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Yes...I did. I know SOMETHING about McGirt v Oklahoma. I also ASKED the question, a genuine and honest question in good faith as to what authority ICE had there. But since you quoted me where I said it returned jurisdiction to most of Tulsa and Eastern Oklahoma(which it absolutely did as was the point of the lawsuit)....here's from the case. Yes, the U.S. Supreme Court's 2020 decision in McGirt v. Oklahoma significantly impacted the legal landscape of eastern Oklahoma by affirming that a substantial portion of the state remains Native American reservation land.natlawreview.com Background of the Case The case centered on Jimcy McGirt, a member of the Seminole Nation, who was convicted in an Oklahoma state court for crimes committed within the historical boundaries of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation. McGirt argued that the state lacked jurisdiction. .en.wikipedia.org+7law.cornell.edu+7theguardian.com+7 The Supreme Court's Decision On July 9, 2020, the Supreme Court ruled in a 5-4 decision that the land reserved for the Muscogee (Creek) Nation since the 19th century remains "Indian country" for purposes of federal criminal law. Justice Neil Gorsuch, writing for the majority, emphasized that Congress had never explicitly disestablished the reservation, and thus, the state's jurisdiction over crimes involving Native Americans on this land was invalid. natlawreview.com+5scotusblog.com+5indianlaw.org+5natlawreview.com+3theguardian.com+3axios.com+3 Scope of the Ruling The decision reaffirmed the reservation status of approximately 3 million acres in eastern Oklahoma, including parts of Tulsa. While it did not transfer ownership of land or alter civil governance structures, it clarified that, for certain legal purposes, notably criminal jurisdiction, these areas are recognized as Native American reservations. Implications and Subsequent Developments The ruling has had profound implications: ------ So... no, I didn't have any idea to what extent the federal authorities could go on that land, but I DID know that the stated lacked jurisdiction. I shared the part that I understood and ASKED about the part I was uncertain about. And yes, I'm SOOO sorry I gave you a clown emoji for your....stupid little...quip.

The dude brought up Pol Pot when talking about the biggest Domestic Terrorist threats to the United States today... If you ask him for a double blind study, he's... just going to assume you're talking about blind people....getting Lasik or eye transplants. 'So what, unless Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles do it, it doesn't count.'

I had 2 professors who shared political views. My History professor. He was a...~45 year old black guy(when I was a 20 year 19-23 year old). He taught the greatest class I've ever taken. It was 4 hours a day 4 days a week for...I think it was 6 weeks. It was WWI and then WWII and through Eisenhower, but it was nearly all about the great War and then WWII. The unintended consequences of WWI, the Treaty of Versailles and how it led to WWII, the "Stabbed in the Back Myth," in WWI that led to the uprising of Hitler. The German's who thought they could win the War, but the Government gave up on them. How they sowed the seeds of distrust in the Government, used force, the threat of force and Nationalism to bring the Nazi party to prominence. I didn't know his political views for...first year and a half that I knew him. Then he became my advisor and he was not just a conservative, but he was VERY conservative. But...we had good conversations, debates, arguments, whatever. He never brought that into the class room. And then my Freshmen year, I was in some stupid class... I don't even recall what it was, it was one my Coach set up for me to get an easy 4.0 to start the semester and a new professor was taking over this class. It was almost a healthy like class. I remember walking into class one day, I had a GF in the class, she punched me(playfully) and I grabbed her(again, playfully) and she was laughing the whole time...it was 15 minutes before class and she was joking saying she could beat me up. Think corny 18-year-old kids and so I held the sleeves of hear sweatshirt together with one hand and I said, Ok, lets see it, beat me up. Sadly, I only remember that because she reported me and reported that she thought the girl was in danger(didn't even have the guts to say something at the time...which is odd if you think someone is in danger). It was her first year and she was not fired, but rather not asked back the following year. That's not overtly political, but...it kinda is. You can tell most people don't have the first clue what College is like because they think it's just people there sitting around talking about the influence Pol Pot has on modern domestic terrorism and how that's a great thing and how we should burn the rich and how the French Revolution was cool, but we should mix it up a bit more with the Chinese Revolution...while throwing in a dash of socialism. It's actually kinda comical to listen to people talk about College despite...not having gone. Which is totally fine. There are a LOT of very important jobs that we don't have enough people available for right now that pay easy 6 figures and do not require a College degree. My point isn't you're dumb if you didn't go to College. Plenty of dumb people went to College. Hell, Jimmy may have gone(I mean, most likely one of the Trump U students, but still). Rather, don't watch the extreme, loud and obnoxious minority that you see on social media or the news and then extrapolate based off of THAT what YOU think College must be. it's...frankly embarrassing.

