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Oh Christ....the stupidity of shit shit. If only you could look at the GDP, see the GROWTH, watch as the United States has become the OVERWHELMING powerhouse in designing GPUs with NVDA and AVGO, the Chip act(which Trump said he'd repeal and was one of the most successful pieces of economic policies in Presidential History, the act at the heart of the AI revolution) and you look at POSITIVE GDP growth vs Trump's NEGATIVE GDP growth! It's all good. I understand much of this is over the heads of those re-posting Fox News Graph and I bought a couple thousand shares(pre-splitS) of NVDA in '20(as well as TSM, AVGO). I'll sell that and I'll be fine, but Trump and his team aren't even hiding what they plan on doing and people are still just blindly repeating this ignorant shit. GDP GROWING 5-6% MORE under Biden than under Trump. But yeah, they're making it "harder to do commerce." The 3 TSM plants going on line in Arizona were 'hard to do,' with relatively small grants and MASSIVE investments. The Google investments in Wisconsin, the AMZN, META, MSFT growth, NVDA going from a 250M to 3.5 TRILLION dollar company, again, in thee MOST important economic sector for the next 100 years. The mechanism we'll use to DEFEND ourselves, to find and cure cancer(AI is already helping identify breast cancer 5 years before any Dr would be able to detect it)...THAT WAS BIDEN. That was the Chips act. But I get it...y'all are so afraid of some tranny you've never met and you like the guy who has bankrupted DOZENS of small businesses, turned 400M into less money than if he'd JUST stuck it into an index fun, bankrupted casinos, screwed pornstars, cheated on every woman he's been with, THEN played the Christian and when asked if he's ever asked for forgiveness, responded, "I keep God out of that." The man is TELLING you what he's going to do. Across the board tariffs! 40 of his 44 cabinet members had come out and said they will either endorse Kamal or NOT endorse him. They're OPENLY talking about taking what is now a BOOMING economy that's a curly hair away from the ideal 2% inflation and he's going to send it into a recession with his tariffs(Musk's words...and it'll be Musk overseeing it, another immigrant working here "illegally," like his wife(Which...IDGAF a bout, but if you'r going to complain about immigrants breaking their backs working construction and not this, you're comical hypocrites)... If that's what you need because you struggle to understand inflation and economics and you want to lay that at Biden's feet(it's not even Trump's "fault" unless you consider a world in which he dealt with COVID like a competent President)...then that's on you. I've been lucky enough to do better than I could have dreamt of the past 4 years. Again, I'll pull everything out, maybe buy a few multi-families when the recession hits(I did it last time) and live off the dividends of Bond ETFs... until we get another grown-up in there. That's IF we have an election in 2028.

First of all, Trump lots manufacturing jobs BEFORE Covid came. We'd lost 43,000 jobs. He had NOT rebuild manufacturing in the US, that's just a lie. "performative accountability?" The ignorance in this election is just unfathomable. Obama left Trump with ONE primary message. Be prepared for the next pandemic. We'd had pandemics, we WILL have another one. We had an ENTIRE infrastructure in place for a pandemic(I've said this to YOU before, so you're just playing dumb now or you don't WANT to know the truth). This started six MONTHS before it got to the United States. Trump said it wasn't coming here. We had 43 infectious disease specialists IN WUHAN. We had infectious disease specialists in multiple places in Africa(remember the Ebola scares, SARS, various potential pandemics that the UNITED STATES as the world leaders came in, did contract tracing, quarantined people, and had ACTUAL travel restrictions(unlike the fake China travel restrictions in which 40,000 people flew to and from China in the 3 months from Feb to April. The time Trump was saying it would "magically disappear." You think MAYBE that 5-6 month head start and KNOWING what we were dealing with as opposed to trusting the CCP and their disclosure could have helped prevent Covid from spreading to every corner of the world? Why did he recall NEARLY every infectious disease specialist? Why did he disband the pandemic response team(which happened at HIS orders only for him to later claim...he had no idea, he'd never heard of them and AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, he took "no responsibility at all?" But lets talk about "performative accountability." Biden comes in, LIKE Obama. An economy in absolute tatters. We had supply line issues, we had factories shutting down due to Covid outbreaks and we had price gouging. The cost to the US Economy is estimated at 14 trillion DOLLARS on top of Trump taking the Debt at growing it by 10 TRILLION dollars while keeping interest rates low(or the Fed did that, but Trump believes the Fed will report to him and under project 2025, they would). So Trump deserves ZERO blame for letting Covid run rampant despite it being the ONE brief left on his desk and the desk of EVERY staffer only for it to be ENTIRELY disregarded, he deserves no blame for ACTUAL travel restrictions(what he actually did was tell the State Department to stop issuing new passports...nothing about existing ones). But you're going to try and tell me at the SAME FCKN TIME that Biden gets ALL of the blame for inflation, a lagging indicator and one that was already starting to increase when Trump was leaving office? Either you just don't understand what you're talking about and you're parroting lazy talking points, or this is one of the most intellectually dishonest discussions I've ever had. (I'd also LOVE if you could tell me what JUST 10% across-the-boardnever mind tariffs do and who pays for them, nevermind 20% and 60% tariffs with China, not with a scalpel, with a sledgehammer. Hope you're not invested in AAPL stock. Your phones are going to increase by about 60%. "We will not see Coronavirus come here."

