Should the NCAA bring back 118 & Unlimited?

[TexRef]

It's ironic that we say wrestling is for everyone.....as long as you're not too small or too big.

 

[ionel]

No

 

Although on second thought, with the current food price inflation maybe in ~10 years we will not to temporarily (say 5 years) drop all the weight classes down by say 10% to reflect the loss in weight of the general population due to this here high inflation era.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited November 9, 2022 by ionel

[Sheerstress]

Personally I would want it for that reason, although probably very unlikely to happen. 

[Scouts Honor]

is there a glut of 110 pound college kids who want to wrestle

or a glut of 400 pound blobs....

in todays culture those 400 pounders aren't gonna want to  work very hard

 

118 might be fun to watch

400... not so much 

[Scouts Honor]

  On 11/9/2022 at 5:30 PM, Scouts Honor said:

is there a glut of 110 pound college kids who want to wrestle

or a glut of 400 pound blobs....

in todays culture those 400 pounders aren't gonna want to  work very hard

 

118 might be fun to watch

400... not so much 

most people can't stand to watch 285 dance... 

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[flyingcement]

Instinctively, yes I would want those divisions.  I think that in order to decide on what weight classes are best - we need to see a natural weight distribution of potential wrestlers.  Maybe we can buy this information from 23 and me.  

[Fadzaev2]

I could have seen them adding the 7 pounds that first year to allow for the stricter wt. cutting....rubber suits, saunas, etc. and then after the adjustment to that, bringing back the weights minus the 7 pounds ....118, 126......197, HWT.  

[SetonHallPirate]

The weights I've been pushing for are as follows (there's a reason for them, that any HS coach in a state that uses the new 14-weights system would catch onto immediately):

125-133-141-149-157-165-175-190-215-285

[bnwtwg]

126-135-144-155-164-175-190-203-214-285

If the tweeners don't like it then they can just cut harder or lift more. That's what the tweeners of today are always told.

Sincerely,

Too big for 197 / too small for 285 who is tired of hearing "no 220er competes after HS" like yeah no shit it's because there is no point except for the blue chip elite so why waste the few precious years of my youth. If you give opportunities you would be shocked to see increased results.

 

[nhs67]

Kurt McHenry and Malik Heindselman say yes.  They want a chance to be runner-ups to Lee at 118.

[flyingcement]

Bobby Weaver would have done well with another weight below that - 110 or so.  

[mspart]

They raised the weights due to a weight cutting issue.   That is now gone.  I think going to 118 is fine because of the strictures of how much weight is cut and all that.

I don't think unlimited should be tried.   You go go to 320 I suppose but those guys are football players anyway.  I say just add 118. 

mspart

[Wrestej]

I don’t think either of those weight classes are needed.  A 215-225 class would be good.  For the bigger guys over 285 I imagine they are going to be linemen for football.

[flyingcement]

If there was a 215, which current guys would thrive there?

Braxton Amos, Ethan Laird, Michael Beard, Tanner Sloan.  Not sure how many others currently would benefit from that class but I could be missing a bunch 

Edited November 10, 2022 by flyingcement

[treep2000]

  On 11/10/2022 at 2:13 AM, flyingcement said:

If there was a 215, which current guys would thrive there?

Braxton Amos, Ethan Laird, Michael Beard, Tanner Sloan.  Not sure how many others currently would benefit from that class but I could be missing a bunch 

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Imagine Kollin Moore or Kyle Snyder at 215 in college... 

[Wrestej]

Would have been a perfect weight for Zach Elam.

[MPhillips]

  On 11/10/2022 at 12:03 AM, nhs67 said:

Kurt McHenry and Malik Heinselman say yes.  They want a chance to be runner-ups to Lee at 118.

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[treep2000]

NCAA should align with freestyle senior weights.  Allows for smoother transition to world level achievements and guys can settle in weights more efficiently and effectively.

[nhs67]

  On 11/10/2022 at 2:27 AM, treep2000 said:

NCAA should align with freestyle senior weights.  Allows for smoother transition to world level achievements and guys can settle in weights more efficiently and effectively.

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I am 10000% on board with this.  I also think Greco and Freestyle need to align as well and I think aligning the women's weights with the men's (where they are close) makes sense as well.

[ionel]

  On 11/10/2022 at 2:27 AM, treep2000 said:

NCAA should align with freestyle senior weights.  Allows for smoother transition to world level achievements and guys can settle in weights more efficiently and effectively.

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Curious, how does DT's freestyle weight align with his college weight?

[MPhillips]

  On 11/10/2022 at 3:18 PM, ionel said:

Curious, how does DT's freestyle weight align with his college weight?

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https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/weight/kg-to-pound.html 

[bnwtwg]

  On 11/10/2022 at 2:13 AM, flyingcement said:

If there was a 215, which current guys would thrive there?

Braxton Amos, Ethan Laird, Michael Beard, Tanner Sloan.  Not sure how many others currently would benefit from that class but I could be missing a bunch 

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Off the top of my head in addition to those you listed I can think of Jacob Warner, Thomas Penola, Lucas Davison, both Elam brothers, Truax, Christian Carrol (incoming), Pete Christiansen (will possibly never make a varsity start at Wisconsin).

Anthony Cassar, Jacob Kasper, Ty Walz, and Derek White are other recent high success contemporaries

[jchapman]

  On 11/10/2022 at 5:05 PM, bnwtwg said:

Off the top of my head in addition to those you listed I can think of Jacob Warner, Thomas Penola, Lucas Davison, both Elam brothers, Truax, Christian Carrol (incoming), Pete Christiansen (will possibly never make a varsity start at Wisconsin).

Anthony Cassar, Jacob Kasper, Ty Walz, and Derek White are other recent high success contemporaries

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Christiansen got the start against Minny in Feb 21, and lasted over 3:00 against Gable.

[mspart]

Yes, a 215 or 230 weight class makes sense.

mspart

[bnwtwg]

  On 11/10/2022 at 2:27 AM, treep2000 said:

NCAA should align with freestyle senior weights.  Allows for smoother transition to world level achievements and guys can settle in weights more efficiently and effectively.

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pssst...

  On 11/9/2022 at 7:42 PM, bnwtwg said:

126-135-144-155-164-175-190-203-214-285

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I took the world FS weights and rounded up to the next pound.