It would be closer to HURTING the United States Economy over 10 years than it'd EVER be to COSTING the United States 151B a year. You should know, if it's Jimmy, he's wildly misinformed and he's done little else but take someone's tweet and pass it off as their own. You should also just know he certainly didn't put ANY thought in it. The organization that came up with that number...pretty much just made it up. They includes NATURALIZED CITIZENS. So..."Lawful" citizens of the United States.... but if one of their parents was here illegally, THEN they count. Why? BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON THIS ORGANIZATION EXISTS. FAIR... Federation for American Immigration Reform; 1-So...now with that in mind, understand, they're INCLUDING Elon Musks 12 children, Barron Trump. Both Melania and Elon were "Unlawfully" here. Elon was here on a student visa. He dropped out. Once he did that, he was obligated to report that and return to South Africa. Melania was here on a Tourist or Business Visa. She was explicitly banned from engaging in paid work. The difference... which I'd hope you get, but I understand Jimmy reads this is a...say British Businessman can come over here to try and secure funding, sell a product, whatever. He CANNOT come over here and take a job. So despite the fact that Barron Trump was born to Donald Trump and Elon Musk's children were born to a...harem of women, they were illegally in the Country at one point so "FAIR" counts them as well. 2-They do not include the HUNDREDS of millions in taxes they pay into the system that they will NEVER receive benefits from. That just...doesn't get added to how much they "cost" the United States. 3-They are CONSUMERS. They make money here and then they...spend money here. 4-This is the one that would REALLY screw the American Economy. If you took out every undocumented worker out of the Economy, it would cost 5 TRILLION over a decade and drop the GDP by an estimated 3%. Who do you think is going to work on the farms, harvesting the produce, working construction... And that's before you add the ASTRONOMICAL amount to go and find every person who has overstayed a travel visa or who didn't show up to an asylum hearing. On top of that, they have a LOWER crime rate than American Born Citizens(though circling back, "FAIR" doesn't count American born despite the...ya know, constitution, so that's apparently become a point of contention). You want to find the criminals...yeah, of course. You want to get rid of everyone who is undocumented...ok. Understand, it won't happen. It will decimate the economy...and while people who are utterly clueless like @JimmySpeakskeeps using the numbers from "FAIR," which is kinda like trusting a study from the CCP on human rights violations(which according to them, they've NEVER committed one violation)... we're all capable of using some common sense. Economic Costs GDP Reduction: Undocumented immigrants constitute approximately 5% of the U.S. workforce. Their removal could lead to a 2.6% decrease in GDP, amounting to nearly $5 trillion over a decade. unidosus.org Tax Revenue Loss: In 2022, undocumented immigrant households contributed $46.8 billion in federal taxes and $29.3 billion in state and local taxes. Their absence would significantly reduce government revenues Deportation Costs: The direct cost of deporting all undocumented immigrants is estimated at $400 billion, PER YEAR to accomplish the widespread deportations that Trump wants. At a time when we're suffering from low Birthrates...which only look sustainable because we only compare ourselves to China... who threw out a generation of little girls because of their 1 child policy, people really think it's a good idea to just get rid of EVERY single non-citizen? Even those those who came from legal ports of entry, those who are working, and again, those who are some of the MOST essential workers who help harvest the food we eat... but you want to throw them all out, fine. Just please don't insult anyone's intelligence by saying you're doing it for safety or doing it for financial reasons. The financial cost is catastrophic to the United States Government. As I said when Trump introduced the highest Tariffs, since 1920(higher than Smoot-Hawley) and we saw the markets absolutely tank, MAINLY the Bond Markets which are still in big-big trouble(which lasted 2.5 days and was also crippling our economy... if we were to do what some people are suggesting, it will be just as crippling as TACO's tariffs. One last thing, lets JUST look at Nebraska. Potential Economic Risks of Mass Deportations Labor Shortages: Nebraska faces one of the worst labor shortages in the country, with only 39 workers available for every 100 jobs . Removing undocumented workers could exacerbate this issue, leading to operational challenges across various industries.nprillinois.org Economic Disruption: The departure of undocumented workers could lead to decreased productivity and increased labor costs, potentially resulting in higher prices for consumers and financial strain on businesses .theguardian.com Broader Implications Beyond immediate economic impacts, mass deportations could disrupt communities, separate families, and place additional burdens on social services. The loss of a significant portion of the workforce may also deter investment and hinder economic growth.