Cool...well, at least go into this with your eyes open. Plan-Tariffs. The worst economic policy in US History when used in just blanket terms. The main cause of the Great Depression. -Per Trump and his campaign it will lead to 2 years of a recession, cuts to SS, Medicare, the markets will "take a tumble," and then...HOPEFULLY we'll come out of it. Put that in contrast to an economy with 2.1% inflation(the of ideal number being 2). Very low unemployment(we'd have massive problems if you deported every undocumented just from a purely financial standpoint) and they're warning you of the "hardships," you'll have to deal with for the next couple years. If he's still your choice...alright. When you see the markets crash when he announces those tariffs, don't whine about it. I've done well enough the last 4 years I can pull my money out, put it in...bonds or whatever and make 20-30K a year on that and just stick that back in. But I'm not riding the market back down 20-25% in what's likely an optimistic scenario.

Why don't you show the debt relative to GDP growth under the 4 years of Trump? -2.2% GDP growth And who added more to the debt than Trump? Nobody. -2.72M jobs lost under Trump +14.6M jobs ADDED under Biden Couch it how you'd like...those are the numbers and Trump's tariffs are going to destroy what right now is a growing GDP with inflation down at ~2.4% https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-agrees-his-cuts-would-cause-economic-pain-but-if-elected-could-trump-and-his-republican-allies-stomach-it-205754834.html?.tsrc=fin-notif The ONLY argument is that...Trump won't actually do the ONE thing he's done and that he's built his entire economic policy on. That's brilliant.

Yes...it's baffling. Even in an optimistic view, Trump's plan will gut the economy for JUST two years. And you actually have people on here claiming Trump brought back manufacturing when we LOST jobs, but not Biden...despite gaining 800K jobs. It's puzzling that anyone can look at what impact tariffs have historically had to the US Economy and think, 'derr...this time it'll work.' Just amazing after Trump trashed the economy and we're back to 3-4% GDP growth, we're WILLINGLY going back to negative GDP growth(just a gift to China) because...it's a cult. There's nothing more than that.

We had NEGATIVE GDP growth. Inflation ROSE under Trump from Obama, we LOST manufacturing Jobs under Trump(Even before Covid which he magically gets NONE of the blame for) and we've GAINED 800K manufacturing jobs under Biden... But I guess if you just say 'nuh-uh,' then it must be true.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-agrees-his-cuts-would-cause-economic-pain-but-if-elected-could-trump-and-his-republican-allies-stomach-it-205754834.html?.tsrc=fin-notif

