1032004 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Of the 28 replies, I count 4 clearly racist replies including 1 use of the n word (but at least x/twitter censored it). Not a good look. Hopefully some of these people learn to be decent humans for Christmas but I doubt it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Of the 28 replies, I count 4 clearly racist replies including 1 use of the n word (but at least x/twitter censored it). Not a good look. Hopefully some of these people learn to be decent humans for Christmas but I doubt it. I saw the N word one which was very disappointing but didn't see the other racist replies (might be me being dumb or they have already changed it). I also try to remember there are a decent amount of bots out there and hope that egregious comments are coming from there rather than an actual person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Nevermind I looked through and saw what you mean. Its unfortunate. I don't know the solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Bailey was obviously pissed off he couldn't do anything. Arujau could have been a little nicer, I suppose, but this is wrestling. If you aren't tough you won't make it. That said, seeing those asshats in the comments is sad. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 hours ago, flyingcement said: Nevermind I looked through and saw what you mean. Its unfortunate. I don't know the solution Maybe part of is continuing to encourage more blacks to wrestle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Bailey was obviously pissed off he couldn't do anything. Arujau could have been a little nicer, I suppose, but this is wrestling. If you aren't tough you won't make it. That said, seeing those asshats in the comments is sad. Obviously didn’t need to retaliate like that, but looks like Vito did give him a knee to the head at minimum. The headbutt may not have been intentional though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Best strategy is to never read the comments. There are always going to be idiots in the world whether they are truly racists or just ding-dongs who enjoy being trolls. They are the type of people who are way more likely to post something in the replies, so while the count of 4 ignorant posts out of 28 is truly a sad ratio, I would like to think the % of idiots is way less the 1% in both wrestling fans and the entire population. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 46 minutes ago, Jim L said: Best strategy is to never read the comments. There are always going to be idiots in the world whether they are truly racists or just ding-dongs who enjoy being trolls. They are the type of people who are way more likely to post something in the replies, so while the count of 4 ignorant posts out of 28 is truly a sad ratio, I would like to think the % of idiots is way less the 1% in both wrestling fans and the entire population. The % may be lower, but I think it’s clear the number of a holes in the wrestling world is not insignificant. And those 4 comments are not even counting others that were not quite as drastic, such as calling him a thug or saying he should be kicked out of wrestling forever which is laughable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, 1032004 said: And those 4 comments are not even counting others that were not quite as drastic, such as calling him a thug or saying he should be kicked out of wrestling forever which is laughable. Ya the kicked out of wrestling comment may have been the dumbest I've seen in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: Ya the kicked out of wrestling comment may have been the dumbest I've seen in a while. Baylor Fernandes on the other hand… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) The unfortunate truth is that wrestling is largely remains a rural sport...and this is reflected both in the fanbase and the participants. And yes, many of those rural fans are racist whether they readily admit or overtly display it. It's sad and it definitely hinders the growth of the sport. As a Penn State fan it makes me proud to see how Cael has embraced diverse athletes and how he's allowed them to thrive and propel Penn State to meteoric heights. The current roster boasts 6 diverse starting wrestlers - 60% of the roster is a racial minority which is almost unheard of in top D-1 programs. There are another 10 non-starterson the roster who probably identify as URMs: (Dunbar, Evans, Facundo, Garcia, Gibson, Heard, McHenry, Shindledecker, Wang) 133 - Aaron Nagao 141 - Beau Bartlett 149 - SVN (injured) 174 - Starocci 197 - Brooks HWT - Kerk And it's no coincidence that these guys also happen to be the best wrestlers on the team! Look at a program like Iowa...I think they would compete better against Penn State if they increased the diversity of their roster. Unfortunately, diverse wrestlers know that Iowa isn't exactly the most welcoming place to people of color. They can do better at a welcoming place like Happy Valley. Edited December 21, 2023 by Jimmy Cinnabon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: The unfortunate truth is that wrestling is largely remains a rural sport...and this is reflected both in the fanbase and the participants. And yes, many of those rural fans are racist whether they readily admit or overtly display it. It's sad and it definitely hinders the growth of the sport. As a Penn State fan it makes me proud to see how Cael has embraced diverse athletes and how he's allowed them to thrive and propel Penn State to meteoric heights. The current roster boasts 6 diverse starting wrestlers - 60% of the roster is a racial minority which is almost unheard of in top D-1 programs. There are another 10 non-starterson the roster who probably identify as URMs: (Dunbar, Evans, Facundo, Garcia, Gibson, Heard, McHenry, Shindledecker, Wang) 133 - Aaron Nagao 141 - Beau