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You should change your name to alliseeiswhatiwantosee. 9-8 match won on riding time between a RS Freshmen and a 6th year Sr who'd gone 1,3,2,1 in his 4 years....BOTH of whom won Gold Medals at their age levels and Carr, who was gassing and pushed around the mat and won the match in the 2nd period when he just hung onto the leg as riding time ran up...that "wasn't close?" You're not a serious person. On top of all that, Messenbrink should have been a '57, not a '65, but he still took 2nd in the toughest weight class in the tournament. What is your angle? I'm still trying to figure that out. That without Jordan Burroughs, the US Mens team will never be great again after an Olympic Cycle we were probably ~3 exchanges away from 3 Golds? Which doesn't change the final results, we didn't get those three TDs, it's just...your takes are so ridiculous, what is your point?

Yes. I remember seeing the Jacob Blake story, IMMEDIATE story, Jacob Blake was just a father brining his kids home and this poor man stumbled upon a fight and because he was SO law abiding, he just felt it was his duty to break that fight up and alert the Police as a GOOD citizen would do. Not that it really matters. About 40% of the people who said the shooting was justified right away and 40% thought it was murder(because he was dead per the immediate reports). Then we learned who/what he really was and...most people didn't change their minds, they just changed their arguments. Same thing with Arbery. He was a criminal who looked inside the building and nobody runs in clothes like that(except for him every day) and there were about 30 people who'd stopped and looked at the construction as people do with new homes being built. X isn't some haven for truth and honesty, it's just more people posting misinformation. I had an uncle send me a video of the head of Pfizer saying he wanted to eliminate 50% of the population and then another where Obama is giving a speech in Germany and he's talking about doing what the Nazi's did. Both EASILY disprovable fakes(the editing didn't even match up well, but that was years ago). The fact is, most people don't go any deeper than finding the information they WANT to see and then they that becomes the truth.

Well...the idea being he's going up to HWT or he'd be done, but...yes, also that. Just assume Snyder is gone. Does Brooks fare better at 86 or vs Taz/Sad at 97KG? What would be the motivation for him? Starocci? So they can both

You am for new levels of stoopid and you consistently one up yourself. We have a number of age level world champs, Messenbrink just lost to one in the finals as a Freshmen on riding time, but sure...juuust like Jordan.

I cannot see how people have Brooks at 97KG! The dude doesn't lift! LOL...and I get that's a running joke, but...does he have the frame to go from ~189 to ~212 and compete? There's just too much length there.

It certainly seems like it. Good to remember the people are not always their Gov't.

LOL...holy shit, you REALLY do struggle with reading comprehension! "So seeing a video of someone speaking is a bad way to tell how they feel about the issues." Jeeesus...did you read what he wrote at all? Are you just dumb or is this honestly a good faith attempt to characterize what he just said? Something happens and social media has SO many false and misleading stories. YOU'RE pretending Social Media is ALL just videos of people sharing their policy positions.

Hmm...so no, Scout, you can't keep two thoughts in your head at the same time. Again, people aren't going to care about this. 1981-Walt enlists He spends 24 years in. 2004 he decides to run for Congress. 2005 he puts in for his retirement. He learns his unit MAY be deployed LOL...again, this is beyond ridiculous when the guy who called Service Members "suckers," for enlisting and asked "what's in it for them." I'm done on this one now. I'm just gonna enjoy watching as Walz and Harris poll numbers keep improving!

Your reading comprehension isn't a strong suit, is it? Go back, read the thread...it was very specifically about Walz and his handling of the protests in the aftermath of the George Floyd murder. As I said, you seem to struggle to hold two thoughts in your head at the same time.

Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Are you restarted? Are you capable of holding two thoughts in your head at once?

Yeah, it...really is. See...the Olympics are over and you're derailing yet ANOTHER thread belaboring the same points. Wait, every 4 years you say? The Olympics? Oh...well now I guess the horse is alive again...

