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Putin is evil, Russia's invasion into Ukraine is a War crime. I think we're all in agreement there. I am in favor of supporting the Ukraine and their sovereignty...and that includes sending military aid to the Ukraine. Not with Ron "Desanctimonious" on that one. There's no defense of Russia. The Country is an enemy of the US. They're objectively wrong. There are Russians in the region they're trying to "reclaim." So what? There are Neo-Nazi's in the Ukraine...they were minimized and had little credibility with a Jewish Man was elected President by an overwhelming margin. But when it comes to the Olympics, who are you punishing? Russia's an oppressive regime. You speak out, you're arrested, imprisoned if you're luck for a short time...sometimes assassinated. You're still punishing individuals at the end of the day. Has the "Republic of Dagestan" got anything to do with this War? And I have gone back to them because it's a Wrestling board. If you ban all athletes from Russia, I don't think you accomplish anything. This isn't and shouldn't be viewed as a defense of Russia's actions.

That wasn't the argument being made by anyone here? That an unprovoked attack means you shouldn't be allowed to participate in the Olympics? Huh... Perhaps you could clarify then? What are you talking about? When in the hell did I ever "add the question of our culture being OK with "rape?" So ad hominem because I don't agree with your arbitrary line in the sand which apparently only Russia has crossed? I'll let me argument stand on their own. What you think of my "credibility," and bringing that up rather than the actual conflict cited is...not a good look. It wasn't vague, it was your ignorance. As mspart correctly pointed out, this was not well covered in the United States. It was something you should know about if you're going to be the arbiter of who should and shouldn't be allowed in the Olympics. Really curious though where I said "our culture" was ok with rape. Feels like you're confused here.

Perhaps. And perhaps you're not really the expert or authority to speak on what the people of Azerbaijan are celebrating. I didn't realize you were from there. That'd show a staggering amount of hypocrisy.

I think you're optimistic, but not overly so. Parris is the clear favorite. I have Kerkvliet, but...that's accurate and he could rack up some pins. Ragusin is a guy who's all over the place for me, but I could see a top 5. I like Lamer and Medley and could see them grinding out a couple extra wins. Not a huge difference, but a few points. Lewan is a real wild card. The guy can score, but he's in a 1 point match or a tie match EVERY-FRIGGIN-TIME. So he can beat anyone and lose to anyone at the NCAAs with his style. Amine-I don't see him taking 4th I'm not real high on Finesilver, but...results are results. He's produced. I think Michigan will finish with ~50 points in the 8-10 range.

I'm not particularly religious either...and when I say particularly I mean...more like at all. But I'd have walked the streets knocking on doors and going on missions if it meant success like Cael or...so many of the PSU Wrestlers.

I think when they stop dominating the field, that's a discussion that may have a BIT more weight behind it... Dake, Taylor, Snyder, Gillman, Varner...Cornell, PSU(obviously...a dozen more), Ohio State, Iowa, Iowa State. Their best all choose to train where? 9 of the last 11 NCs. Seem like their managing their program pretty well.

Feel free...

I'm not sure this is making your argument stronger. This isn't about what the Cornell coaches were happy with, this is just another example of why ignoring past results is ridiculous.

I mean...it'd mean he wrestled at least 7 years. That used to be a guys 3rd year out of College. God help us if he decides he wants an Olympic redshirt if his shoulder ever heals up.

Two guys who injured themselves wrestling for another school and then at the Olympic Trials qualifier? How are either of those on Penn State?

Yeah, they paid Woods a lot of money to come there and Wrestle. I think making the finals is the expectation, not an outlier this year. It's just kinda silly to make this a make or break anything for Iowa or to suggests this speaks to their ability to develop or not. Watching that match vs Lee, Woods was RIGHT there with him. Attacking, constantly moving. He was closer to Lee than anyone else.

Yeah...this threads are kinda silly.