I also find it interesting, for all the people who are now "discredited," by being in pictures with Diddy, trump, like Epstein, referred to him as a "great friend and a great person," and said he "loved Diddy," and partied with him regularly in the 90s. Trump, he work visas for hundreds of young girls ~14-20 who came over to serve men at parties with the hopes of earning "modeling" contracts. Of all the creepy shit, talking about how you'd probably be having sex with your daughter when she's barely 20 if "ya know, I wasn't her Dad," is....up there. Even above the "you know what's funny...I'll be dating her in 10 years," to 10-year-old girls. I don't know how this election will go(I suspect Trump will win due to the dumbing down of this Country...which you can see in the return of the Flat Earth theory in which people actually believe Asgard is just outside the Ice Walls and you're not "allowed" to go to the North Pole as well as ALL the other conspiracies, but the one that's almost the most impressive is how Trump has been able to take the HIGH road by many cult members on protecting children/sex work. Makes you wonder why he'd need "Trump Escorts," trademarked or why he'd have been having SOOO many parties similar to Diddy and Epstien? Or shit, why did he try and give Acosta, the guy who went behind Federal Prosecutors and give Epstein a deal when they had enough on him to put him away for 20+ years EASILY and were TALKING about a plea deal in which he'd get 10 years, and have Acosta give him a deal with 1 year of home confinement and then in an unprecedented move, include blanket immunity for all known and UNKNOWN co-conspirators. For all the Epstien conspiracy theories about who shut him up, why give the guy who got him off(at least in one manner of speaking) a job in your administration? And then...you wish his pimp well in a multitude of ways on multiple occasions and you BUY THE JET Epstein used! I mean, the last one is not incriminating, but it's weird AT BEST. The most infamous private plane from the renowned child trafficker that you spoke highly of, you visited regularly...you'd think you'd stay away from THAT if nothing else! And finally...again, I don't think it proves any liability on Trump's behalf, but if you can contort yourself into buying into these theories that the Clintons' or some other shadowy figure was behind the Epstein "suicide," which...I actually think may have been a suicide, he was the most infamous predator in the world by then, but if you ARE going to blame said shadowy figure, why WOULDN'T it be his old buddy Trump? He was the man in power. How does NOTHING that happened when he was POTUS fall on his lap, but all the good things he inherited, that's all because of him? As one person said on this very forum when I pointed out Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose a supporter and that person said, "If Trump shot someone, they were in need of shooting. By the way, is Gary Hart still alive? He has to be thinking, "what in hell? I was on track to be president and one affair ended me!?! This guy has had countless, including with porn stars and allegedly underage girls and he's got a whole cult! I was banging one blonde on a boat and it ended my career! I won't even get into the 40 of 44 Members of his Cabinet, as well as countless other Republicans who are now lined up behind him. Amazing....

No, it we're being honest, that was a partisan ***duck** up, but don't tell me the guy who was President for 7 years was warning about it. The ONE absolute though...across the board tariffs are a massive tax, they're not effective and tariffs have been the single worse policy in US History on balance. Smoot-Hawley being the main one. You don't get money from other Countries, your companies pay taxes. Biden showed how...much he declined during the debate. If MAGA wasn't a cult, they'd admit the same thing after that Rogan podcast. Even Rogan...who's not even been subtle about his biases, laughed at him. He's not fit for office for a plethora of reasons. Rome's burning. It's a small fire, but it's burning hot. We can either throw a little water on it, maybe suffocate it...or we can pour a bunch of jet fuel on it. Either way, we'll get what we deserve. If we want to be fair, the GOP was against the Bank "Bailout," which the US made it's money back on and then some, stopping a run on the banks, and Obama bailed out the Auto Industry which was... immeasurable in terms of economic impact. I'm not really trying to legislate every single aspect of the economy going all the way back or I'd point to Nixon freezing prices AND wages as a band aid to a gaping GSW when inflation and unemployment were inching toward 8%....then Ford upheld said policies and Carter was left with the inflation and poor economy and who was blamed for it? The guy sitting behind the big Oval Desk. That ONLY doesn't apply to one President...and it's the 44th man to serve as President of the United States and likely(possibly) the 46th if he wins next week. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/12/who-is-really-responsible-for-the-housing-crisis/250482/ EITHER WAY, inflation in the last CPI was down to 2.4%, the GDP is growing between 3-4%, unemployment is low...and unlike '16 when Trump promised tax cuts, even Wall Street doesn't want him back in there(they already got their cut). But you could go on for hours about "facts," point out the man who claims the elections in 2016 and 2020 were riggged, the emmy's were rigged, the Nobel Peace Prize was rigged, point out more members of the armed forces died under his watch, pulled out of Syria giving the Russians a foothold in the area and abandoning the Kurds, the guy who calls himself a Christian yet when asked if he's ever asked for forgiveness has said, "No...I really don't think I have. I'm trying to think what would I have asked forgiveness for....I like to keep god out of all that," again, the capstone to Christianity and his supporters say, "fake news." So....alright. I did find it funny that he went on Rogan, in part to "prove," the election was "rigged," and when Rogan asked him, he said he had a "stack of papers," and they'd talk about it "some other time." Kamala isn't going to be Lincoln, but she's better than the guy we've been dealing with. And given the way he didn't leave office, how his Generals are talking about how he's "fascist to the core," I don't have faith he'll leave this next time. He said he deserves an "extra term" because his was "stolen" from him. So the argument isn't that the Democrats were perfect on the housing crisis, it's FAR deeper than that. But if they were sounding the alarm bells, why didn't they do ANYTHING when they controlled Congress? Or even try?