I can't imagine we can actually answer this. When they're all at the same RTC, you have the best of the best competing vs each other. This certainly seems to have benefited the likes of Dake, Taylor among others in their goal of just getting to that level, making the teams and then winning world or Olympic Titles. The other point, yo can focus on one athlete a bit more...I don't know how much that helps...which isn't me arguing it doesn't, it's just hard to quantify. If Brooks was at another RTC, does he take that shot late in the match? It just feels like a guess. I'd lean toward the argument that the more elite, world medalist-type athletes you have in the room...the better you're going to be, but I don't know. It didn't seem to hurt Brooks ability to game plan for DT and beat him(or did it hurt DT's ability to game plan for Brooks? Though...I wouldn't really think arguably the best Wrestler in the world...at the time would need another coach to help him game plan).

Yeah...also, they kinda were out to get us. See, Kolat, Cary.

Absolutely this. I hate how guys have to make a decision to cut 20 pounds or gain 20 pounds if they're a tweener. Also...I can't help but go back to the Australian Breakdancer. There's some added commentary here...but I feel like this is the video you need to provide to the IOC when arguing, 'really? We can't get 4 more weights? REALLY?'

Oh...cool. Another anecdote. Look...if you think the word specifically used for the caricature of a witch's laugh is not sexist...then sure. It's mental gymnastics. Remember all the times Trump, Obama, Biden had to hear about their "cackling," or their "shrill" voice? I mean, of course you do, your friend group has a vastly different lexicon than the rest of the United States and the Western World! C'mon, it's clearly reserved for women, and....to argue otherwise is just silly. As for the rest of your 50/50 diverse "friend group," I don't think I can adequately put into words how little this interests me. I'm also not arguing in anecdotes as I have an extremely diverse group of friends and I could sit here and tell you 'all the republicans I know have told me cackling is a female characteristic," and it'd hold as much meaning. None. An anecdote about a personal friend group in a biased conversation...again, could not be more pointless when discussing American Vernacular and where words come from.

The Cost of College has gotten absolutely insane. There's absolutely no doubt if you just canceled all student loan debt in the US right now, the Economy would benefit from it...tremendously. And then you'd be back in the same place in 4-5 years. I'd like to see a hybrid system put in place(this would never happen and it's poorly thought out, but I think it'd be a good idea). Every student takes a year off of school between HS and College unless they have a VERY specific field they want to get into. STEM would be an obvious one. They want to be an Engineer, cool. Otherwise, the people just going because that's the next box on their parents to check off, they could spend a year in a modern day CCC type program. You spend 3 months in California building affordable houses. You spend 3 months digging wells somewhere else. You spend 3 months just digging ditches. I'm sure I'll hear shit about this as it's not a good idea and we're on the Political thing right now, but if you do that, if you spend a year learning different real-world skills, being of SOME use to the US Gov't(you could spend 3 months working on road construction, I'm sure there's plenty of infrastructure programs to work on with the state of our country and the outdated grid, bridges among other things)... Then you're eligible for some type of grant if you choose to go to College. And I'd imagine a LOT more students would have a much better idea, not waste a year of College and get to work on an actual, degree that's going to either allow you to repay those loans as opposed to a Philosophy degree where you go and manage a Dollar General after school. I'd also be personally willing to help pay for more people to get sociology degrees. One that teaches people HOW to think for themselves. A little financial literacy would come a long way. I just talked to a VERY intelligent College-educated man, a former Wrestler, Coach, someone who's done well financially...and he didn't know what compound interest was. *That's one area I think this generation is better educated than others. There's a lot of bullshit about Crypto(some of it's not bullshit as states are not investing in it s part of pension funds) and those stupid meme stocks, but I think people understand better how to accumulate wealth via the market and long term investing. But we need to gut Higher Education in this Country and try and start over(at least state schools). It costs several times more(relative to the cost of living IIRC) for kids to go to school now than it did in the 70s, 80s, and even 90s. Maybe offer to pay for more 2 year degrees so more people get into plumbing, welding, fields that are sorely lacking skilled labor. That could be another avenue to helping solve SOME issues.

Sure. And I will stand by my synopsis of how Trump inheriting an exponentially better economy than Biden did and Trump ignoring Covid and dismantling the ENTIRE pandemic response apparatus around the WORLD is why it's lazy and ignorant to just give him a pass for the 14 TRILLION dollars Covid Cost the US Gov't. Same with the pretending to shut down all flights in and out of China without ACTUALLY doing so. Here's a number that you CANNOT deny. INCOME under Joe Biden has outpaced inflation...and now wages are catching up.

