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Through Christ, all things are possible. We're all sinners and we all stray from the path and it's at our lowest moments, it's those closest to us are there to help pull us up from rock bottom. And then...some interview where she's part of it. That's my guess.

It'd be stupid not to. Taylor's not tiptoeing around the PSU thing and if Snyder wants to leave, what type of moron wouldn't want to bring him in? I'm not convinced he's the 2026 representative with Brooks. I think Brooks struggles to go the full 97KG vs Taz andSad with his built, but vs Snyder...who isn't exactly lankly, he should do just fine.

Is Weed still on the banned substance list? I thought it was taken off(edit-I just realized, I don't think I thought it'd been taking off...I still remember Richardson getting a short suspension, I guess I just kinda assumed it had until I thought about her). I couldn't care less if a guy gets popped for Weed. I don' think there's much embarrassment associated with that. There are too many elite athletes who partake for pain management...and I'd smoke daily if it didn't have me in the corner of my own house all paranoid and weird. Oh, and I've NEVER met a pot smoker who didn't say, "oh no, this doesn't make you paranoid, it's a nice mellow buzz and great for your joints." And...I've always found it to be nonsense...maybe my joins feel better, IDK...I'm too damn paranoid. But that goes back about a decade since I've last been fooled by that little...persuasion tactic.

Ok... well, I don't agree with either. With your take or Penn States. But you have to account for why they chose to not participate 10 years ago as well. If it's about bad feelings about David Taylor taking over at Okie St...and I don't know who you're referring to other than maybe Starocci running his mouth(which is hardly new or...indicative of anything) or Nickal maybe. They're the only two guys I could imagine complaining. I'd also disagree about PSU protecting seeds or that Wrestling in November has nothing to do with Wrestling in March. I know coaches who have their schedule's and workouts planned week by week throughout the year. What I COULD see and what I think PSU...maybe as much as anyone(but Iowa and...well, most programs have done this) is that PSU in particular wants to minimize their competition, their events through the B1G duel season and they use the first half of the year to just figure out their lineup. But more than anything...they don't seem to care about National Duels anymore now than they did 10 years ago when they were the best team and also...not participating. You think it's a "cult mentality" that people project onto Penn State, but I think you are kinda projecting this onto Penn State. I think Cael just doesn't think it's worth it for the reasons he's given and that's it. He doen't feel like he has to answer to anyone becaue...well, he really doesn't. He doesn't need to justify his coaching philosophy because it's self explanatory. So...again, we BOTH believe they should be there, you're just reading much more into why they're not than I am. What's your thinking about why Cael declined to go the first opportunity he got at Penn State? I would like to hear him explain when he thinks they should be and how they should be run...as he's articulated whyhe doesn't like them(though vaguely). I would imagine this would require the NCAA to recognize it as a team duel championship...perhaps after the NCAAs as many State do with duel championships. I'd really doubt it is more about his first prized recruit and the guy David Taylor called a mentor...spiting the event because his new program was putting it on. That just doesn't feel likely. Maybe we'll have to agree to disagree here...(though I'd be interested in who has taken shots at David Taylor...I don't really stay up to date on the social media snipping).

To the first bolded part, that's not been my argument. I've NEVER said I thought he'd lose. I responded to a post as to who could stop them from winning NINE National Championships...a ridiculous number. Not that I didn't think he could or would win. To your new proposal, LOL...no! Because I said he has to take down! The point of contention was you arguing the only reason guys get ridden is a physical maturity issue. Mine is that it's... just so much more than that. A physical maturity issue, a lot of feel. You think he's going to be hitting a standing gramby and kicking out vs a tough rider? Maybe you do, I don't. If he goes the year and doesn't take down or takes down in the Black Knight Invitational...sure, he could get out. But if he wrestles it like Bastida(for example) did and he's losing 1-0 matches because he doesn't take down or more likely, winning 9-3 matches because he's giving up 3 TDs and then 3 escapes...it wouldn't really apply to the entire disagreement...right? That's why nhs was saying I should be giving you odds. So if I don't think he'll go down...and I think he might be the best Wrestler in the World...why would I want to bet on RT under THOSE circumstances? Edit-And in fact...I already addressed both of these; And...when you asked if I wanted to bet; And my response; There was other stuff in there about...why kids get ridden and all that, but this is the most pertinent.

I sincerely doubt that's the reason. He didn't want to participate the first time around...why would that change now that it's earlier in the season? Also, most coaches are happy for former Wrestlers getting good jobs. They take pride in that. Barring some agreement that Cael was going to step down...AND Cunningham...say Cunningham's kids were done with College and then said they'd turn it over to Taylor, I don't see any reason he'd have to be upset. I don't think it's as deep as people are making it... he just doesn't want to go to an event like that as it doesn't line up with his schedule and peaking in March...which I think it lame, but I don't have reason to think he's lying. He didn't like it...what, 15 years ago or whenever it was and he doesn't like it now. Still think they should go, not debating that. It...is silly to have it without them, but... whatever. The one thing, you said go and collect the 200K. I thought it was 1M to the winner. Is it 1M in the total purse?

Ya think it was your predictions I was taking issue with there bud? LOL...

So... to combat what you perceive to be PSU fans pre-emptive whining, you're pre-pre-emptively whining. And making the argument that Cael is actively trying to harm the sport...

Ok...so if Iowa wins it, it means nothing because he killed it...using your logic. Got it.

Yeah, no, you're right. College Wrestling is just overflowing with money! Why could they use a MILLION dollars!

