanto who graduated was a way better citizen than the one who showed up? Developing him as a person is part of coaching, and despite the fact that he did cringy stuff at Iowa too, it definitely became less and less of a factor. 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 11:10 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

I kind of agree (but I don't because you are talking about a high school match against someone on one leg, and he didn't place at drexel), but in the same breadth are you willing to admit that the Desanto who graduated was a way better citizen than the one who showed up? Developing him as a person is part of coaching, and despite the fact that he did cringy stuff at Iowa too, it definitely became less and less of a factor. 

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Sure 

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  On 1/19/2025 at 11:10 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

I kind of agree (but I don't because you are talking about a high school match against someone on one leg, and he didn't place at drexel), but in the same breadth are you willing to admit that the Desanto who graduated was a way better citizen than the one who showed up? Developing him as a person is part of coaching, and despite the fact that he did cringy stuff at Iowa too, it definitely became less and less of a factor. 

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I remember the general fan base loving Desanto's antics until EIWA's where he tried to injured Tucker..

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