Shit...I'll have to add her to my list with Hunter Biden of people NOT to vote for...

If they say they're a "Never-Trumper," say he's America's Hitler...and then they join the ticket with him and say he's the only one who can make America Great Again. They all do it, but...sometimes it's a big more egregious. "America's Hitler."

You mean the housing crisis that took place the final year of Bush's 2nd term?

Who is this?

Yeah, when people can watch him in that interview and deny it? LOL...he was bad. I remember Nickal and Rogan talking about how Biden thinking there were airports during the Revolutionary War was "disqualifying," and then Jamie had to chime in and correct them, that he was mocking Trump and immediately it was the "well, when you give that many speeches, you get your words mixed up." It doesn't matter. We'll get who we deserve. If it's the absolute fool who thinks that across-the-board tariffs are the way to go or the guy who thinks the Chips Act was a "terrible deal," because "they stole all our chips...we used to make the most beautiful chip, now, we don't make chips," then we deserve the negative GDP growth that'll come with that. That's the most puzzling shit to me. Bush leaves a TERRIBLE economy, under Obama, it turns around, it's going strong, Trump comes in....completely drops the ball on the pandemic, leaves another disaster, Biden has it completely turned around....and we're thinking, 'nah, lets go back again.' If that's what we do, that's what we deserve. The man said...."I love the poorly educated."

How much is Iowa giving Sadulaev(I mean, why not open this up to the Russians as well). That man doesn't have to get off the bottom once. You're not turning him and I doubt he gets stalled out in 2 minutes. So just a bunch of 1st period TDs, pick neutral, more TDs, probably a fall, and then someone picks top and he probably gets out, but even if he's the worst version of Yonger Bastida on the bottom, still nothing).

Gee...how would the best Wrestlers in the WORLD do...in Wrestling? That's an interesting question. Probably poorly.

I guess I'll be picking him at HT this year. He reminds me of Tommy Rowlands so much. I get that's a lofty comp, Rowlands...he went, what, 1, 2, 6, 1...so ya know, not quite the same trajectory, but I think it's entirely possible he ends up in the same place. Beating a bigger Penn State Wrestler in the finals. Trephan is a helluva Wrestler to be watching from the bench though.

That kid looks like he could be a monster up at 174 after a RS year. He's so long, athletic...but the few times I've seen him, he wrestles so conservatively. If he just opens up, with his defense, he's savvy...he could be a fun kid to watch. Another year from now, Birden at '74, Welsh at '84, Ryder goes up to '97, Feldman, that could be a helluva run to go with the bottom half of that lineup. I don't know if it's quite enough to beat PSU...but it's not hard to see them giving them a run. They need a couple kids to jump levels but man, they have some horses.

Fine, get rid if passivity. Let a guy stall in the 'Extra time,' or sudden death period. No shot clocks. I don't care. TD or push out. There's subjectivity in everything though. I'd still rather see the actually win than each guy gets a TD and a pushout, but the last pushout is somehow more meaningful

All you can do is just...laugh at the absurdity or it. I'm not real confident Taylor will place now...but he could come back and have a chance to go for 3rd.

This thread started...in a silly way, but 1-No criteria. Put them back into the Center and let them Wrestle until someone scores. 2-I thought the rule used to be you could only do one gut(maybe it was 2) unless you held them there for a 3rd point. I wouldn't mind that. That's about it. I think there's too much trying to "fix" what's not broken.

Is this confirmed? Also...I'm a big Lucas Byrd fan. I don't know the kid...I don't particularly care about Illinois...I just like the way that kid competes and Wrestles. I hope he can get on a run and win it. I don't think he will, but it'd be nice.

NO! Means no...."no, stop it, you're being so bad," that does not mean no! (Unless you get a bad read).

Ah...ok. I was thinking there was some joke that he was somehow coming back in to Wrestle after...what I assumed was a Mormon Mission, but I missed that he was a 23-year-old Freshmen. LOL...does the team Beau Bassett go jump on the list? All you need is him to take a year off Wrestling at an RTC for a year and he'll be a 23-year-old RS Freshmen! (I'm not taking a shot at the kid, a world bronze is a world bronze).

This joke is going over my head...