No, he did not. You can say it 1000 times 'lil Jimmy, it doesn't make it any more of a lie. This is a study done by an organization AGAINST immigration as a whole. If you had even the slightest curiosity about ANYTHING you mindlessly repeat, you'd realize that's a fake number. That literally includes naturalized American Citizens(so for example...Barron Trump). Anyone born to someone who was here illegally. Elon Musk, HIS twelve kids would likewise be included(even the trans kid who turned him into a weird MAGA moron before MAGA(like last time) went back on EVERY promise to cut the deficit....Something that has happened every time we've had a Democrat as Commander in Chief since the early 80s. Guess how many Republicans have cut the deficit since 1980? ONE. Bush Sr. And he was run out of office for it! But back to the claim that...it's nonsense.

LOL...the Tampon Tim guys...the same guys who are probably too insecure to go buy their wives tampons because...'it's icky!' The man served his country for over two decades, he was a teacher, football coach, he was just a happy, nice guy. Not the guy I'd pick(Mark Kelly wins the election IMO) but...whatever.

It was a little creep how the guy filming it just randomly brought up that he thought they were stopping some human trafficking despite not having a clue what was going on. I honestly think a lot of people WANT there to be more horrific stories of trafficking so they can claim these INSANE numbers they believe to be true...are in fact true. Also very much an off-topic question, but I heard someone say this is "Native land," and...while it's not, it may have been, but...it's just not despite the pandering some do, I wonder if undocumented aliens could just go live in Tulsa or Oklahoma? After the McGirt v. Oklahoma ruling, it found that the United States had entered a treaty and they'd broken that treaty. I'm sure most heard about this, but it returned jurisdiction to...MOST of Tulsa and most of the Eastern part of Oklahoma to Native Americans. So...would ICE even be able to go in there? If I remember correctly, the Native American's basically agreed to maintain the status quo by in large, but I'm just curious if ICE or other federal agencies are allowed on there. This dates back to when it was the "Indians" land and the United States signed a treaty. I just wonder how strong that ruling was

It doesn't matter if there are people with Auto-immune disease, tough guys don't wear masks! Thems the rules!

The burden of proof is on those arguing in the affirmative. But, I'll play along. Empirical Evidence and Exhaustive Search If you've got thousands of years of this EVIL entity on Earth, taking all forms, but absolutely zero empirical evidence, logic dictates hat thing does not exist. Prove to me there aren't Elephants in the wild who taste like Peanut Butter and Chocolate. See how absurd that is? There were a dozen religions before Christianity with the miraculous conception, a resurrection and then an all powerful evil foe. Christianity just took that playbook, altered it and then made some massive mistakes. One of them being, in the original writing(decades to centuries after the death of Christ) in ancient Hebrew, Mary, Jesus' Mother is referred to as "the Young girl Mary." The "Young Girl," and "The ***I have a limited vocabulary***" were close enough that when they translated it, it became the ***I have a limited vocabulary***. In fact, the Bible is edited every year and is so far removed from it's original version...a group of glorified editors deciding what to put in and what to take out. But belief is free. Go ahead. Just don't turn it into a silly argument. "Well, I can't answer why he's real, so you answer why this entity that there is zero empirical evidence of is not."

