Pish Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Matthews, Yianni, Lewan, Dean, Schultz. Who’s next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Pish said: Matthews, Yianni, Lewan, Dean, Schultz. Who’s next? Well if Lee doesn't wrestle he may temporarily lose his #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 When I read the topic I thought you were exaggerating, but holy crap, its true. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, ionel said: Well if Lee doesn't wrestle he may temporarily lose his #1. Could be..usually they'll pull people out of rankings if they haven't wrestled come beginning of Jan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 O'Toole also survived a very close match against West Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, SocraTease said: O'Toole also survived a very close match against West Virginia. But, "survive" he did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Matthews is still undefeated on the season. Exhibition matches don't count towards his record. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Matthews is still undefeated on the season. Exhibition matches don't count towards his record. Tell that to mark hall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Tell that to mark hall not this again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: Matthews is still undefeated on the season. Exhibition matches don't count towards his record. Talking about rankings..he’s no longer #1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 42 minutes ago, Pish said: Talking about rankings..he’s no longer #1 Yea but when march rolled around both guys were undefeated and hall was returning national champ and Zahid got the 1 seed bc of that “ exhibition match” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Yea but when march rolled around both guys were undefeated and hall was returning national champ and Zahid got the 1 seed bc of that “ exhibition match” Yeah and? Agree with you. They’ll count the losses at the All-star matches for coaches rank Hall/Zahid set the precedence. Edited December 4, 2022 by Pish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Pish said: Talking about rankings..he’s no longer #1 You are using Flo, which factored in the exhibition matches. Intermat, which did not - and was used for seeding purposes of Cliff Keen - has Matthews at #1 (still): https://intermatwrestle.com/rankings/college/141? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Pish said: Talking about rankings..he’s no longer #1 42 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Yea but when march rolled around both guys were undefeated and hall was returning national champ and Zahid got the 1 seed bc of that “ exhibition match” seeds are not the same as rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: You are using Flo, which factored in the exhibition matches. Intermat, which did not - and was used for seeding purposes of Cliff Keen - has Matthews at #1 (still): https://intermatwrestle.com/rankings/college/141? Sure but if Alairez and Mathews are the two remaining guys undefeated at the weight. Who do you think will be 1 seed at NCAAs? Secondly, what’s your issue? I made a simple post saying half the guys that were pre-season #1 have gone down. What’s your argument? Mathews lost..we all saw it and coaches will take into account when coaches rank comes out. You didn’t get the jist of my post or you just replying to get me to explain a simple post? Edited December 4, 2022 by Pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, ionel said: seeds are not the same as rankings No shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pish said: No shit Hey ... talk to @PortaJohn about that, not my area of expertise. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBluegill133 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I just commented on this weight on another thread but I think there is going to be a new #1 almost every week at 157 this year. "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Pish said: Sure but if Alairez and Mathews are the two remaining guys undefeated at the weight. Who do you think will be 1 seed at NCAAs? It all depends on style points. My opinion doesn't, matter though. This was a matter of factual statement: In NCAA competition this season Matthews is still undefeated. 9 hours ago, Pish said: Secondly, what’s your issue? I made a simple post saying half the guys that were pre-season #1 have gone down. What’s your argument? Mathews lost..we all saw it and coaches will take into account when coaches rank comes out. You didn’t get the jist of my post or you just replying to get me to explain a simple post? See above. Unless you mean in all of wrestling. If that is the case, then Yianni is on a two match skid and Matthews has lost multiple times since last college season finished. If you want to know my opinion on Matthews and Alirez, I am going Alirez all day. I was high on Alirez before he beat McKenna and am really hoping this is the year he puts it together. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, JBluegill133 said: I just commented on this weight on another thread but I think there is going to be a new #1 almost every week at 157 this year. While I am hoping that Saldate beats Monday today, I won't be picking it. Until Monday loses he should be #1. Who do you think beats him? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I would guess 157 is next and 165 will be volatile in the top 5. Impressive depth in NCAA wrestling makes it fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBluegill133 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 While I am hoping that Saldate beats Monday today, I won't be picking it. Until Monday loses he should be #1. Who do you think beats him?Peyton Robb rolled at CKLV…and I remember an early season Robb giving David Carr everything he could handle last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was at the top of the podium Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I don't think O'Toole loses. He's That Dude at the weight. Mark Hall being the previous years champ is not factored into NCAA seed, I don't believe. He lost the 1 seed probably indirectly from the All Star match, but the match was not counted by the NCAA. The truth is, as I remember it, Zahir had a better season outside of his head to head win in the exhibition anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 If I remember correctly, Brayton Lee was a pre-season #1 on some rankings. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Idaho said: If I remember correctly, Brayton Lee was a pre-season #1 on some rankings. You remember correctly. Both WIN and Intermat had him #1 in their pre-season rankings. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Stevens Iowa-Grant/Highland, Wisconsin Class of 2026 Committed to Wisconsin Projected Weight: 141, 149
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