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You could not have done a BETTER job of raising your hand and saying, "I don't get it," if you tried. So...I didn't listen to the whole thing because Pelosi there is talking about TARGETED tariffs on ONE Country. We just put tariffs on an UNINHABITED ISLAND with ZERO people because our President is just that stupid. WE also DIDN'T put tariffs on Russia. Ur...but Pelosi was talking about SOME form of tariffs! Jesus Christ dude...That's what you think we did yesterday? We went after EVERY Nation, friend or foe.

Sure. There was a HUGE boon in Government Jobs and Government Spending over the last three quarters. This is the type of...just nonsensical arguments. We were dominating the next great Industry. AI, GPUs. We didn't do that with Government spending and it's not gone negative due to lack of Government spending. Go back, hit play on the video and listen again. There's a reason why these Countries have no just a moat, but a MASSIVE Moat.

Congress pass Smoot-Hawley in May of 1929(May 28th to be exact) THAT is what led to everything else. If you're going by when Hoover signed it into law, I believe as an economist, you're being intellectually dishonest. The economic implications of tariffs start long before the day they're ACTUALLY imposed. 23 of the Nations Economies had either responded with tariffs or threatened tariffs by that Oct when the Market Crashed. Mind you, ALL of this comes after the league of Nations had a massive economic summit to discuss the end of tariffs...and here is why;

Well...if you destroy the economy and crush the industry at a pivotal time, a time when China is investing 1T Yuan in AI, then it's probably not going to help with American stability. I think America was MORE stable when those companies were growing, in good shape, TSM made the decision to expand their production away from just Taiwan to Japan, Germany(countries that used to be allies) and then America where they'd already said they PLANNED to build more in the future. So do I think this changed America's "stability?" Yes. I think it made it substantially less stable.

FoxConn was EXACTLY what I thought of. On the other hand, because there was such a massive demand for Nvidia's GPUs, TSM was motivated to invest 65B and spend them here(with some of that coming from the Chips Act). Threatening someone and they'll start spending that money when they're doing with the billions they're already planning on spending...which is 2029, that's quintessential Trump and it's what people better HOPE happens here. Some way for him to save face when things turns really bad for him.

Ok...so...why ask and then answer before I answer? Yeah, they were already investing 65B dollars here over the next(and past) few years. The 100B comes with absolutely NONE of the "really nice juicy incentives," you were speaking off and they won't start building until Trump is out of office if they do. Being as Trump is now charging 32% tariffs on Taiwan and has said he's going to put tariffs on the semiconductors at a later date, I doubt you'll see any of that money. Sorta like FoxConn(though in THAT case, Trump did think it was worth paying the company to move BEFORE they moved).

Yes. They already had some here, but they've got one in Washington, they have a couple in Arizona that are working. One that's coming online next year. It's the different type of lithography machines from ASML that dictate what each is capable of. The newest one is capable of the 2NM chips as well as the high end Nvidia GPUs. They have another scheduled to come on line in '27 that they've been building. The ones that they promised to build under Trump...those probably won't be started for a couple years.

I know you have trouble reading, but if you follow Smoot-Hawley, it was about a year and a half from the passing of the tariffs until we were right in the midst of substantial tariffs.

Your hopes would be dashed as he has said he won't. In fact, when Biden signed the Chip act and Taiwan Semiconductor agreed to build 3 new Fabs in the US in what is...going to be at the heart of the next industrial revolution, AI, Biden provided 6.5B dollars to get TSM to spend 65B dollars here. Trump has trashed that deal. The Chips Act and it's one of the most successful pieces of legislation in the past 10-20 years.

Really just anyone who has any deductive reasoning skills and is willing to go beyond the wiki or first "Britania online" page can figure this out quite easily. Smoot-Hawley was the catalyst. If you use the date it was SIGNED into Law by Hoover, you're missing...all Historical context. The "carried interesters?" You keep using that term as though it's a super clever one. I think Trump is dumb enough to look at the 1870s and think we can go back to a time when we had no income tax and replace that with tariffs and that's a realistic outcome. It's a fantasy. And I think he wants to force interest rates down.

No, it requires it to pass the state houses twice before it's put to a referendum. Care to explain the larger point here? You don't strike me as an idiot and the argument being made is that the Voter ID referendum was more consequential than the State Supreme Court. Are you arguing that the State Supreme Court Race was not as important as the Voter ID Law which...was ALREADY in place?

I hope you can at LEAST stop posting bogus nonsense like this. The "depression" started after they PASSED Smoot-Hawley. There was no Depression at that point and it wasn't until 23 countries responded with the THREAT of tariffs or actual tariffs that the US was plunged into a great depression. I cited unemployment, inflation, GDP expansion at the time congress passed tariffs. All three were doing exceptionally well(as they are now). I pointed out how it wasn't until AFTER we passed them that those three indicators started ticking up...and then finally how they SKY-ROCKETED in the FEW MONTHS after they were passed...with unemployment going from ~2.4% to 12.5% in the months after Hoover signed Smoot-Hawley into Law despite not wanting and economists BEGGING him not to. Only Trump and MAGA could take such a historically and objectively AWFUL event and intentionally implement it again. And do it all based on a lie. the lie that that we pay these massive tariffs.