LOL... yeah, and they're SO convinced everyone is out to get them, but Trump REALLY cares about them. I will say... the left just blew the last one. You're handing them a LAYUP over something we all know isn't right. Males should NOT participate athletically against Females. People even like to cite these rare athletic feats that Men are inferior to Women at...I think it's like the super marathons where some women can compete and then...like long distance swimming in cold water...but it really should pretty simple and not a fight the left should be at all invested in.

Right. I was also going to include the death penalty(or frankly the wood chipper if I'm being honest) but that's controversial...as is mental health, his PTSD for Military, a dozen other things that in other threads could go in a political direction. I thought though...SURELY on this one particular thread, given the scope of the... senseless tragedy, we could not bicker and focus on ONE thing only. Sadly, I was wrong. Hopefully, moving forward... we can avoid that. These poor young girls and the family grieving their loss. A mother who's world just got destroyed. Edit-I'm also going to add the GoFundMe for the funeral costs... because...I want to. https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-whitney-decker/donations?attribution_id=sl%3A34ef9113-c3d7-43de-939d-f8c40ac3c602 This...is ALL the thread should be about;

I don't understand this reference. Did Muller's wife have an affair with an immigrant?

Yeah, this is things that happen in a 3rd World Country. We don't "toss" people in Jail because we "bet" they had knowledge of someone else's crimes. The wife gave her phone and they were not "arrested," they were detained by ice. What type of nonsense is this? LITERALLY punishing the Sons(and daughters) for the Sins of the father based on a wild guess?

Mark Kelly is my choice. I liked Fetterman, but he's had too many issues. Kelly should have been the VP nominee. Beshear is another candidate. Wes Moore. Mark Cuban could be one. JB would have to lose 30-40 pounds to win the election. Fat guys normally don't do well...the current POTUS being the exception(I of course mean in the modern era, not going back to the likes of Taft). There will be others. Ossoff would be an interesting candidate. This is all assuming that Trump doesn't "run" again as he's said he would.

Yeah... you're just Jimmy at this point. I preempted that so this DIDN'T turn into anything about race or mental health issues(which...I think you struggle with) or anything else and DIDN'T bring up Politics and you still whined. This is about the death of 3 innocent little children, not whatever pettiness you're dealing with. I guess I said political. Just the word. This...this is exactly what I didn't want it devolving into. Again, people can make anything political, so it was a way of just basically asking that ONE thread that...shouldn't be divisive in anyway.

And then there was a Republican oversight committee that determined that there was no institutional wrongdoing and the INDIVIDUALS(3 low level employees canvassing) were held responsible. In fact...the house applauded FEMA in addressing it; https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-applauds-fema-for-holding-bad-actors-accountable-for-political-discrimination-against-trump-supporters/?utm_source=chatgpt.com So the claim that they were "withholding funds to give to illegals," was false. But it's always telling who just laps up Trump's stump speeches in lieu of the facts. And if you have a problem with this, take it up with the Republican Congress who came to these conclusions(or again, who denied 20B in additional funding just before the Hurricanes and who have since slashed the budged and personnel even more). If the Hurricane victims got "nothing," with nothing being 2.7B, I'm curious what would be "something."