Please, tell me you don't know how trade wars without telling me you don't know how trade wars work?

I'm not disagreeing. I'm actually indifferent and not well-informed on the issue. I'm simply TAKING issue with the fact that when Harris does it, it's somehow...bad because she's "looking at the polling," in Nevada...but Trump did it because a waitress in Wisconsin said they're taxing too much of her tips. The program itself, how it impacts restaurants...I just spent about 3 minutes browsing a WSJ article on why SOME economists are against it. My issue was more the double standard. Harris suggests it=Bad, Trump=....crickets. Hell, whoever brought it up on here clearly didn't even know Trump proposed it. Edit-I didn't even realize, it was YOU and Scout. Trump actually came up with this one first for better or worse. He heard the women in Wisconsin talk about it, and realized how popular it was. Why are you not calling THAT out as "idiotic populism?" Or are you? Also...why is Scout nodding like a bobble head doll? https://www.ibtimes.com/how-1-waitress-got-both-trump-harris-change-tax-policy-3739606

Oh bullshit. Trump said it like a Month ago. A "lot of leftists?" I remember seeing some peripheral articles about how it would raise costs or...some other minor shit, but PLEASE don't tell me how "the left" was all up in arms about THAT Trump comment. This was roughly the same time he was telling people this would be the last election they'd ever need to vote in... BUT, it's funny, it was JUST Harris who was pandering because she "saw the polls," and knew how many people in Vegas rely on tips and that's what delegitimized it. So I pointed out Trump said the same thing and it's "well yeah but "the left." No, there are some economists who have talked about how it could lead to higher prices and...other larger economic issues, but this was not panned by "the left." I really need to understand the double standard here though. Again, Harris says it and it's pandering. Trump says it after a waitress gets up and speaks and it's....what? Somehow NOT pandering?

There. I fixed it for you. I'd keep doing this...but it's tiring and takes a lot to continually prove some of you wrong. Plus there's the old saying about don't argue with a fool...it's that much worse when it's 3-4 on one... Trump said AT THE TIME, he did a great job. Full stop. You want additional "context," to that, but when Walz puts in for his retirement 2 months before he even finds out his unit MIGHT be going to Iraq in 2004 and they don't go until 2006, the guy who spent 24 years in the National Guard and Teaching...he did something wrong despite retiring how everyone else does MINUS the political part where the right Swift Boats him like they did with Kerry. The polls are a shifting. The rest is all noise. Good luck. Hey, I hear if Trump wins, you won't ever have to vote again. I mean, what could possibly go wrong there, right! So...good luck!

Right...as opposed to the words of Trump himself! I'd just note that when the first Target started burning and the looting of that began, who was it that started that fire? Eh, not important. Detract from Trump saying what a good job, "an incredible job," Tim Walz did and calling him a "great man."

One LAST thing...and this is why it's...pretty useful to look a little deeper into the numbers. Do you think the Pandemic HELPED or hurt Wages with regard to the pandemic? That growth was disproportionately POSITIVELY impacted because so many low-wage earners were laid off in 2019. We saw the wages of high earners explode as a direct result of Covid. So...again, the bad things that happened under Covid-No blame for Trump The GOOD things...he gets credit for those as well! I won't even get into the Tariff War started under Trump...which he STILL believes is a "tax" on China rather than the American people. I mean...for a business man, you'd think he'd understand at least the business side of US History and how tariffs were what finally pushed the US into the great depression.

