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Weirdly he was a physics major

Good stuff.

Now when someone says something is a nothing burger, it almost immediately sounds alarm bells in my mind that there is probably more there than they are letting on or there is a hidden agenda to not talk about it...

If school loan payback and lower interest rates occur... expect a strong second half.

Not sure that 200m butterfly guys are the sharpest tools in the drawer. (my master coach was friends with Craig Beardsley. He told us the story about how, near the end of his 200m fly WR swim, everything just turned red)

Hawkes over Stoner at 285lbs?

I do despise the term “nothing burger” myself if I’m being honest

Flo seems to agree with you. I know rankings don’t mean anything especially right now. But I found it interesting that Bates is ranked and Hawks isn’t.

With a non zero inflation # Over time (infinity) billionaires will be the poor. You may have to wait some time but arbitrary “ceilings” are weird in so far as that. remember when Bernie bagged on millionaires …. Given he now is one he changed from M to B. Convenient.

I don't disagree. I do think they're better options at 165lbs, though.

Everybody ... or maybe we don't need no more taxes.

Now you are making sense!! mspart

For me, downplaying it when you only have one side of the story is the problem and I can see why the accusers are upset. There is clearly some evidence of wrong doing, otherwise, in the sue happy world we live in, there would be defamation lawsuits for the original article. CS was added to USA wrestling's "Interim Membership Suspension" list and booted from NLWC; Why, if it's a "nothing burger"? But, I do agree with others in this group that Willie/Flo/Basch/Mineo/etc. (whom I would call "wrestling enthusiast's" instead of "journalists") use their platforms to make money, and it's hard to get the clickbait needed if you lose your inside track by saying something that may upset your sources. I can't blame them for that...if only everyone was lucky enough to cover their sport for a living. It's a sensitive topic, so people are always going to be unhappy...

Both are too small in my opinion

Well, let's see him earn the spot then? Wrestlestat favors Voinovich.

@flyingcement If you don't understand the portal, no one does.

All due respect, you shouldn’t lump yourself in with these other folks Mr Saylor. Your forum is a last bastion of free and open discussion in an increasingly paywalled universe. Slow-pedaling certain news about high impact, high click-generating programs is what people are talking about. It’s the Brady Belichik T-swift Mahomes parade, but with wrestling shoes. Honest reporting on important issues gets dismissed or under-reported, because nobody is willing to risk being locked out of Ohio State or Penn State for a decade. But that’s no longer journalism. Why did it take a non-wrestling journalist break the Ohio State hellickson-era story? Because that journalist needed to be outside the sport to be impartial and unaffected by the potential backlash from programs and coaches. If this Starrocci news was breaking at oregon state or little rock or Chattanooga, it would be completely dissected and completely out in the open, no holds barred. But with state college in particular, people treat that room the way they treat the vatican. And that’s not good. The inherent societal value of journalism is asking the unseemly questions at the inappropriate times. It is the magnifying glass society simultaneously offers and levels at all individuals. Asymmetric application is where the disapproval comes from.

I think Bates goes 197 and Hawks gives it a go at heavyweight (or just becomes the backup)

I admittedly know very little about how all of this works, but I'd imagine there is something more significant coinciding with that test than just plain ol' over-the-counter DHEA. 4 years is crazy.

Where does Evan Bates fit now that he has signed? One year of eligibility left for him and Hawks, who gets the nod? I also think we see Rath RS and take over 157 the following year. Idk if he can make and maintain 149.

Also Gabe Arnold is listed as being in the portal on WrestleStat. So does this mean that anytime a team that dismisses an athlete after the portal closes, the athlete is allowed to enter the portal anyway? I wonder how it would work if it's the athlete that unenrolls at a school - is he then transfer eligible? It's less of a wild west than last season, but I still don't understand some of these quirks

It could be a different instance of DHEA use but on the USADA website that last instance of a DHEA ban since 2023 was posted on 6/18/2025 and it was a 4-year suspension. I feel like we would know if that was Brooks just interesting.

Marco Tocci removed from the portal and back at UNC.

Pretty much this. It was the rapid shift from "nothingburger" to the only 5x champ in NCAA history who is knocking on the door of senior world and Olympic teams being told to leave immediately. It warrants further discussion and logical folks are rightfully asking if there is bias. Wrestling is a sport on life support; this is an example of scenario fans are asking for deeper insight into; perhaps this is the type of media and content and journalism shift to acquiesce. Just throwing it out there.