Are you so stupid that you think we're talking JUST about hurricanes? You don't grasp the impact that additional WARNING for a hurricane or other types of storms may be adversely impacted? But no, you're right. Complain about Fema's responses and the money they were allowed to give out LEGALLY for immediate needs, complain that they actually have to file for paper work to be reimbursed for additional losses ALL while you clap like mindless seals when people talk about WASTE and FRAUD(even objecting to having to identify oneself) do all of this right after you cut FEMA funding by 20 Billion at a time when the scope and scale of storms are getting worse each year, THEN blame Biden because you're too stupid to fact check Trump's stump speeches. THEN applaud the 1800 Fema employees and cut another 3.5B dollars from the Underfunded agency and make a statement as stupid as, 'er....they I'll bet they're aren't any unexpected Hurricanes," you clown. AS we all know, Hurricanes... that's the ONLY thing FEMA is responsible for. This is the point where YOU don't believe your own argument, you just feel like you need to make one and that's how you come up with these type of arguments. Also how you get "Pol Pot," when looking for the biggest Domestic Terrorist threats.

It definitely would and... with the "hate crime" aspect, he'd definitely be looking at the death penalty. And I hope he doesn't get it, but if someone succumbs from their injuries...let him have it. Even if someone lives with their injuries for the next decade and they die as a result of this, they can still charge him for capital murder(and they should).

Yeah, they generally reserve the death penalty for when people are killed.

God you're a douche bag. I didn't think I did, but I'm glad after making a fool of yourself on other threads, you felt the need to do exactly what I thought you'd do when talking about the death of 3 little girls. But by all means, point out what you had a problem with where it was more important for you to argue with me and comment rather than respond to the topic(or just not respond)?

LOL...is the last one still a thing? I'm kidding, but you see so many guys who immediately look to dive in on that leg and create a scramble. I thought that was one of the things Starocci and Brooks were so good at. They stuff a shot, they were tough and physical in that front head and they beat you up and got the most simple scores...just a little go behind. Lots of others do that as well, but... those two came to mind. I split by eye so bad in a match, they couldn't get the bleeding to stop. This was out at Fargo and it was early, I was up...pretty good, maybe 7-0, not a tough match, but just couldn't get it stopped. A father who was real active in the sport and just a great dude...he comes up and he has a bad and says he can stitch it up. I remember him saying, "won't even scar, you'll still be as good...well, you won't get any uglier," when asking. And he did it, wrapped it up and...it was good. He also used Super Glue. Honestly, the thing that hurt the most was him pouring the water and then athletic wipes to clean it. It's not a particularly sensitive place though.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/3-young-sisters-reported-missing-washington-after-leaving/story?id=122419639 From JJ and TJ Watt's old High School, this guy, former Wrestler... it APPEARS as though he took the lives of his three beautiful daughters. The mental health issues and PTSD(he was in the Military and I've already heard some comments about his Mental Health) will be thrown out there...but this is just as selfish as you can be. Air out your own Grey Matter if you absolutely must(which I generally don't endorse, but would have in this case). Just brutal. I don't want to get political...we can all agree on this one, but this seems like the result of an ugly divorce and this guy was down and homeless and trying to hurt his wife... but the old Golda comment seems apt here. He hated his wife more than he loved his own daughters...PRESUMABLY. No actual confirmation he actually committed this atrocity... but he picked them up for visitation...they were never seen alive again.

EXACTLY! The 3 point stance...there's nothing you can do. Also, that Purler style of Wrestling, you're going to end up leaking from the head once in a while. Just part of the sport.

No, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this IMO, I don't think it started with JB, I think it's been around forever and I think as long as you're using your head and hands as your first line of defense...I don't know what you're supposed to do. It's so hard to get guys out of position, ideally, you'd plant your head in his cheat and shoot, but guys are blocking with their head. There may be some cases that are egregious, but the one at 16:45 was nothing. Just a good shot. Cael did that, Joe Williams did that, Johnny Hendricks and Kyle Snyder...and here Vito(just one guy from most of the top Colleges so this doesn't turn into another complaint about on school). Blast double. Sometimes, you get blasted in the dome. It happens.

You really think he'll be able to hold 57KG? He looks like he's 4-5 inches taller than Lee... and he's not exactly physically mature. Why can't Lee be the "future" at 57KG? He should have at least another cycle. Did I miss something?