LOL....what an asinine example of circular logic. Why aren't they participating in National Duels? Because he wants to actively hurt the sport. 'What do you base your logic on?' That he's not participating in the National Duels.' Oh, and you don't know if he did anything to help Stanford...I mean, nothing you RECALL, right? You've made a compelling argument

This is a stupid question and the onus isn't on me. You made the statement that he specifically ISN'T doing this BECAUSE it's "Good for the sport." So YOU are making the argument that he's actively acting against the sports best interest. That...is stupid in my opinion. You made the claim, not me. What does he do that's intentionally NOT for the "good of the sport?" I would say building PSU into a National Powerhouse, the NLWC constantly churning out wrestlers who represent the USA and win World/Olympic medals, that's good for the sport, but again, doesn't matter as you're the one making the argument.

You think Cael is adverse to doing things good for the sport? That THAT is in and of itself the reason? I just don't think it aligns with his larger plans on peaking in March, but...I also just think that's a weak reason. And he doesn't think it matters.

I can't imagine what the comments would be in 5 years if Aedon Sinclair went to Penn State. They'd also claim his skull grew and ignore that...it looks no different than it did when he was a kid.

Yeah...for exactly that reason. Do you think they want to know your location just for their own amusement? They want to know so they can test you whenever they feel like it. (Not...literally you, the royal you, I'm assuming you understand this). So...just NOT Wrestling doesn't mean you're immune from testing...which was the stupid theory. 'If he's not Wrestling, he can't be tested, that's why he's taking a year off.'

Oh...that clown show was embarrassing. How do they get SO much wrong? And why are they bringing him in to do a video presentation? But even setting that aside, it was just riddled with factual inaccuracies. Bringing up pictures from the Congo and then talking about this mass grave(Where nobody is buried). But...nobody really seems to mind. It's kinda like 'eh, that's Trump, funny hair, makes stuff up...par for the course.'

It's really just a weird move to not show up to this if you're PSU. Make a million dollars and you get some good early competition and... I don't know, it's just good for the sport. I really don't get why you'd NOT want to do this. But, this should be cool. Okie State vs Iowa...and then I'll take Ohio State. Iowa vs Ohio State Final this year...I think.

Ok...so lets circle back to the logic that Aaron Brooks is using this year to just take steroids to get bigger. Do we see now why that doesn't make any sense?

You do realize how stupid this bet is, right? I mean... I've said I think Penn State may have added the BEST Wrestler in the World as of right now(a bit hyperbolic, but not much). I'm not down on Ono...but you ALMOST certainly lose. He gives up a RT this year, I win(and not if he doesn't go down). He doesn't, you win. You're basically betting that he's not going to get ridden once. So, hypothetically, he can win a match 9-4(Crookham for example) and give up a RT once, you lose, I win. We can just make this a fun little wager. I'm not all that eager because...I'm also kinda rooting for the kid, this just seems pretty obvious to me.

Yeah, that's usually a short term thing. Immediately following a concussion. If someone is getting concussions to the point they can't work out or train...they gotta stop. It's not worth it.

Ok...then I win. I don't expect him to Wrestle a whole bunch of matches. I'd expect he'd only take down earlier in the season...if even then. I don't expect a 5-10 Wrestler in Rd 1 of the Black Knight to necessarily ride him, but vs the better Wrestlers, I think IF he goes down...he will. That's it.

So tell Gene that! I didn't want to make this about money. It was a simple disagreement that is pretty basic, but if he wants to put money on the line that Ono is not going to get ridden because he's...21, then so be it.

LOL...Thank You! Now we have other people bringing in odds! No, I'm saying it's not a bet if he chooses neutral(how is this confusing). That'd undermine your whole point. If it's so easy for him to get out because he's 21 years old...which is just a weird take, then he'll go down. That's it. It's simple. You wanting to make it one period is...really stupid...for you(also kinda confusing HOW that would work) Now you're eliminating the RT he will get from taking guys down? Yeah, I really have no idea how you would even make it one period? It's a simple premise. I don't think he's going to choose down vs tough riders. There's enough he's already got to pick up in short order. I think he's going to do the SMART thing and try and Wrestle on his feet. You can just watch Bastida or other guys who came over and hadn't Wrestled Folkstyle. It's not the age of physicality, it's...HAVING NEVER DONE IT....which, again, how is this even being debated? If it was the physicality, then you'd see kids having the same or more of an issue with hand fighting. It's about a mindset that's different in College, it's about stringing moves together, it's about not being able to use junk to be able to get out. It's a mental exercise as much or more than it is physical...and I think it's silly to think he's just not going to have any problem with that.

LOL...no. I didn't bring this up or start with this nonsense. This started with him arguing Ono won't get ridden and the only reason kids get ridden or have trouble wrestling on the mat is because they're not physical enough...but Ono is, so it won't be a problem. I don't agree(and it seems really basic IMO).

That was AWLAYS the stipulation. Follow along. this was a two-prong debate. 1-He's arguing it's the physicality of a 22 year old vs that of an 18 year old that makes the difference, ergo, Ono won't have a problem. Not the development, not the technique, just the difference in age. 2-I've NEVER changed my position with regard to Ono...and it's so basic, I'm not sure how it's even up for debate. He's going to be fine on his feet...but Mat Wrestling is going to be an issue. I DON'T believe it's about age, I think Blaze, Forrest and Lillendahl could get out and Wrestle on the mat a helluva lot better than Ono. That's not a slight...he's Wrestled a different style his entire career. So one person is arguing Ono won't have a problem getting out due to...his age and physical maturity, the other is arguing he will because it's something he's NEVER had to do and now he's Wrestling the best in the world at it. I'd also point out, the same person said he'd be fine on top because of his Gut Wrench...which again, is objectively absurd for obvious reasons. The primary being...it's not legal in this style. The other being, you don't have a guy just laying on the mat, you have someone actually moving and trying to come up and you have to develop a series of moves on top, not just a gut.