It's beyond exhausting all the "but Covid," shit. Yeah, and then who took over the Covid problems? BUT, since we just want to ignore and dismiss what Covid did to the Economy under Biden, lets talk about what Trump DIDN'T do with regard to Covid. He DIDN'T ban travel...though he'd have you believe he did. In the first two months after he SAID he banned travel, 40,000 people traveled too and from China. What he did was ban the issuing of new Passports(because there was a massive demand for people wanting to go to check out China at that point, right?)-that's it. How about just being prepared for Covid? Did he have to assemble an entire team with hundreds of infectious disease specialists and then place them around the world and then have a plan in place for the next pandemic so the US, the GLOBAL LEADERS could help prevent it? Nope. That was already in place. Over 40 infectious disease specialists were ALREADY-IN-WUHAN when Trump took over. He called them back, he dismantled the Pandemic response team, the ONE item that Obama said he expressed the importance of. And he just...like most things, if Obama did it, no matter how good or bad it was, he just was rid of it. Then in a REAL measure of leadership, what did he do when asked about it? The Buck stops with me, right? That was Truman IIRC...because you're the President and the leader of the free world. Trump? Eh...not so much. With regard to wages, again, if you're going to cite inflation AND say there was negative wage growth, it's like saying someone got punched in the face AND hit in the face. It's NOT negative wage growth. It's not great wage growth(though it's increasing and now outpacing inflation)...but the negative wage growth is RELATIVE to inflation. And WHAT is that a result of? I know people love to just say "Biden." What causes inflation? Supply line issues, tariffs, massive spending...so remind me, what was happening when Biden took office? He was RIGHT in the middle of the Covid pandemic. There's always an * associated with Trump and HIS economy...like it's just soo unfair to him personally that Covid came along, but what type of economy did he inherit? A booming economy left behind by Obama. And what did Trump leave Biden? An absolute shit show. So yes, the Pandemic REALLY happened. It was REALLY still happening when Biden was President and it should have NEVER been NEARLY as bad as it was with a competent Government in place. Trump just ignored it for 5+ months. Then when he couldn't, he said it'll just "magically be gone." You cannot minimize Trump's economy, excuse it because of the Pandemic and then just ignore how he did NOTHING to mitigate the Pandemic. Actually, WORSE than nothing, he rolled back the safeguards we had in place. Then he has the balls to say China lied to him, they weren't honest...and I don't know, the CCP is the CCP, there's no confusion over the type of people who run China, but wouldn't that be a GOOD reason to have your OWN people in place? But finally, lets just go with one last thing you said; THEN WHY ARE YOU ASKING WHY THERE IS INFLATION! LMFAO....what do people NOT get!!! -14 Trillion dollars -Keeping the interest rates EXTREMELY low for FAR too long(which...it should be very-very troubling for anyone who's following what Trump is talking about that he wants the Fed to report to him rather than be independent...that is among the dumbest ideas I've ever heard and could have disastrous consequences...they absolutely MUST remain independent. I'm quite sure Biden would have had Powell cut by 75 basis points if he was in charge). -Gov't spending And this one is real neat. There's this myth that it's the Democrats who spend too much...despite repeatedly coming in and taking over terrible economic conditions(particularly the last two, Obama and Biden). Here's the REALITY of the situation; Reagan-Took the deficit from 70B to 175B. Pennies, but still amazing. He did start to tax social security after cutting taxes and he was about as erratic as Tiger Blood Charlie Sheen when it came to tax cuts and tax hikes, but all the same. Bush took it up to 300B-In his defense, he tried to raise taxes to pay down the debt and lost the election...though not because of Ross Perot as many(including myself) were led to believe. Clinton...what did he do? He got the deficit back to ZERO. We had a SURPLUS under Clinton. Bush Jr? 0 to 1.2 Trillion. Obama, despite coming in under the housing crisis, much like Biden with the Pandemic, he cut it back from 1.2 Trillion to 600B. In fact, I remember all the hand-wringing because he froze spending in order to do so. Trump...almost immediately ran the deficit back up to 1 Trillion in 2019. So we won't count 2020 because...it's apparently not fair. It's an amusing perspective to me, to NOT count the bad things that happen under a President because...he can't help them, but then turn around and hand that same blame to the next President coming in, but I understand, there's a narrative and we have to stick with it. So BOTH Parties spend too much. One party...going back ~45 years, they're significantly more responsible for the deficit. Either way, 14 TRILLION it cost the US Economy(you can never actually know the full extent as it's not possible to quantify all of the problems)...and then people ask why we had inflation AFTER that! It's amazing. All I know is SOMEHOW none of it was ever at all Trump's fault. He had ZERO responsibility to do anything, right?