Yeah, it has to have. You've had finalist who didn't qualify the following year. Craig Henning comes to mind. Took 8th I think at the B1Gs...didn't get one of the conferences at large bids in the old system when things were insanely political.

I don't know either. Again, just repeating what I have read, but they seem to be an important ally vs Russia, Iran, possibly China according for the US. The US stepped in here and kinda slapped their wrists, but it was kept quiet. No Armenian flags on Twitter, no outrage. Just came and went and probably because it just wasn't interesting enough for most US Citizens. If @Cherkov hadn't mentioned it, I probably wouldn't have mentioned it because it seems like it was so much longer ago.

Caldwell beat Metcalf...twice. But it doesn't make the second any less shocking.

Sure, but nobody who'd won 3 titles had ever lost another NCAA Match before Yianni went down this year. So...ya know...that means something...right? Seriously, I think Glory has a 1 in 10 shot at knocking off Lee given it'd be on Sat night. Yianni...I thought Gomez MIGHT be able to beat him again, but that was healthy and wrestling well all season. I think he has a boring tournament and wins like...9-2 or so.

If you look further, don't look for the video. I still can't get that image out of my head...or images. It'd be like if our Seals did this and they were celebrated for it. https://asbarez.com/azerbaijani-atrocities-including-mutilation-of-female-soldier-detailed-to-foreign-diplomats/

Yeah, this is a BRUTAL way to go for any kid, especially a kid with a...legit chance to make a run and maybe get into the finals or semis(I don't remember the bracket off the top of my head...I think he was on Yianni's side as the #9 though). Anyway...yeah, I'd rather see a kid with one more chance. But, he's an All American.

Gomez vs Parco? If Gomez is healthy, they'll wrestle in the Semis.

Yeah...what's he care? The #1 seed didn't even make it. That's part of the absurdity of ignoring past results.

I'm sorry, I just can't wrap my head around that. The argument was made if you attack another Country, you shouldn't be allowed in the Country. And if it IS ok in your culture and your celebrated for raping and then desecrating a young women's dead body while you post it online and your special forces become goddamn hero's because of it, maybe they're just that fvcked up and they shouldn't be allowed in irrespective of their culture, societal norms...or intent. It's just so incredibly random what we actually get outraged over and...entirely inconsistent.

Why? He's asking why you're not calling for Azerbaijan from being banned. Pretty legitimate question as they committed horrible atrocities, but they've remained as most favored Nation Status as they could prove a useful ally vs Russia or Iran or just in that region. Pretty apples to apples. I'm not sure what he didn't do well enough there and I don't know what's more serious?

And that's being celebrated Nation Wide. The depravity of that alone( nevermind the other soldiers they show mutilated)...it is horrific.

Yeah...if it was a Grizzly, I'd have ended up going through the digestive track of a Grizzly. BUT, ANY Bear you see with Cubs will attack and kill you if you are viewed as a Cub. I really think if I hadn't seen the Cubs about 30 seconds ahead and started to slowly back up, that Bear could have attacked. Anyway...I was fine, not about me. I just remember that fear...and then we'd watch them come in(Gramps fed them) and you could turn on the lights about 60 yards away in the Summer and there'd be 4-6-8 Bear out there and then 20 yards away, you'd see up to 10-15 Deer. They were tiny compared to Grizzly Bears, but the way they just ripped the meat from the bone, it was wild. We did have some big ones. Had a cousin shoot a 600 LB Black Bear out the window(pretty sure that was illegal, but that was like 20 years ago). ANYWAY, original story. Grizzly and throwing yourself into one. That's absolutely insane.

It's his hand movement that has me messed up. He comes out and moves like a JV kid who was taught stance and then a level change...but he's not sure what to do with his hands. And then you shoot and he fakes one way, gets about 3/4ths of the way around and hops to the other side for a TD, or just uses that 11 foot wingspan to run through an ankle pick he has. The B1Gs made me a believer. He's got a 10-15% chance to win this...or maybe make the finals. Much higher than I'd have thought 6 weeks ago.