Please, spare me the righteous indignation now. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html

Is that what "many now believe?" https://fee.org/articles/the-smoot-hawley-tariff-and-the-great-depression/#:~:text=Modern measurements of No, we should listen to the guy who proved the saying "the house always wins," is...ACTUALLY not true. Not when HE is President...

LOL...you posted a link to TRUMP saying it? That dramatic little...female dog in heat said that is "Susan Crawford wins, they'll stop everything I'm doing it, it'll be like i never won..." Now the Voter ID, which again, this was NOT to make it legal to vote WITHOUT Voter ID, this changed nothing other than it's the 3rd straight time the Republicans have put something voter ID related on the ballot, but now THAT was really the most important part of the election?

Yeah...either way, the idiot is trying to say that the voter ID referendum that quite literally wouldn't have changed ANYTHING...was more consequential...and THEN he goes on to use...obviously BS numbers from Twitter about how much money they spent on it.

Right...but YOU think referendum that WOULDN'T have actually changed anything, that was ACTUALLY the important part of the election! LOL...you know the right runs around just saying things they don't believe. They can't argue about who actually spent the most AND then claim that wasn't actually the part of the race that was important. Well...they can, but you know they don't even believe what they're saying.

Is that how you're seeing things play out? LOL...just say you don't understand what's going on Jimmy. That's...it's fine. You liked the Red Hat and now you're in over your head. Enjoy that "the worlds largest economy" title. The US GDP is now contracting and China's will be growing even more as the rest of the world turns to them. And you can still clap at the wrists with that oversized forhead and tongue sticking out talking about how great John Cena and Donald Trump are.

See? Even this moron can do simple math. Again, you can tell the people who are broke or got out of this market as they are totally unbothered. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/us-stocks-dow-nasdaq-sp-plummet-trump-tariffs-rcna199476

Oh, and one product. Semiconductors. That has NOTHING to do with the fact that Elon is spending tens of billions on them though! But they said Canada Charges 32% tariffs or whatever that board said, so it must be true(you know you're screwed whenever they bring out the board).

You know the administrations numbers are just literally made up, right? ACTUALLY prices. Remember, they also just...estimated" the cost of goods and and hinderance to business. Also, you mind telling me what the point of this post is? Are you trying to infer that Smoot-Hawley wasn't passed in 1929 or are you trying to say...'well they really thought it'd work!' Which...yeah, I'm sure they did. But it takes a special brand of moron to try doing that AGAIN.

Where are you getting he may lose Duke Welsh has 3 years of eligibility and Jayden James, Duke, Cunningham, Henkel and probably 9 more elite recruits will be there by the time Welsh' time is up.

I HONESTLY don't believe Cael is seeking out the Welsh types of Dean or guys like that. Even Ono. I doubt Cael even considered that. You hear Dake and Bo Nickal and Starocci...those are likely the guys getting into their ears and then the money is coming in and Cael's sitting there saying, 'well...the BEST P4P Wrestler in the world(Askren's words) and the guy who took 2nd as a Freshmen wants to come? Yeah, sure... As for the HS recruits, you've already heard Bassett and others talk about it. They're not out there pushing you. They tell you want they think about Wrestling, how they try and have fun and basically, 'this is what we do, we'd love to have ya.' The only thing I'm uncertain of, does he honor commitments or does he keep going after guys like James? I don't know. What I do know is that they lose Bartlett, Starocci and Kerkvliet and they'll replace them with Ono, Blaze, Welsh and Mirasola or a transfer(or Cochran) and...they already have 50 more points RETURNING than anyone else...and I'd say they were upset in 4 weights.

It definitely is. HWT is the most, then 165, then I think 177/184, 190/197...165 is like up there on the list with 4(I think 2 were Taylor...I'd guess Dake won one...so three years in a row and then...Ringer may have won one). It definitely skews heavier though. I should have cut and pasted it as the AI answer I just got said 165 was the most and...I know that's wrong. Hendrickson, Parris, Gable(2X), Mocco won one, Neal and then...Rowlands or McCoy. It was 7. I can't believe Gwidz or Snyder aren't in here, but...I don't THINK one ever won it. Also, 165 is at least 5 now that I think about it. JB won it. The only '25 and '33 that won it were Lee and Ness I think. 134(which is 141 basicaly) was Tj Jaworsky, Stieber, Stiener(?). This is...actually really easy to find is you just search by Hodge, but...I'm just gonna leave it here as I've already heart by brain enough trying to remember.

"Much closer?" How close do you supposed it could have gotten? The committee voted for him, the Fan vote went to Hendrickson... Hendrickson beating Stevenson was the end. But yeah...he had that soft late season competition. Like...the Iowa Duel, the B1Gs... You're doing a bad Jimmy.