Bartlett 149 - SVN (injured) 174 - Starocci 197 - Brooks HWT - Kerk And it's no coincidence that these guys also happen to be the best wrestlers on the team! Look at a program like Iowa...I think they would compete better against Penn State if they increased the diversity of their roster. Unfortunately, diverse wrestlers know that Iowa isn't exactly the most welcoming place to people of color. They can do better at a welcoming place like Happy Valley. https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/penn-state-racial-justice-center-cancellation-neeli-bendapudi-terry-pegula-20231015.html Edited December 21, 2023 by jchapman Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) yeah, i bet those comments were from hicks lol Edited December 21, 2023 by Scouts Honor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preceptor Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: The unfortunate truth is that wrestling is largely remains a rural sport...and this is reflected both in the fanbase and the participants. And yes, many of those rural fans are racist whether they readily admit or overtly display it. It's sad and it definitely hinders the growth of the sport. As a Penn State fan it makes me proud to see how Cael has embraced diverse athletes and how he's allowed them to thrive and propel Penn State to meteoric heights. The current roster boasts 6 diverse starting wrestlers - 60% of the roster is a racial minority which is almost unheard of in top D-1 programs. There are another 10 non-starterson the roster who probably identify as URMs: (Dunbar, Evans, Facundo, Garcia, Gibson, Heard, McHenry, Shindledecker, Wang) 133 - Aaron Nagao 141 - Beau Bartlett 149 - SVN (injured) 174 - Starocci 197 - Brooks HWT - Kerk And it's no coincidence that these guys also happen to be the best wrestlers on the team! Look at a program like Iowa...I think they would compete better against Penn State if they increased the diversity of their roster. Unfortunately, diverse wrestlers know that Iowa isn't exactly the most welcoming place to people of color. They can do better at a welcoming place like Happy Valley. The irony of your post is amazing. I doubt Coach Sanderson would appreciate the idea that he allows "them" to thrive. Do "they" have to ask him for permission to improve? Your inherent racism is showing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: yeah, i bet those comments were from hicks lol I do agree Jimmy was stereotyping also. But one of the 4 comments I referenced was from a Hawkeye fan… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 good work fellas. i had a heart attack when i saw this thread title. 2 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: 60% of the roster is a racial minority which is almost unheard of in top D-1 programs. It is not... look at the roster ... 36 guys and mostly white - about 13 or so minorities. Will you be switching your narrative in two years when his next two recruiting classes have 12 white kids and 2 minorities and many of the guys you listed are done? 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Idaho said: It is not... look at the roster ... 36 guys and mostly white - about 13 or so minorities. Will you be switching your narrative in two years when his next two recruiting classes have 12 white kids and 2 minorities and many of the guys you listed are done? Just want to get this straight. Is Cael Sanderson racist or not? I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphTJones Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 So many companies do thorough background research on potential employees, including social media. Imagine not landing a job because you got angry at some college kid and took it too far? Some people just don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Just want to get this straight. Is Cael Sanderson racist or not? According to rosters, he's not .... but he soon could be....? Edited December 21, 2023 by Idaho Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, Idaho said: According to rosters, he's not .... but he soon could be. Damn Jimmy had to bring Cael into the mix and now he's on the "is he racist radar". Damn Cinnabon. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Damn Jimmy had to bring Cael into the mix and now he's on the "is he racist radar". Damn Cinnabon. Yeah, taking virtue victory laps in the name of others (but especially in your own name) rarely (never?) ends well. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 hours ago, 1032004 said: The % may be lower, but I think it’s clear the number of a holes in the wrestling world is not insignificant. And those 4 comments are not even counting others that were not quite as drastic, such as calling him a thug or saying he should be kicked out of wrestling forever which is laughable. Yeah, maybe wishful thinking on my part for both the wrestling community and the world at large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 hours ago, 1032004 said: The % may be lower, but I think it’s clear the number of a holes in the wrestling world is not insignificant. And those 4 comments are not even counting others that were not quite as drastic, such as calling him a thug or saying he should be kicked out of wrestling forever which is laughable. I agree, it's laughable, but you see this on social media all the time if a kid throws a punch - even as young as elementary school. I think that one is more Karenism than racism. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Idaho said: I agree, it's laughable, but you see this on social media all the time if a kid throws a punch - even as young as elementary school. I think that one is more Karenism than racism. Why not both? Parents are the worst thing about youth sports - regardless of the sport. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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