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Is the cooling thing now to do a heart to the crowd? Seems like all the guys are doing it

from Izzy trained website Real Woods – 3x NCAA All-American (Stanford, University of Iowa) Jordan Blanton – 3x NCAA All-American (University of Illinois) Tony Ramos – NCAA Champion and All-American (University of Iowa) Will Lewan – 3x NCAA All-American (University of Michigan) and Cadet World Champion Dylan Ragusin – NCAA All-American (University of Michigan) Mikey Caliendo – 3x NCAA All-American (North Dakota State, University of Iowa) Jack Dechow – NCAA All-American (Old Dominion University)

Some of the Harvey Twisters that I can think of (the Illinois people surely could add to this list) are Steve, TJ and Joe Williams, Tony Davis, BJ Futrell, Cassio Pero, TC Dantzler, Isaiah White, Yahya Thomas, Kamal Bey, Nate Jackson, DJ Washington, Josh Ogunsanya, Nassir Bailey, Kordell Norfleet, Albert White

I was thinking Meatloaf LOL

Who would be Askren's competition? The Harvey Twister's had a ton of hammers come through. Young guns has put out a lot of hammers.

Arnold needs to be at 174 next year. Max looked way bigger than him.

Have you ever watched Teemer wrestle before?

Yep. He lives on guys legs but can never finish.

A lot of high level wrestling in this dual. Both teams came to scrap. tOSU had a good showing.

That’ll help his case. Yes, he had a great gray shirt year. Had the nice win over Abas tonight and that is by far his best win thus far this season.

Ah that makes sense.

Is there a reason why Henson is not in the RPI?

125- Ramos 133- Ayala 141- Mendez 149- Henson 157- Shapiro 165- Mesenbrink 174- O'Toole 184- Keckeisen 197- Buchanan 285- Steveson

Agreed.

Whether it is direct or indirect makes no difference if it is still influencing seeding. The facts of objective reality are that it does matter who you lose to for purpose of seeding. Who you beat is of greater emphasis under the current seeding criteria but to act that it does not matter who you lose to is to ignore that 5 of the 7 seeding criteria are affected (whether directly or indirectly maketh no difference to me) by losses.

What claim would Whalen have? He does not even posses a top 20 win.

Who you lose to is also factored into Head-to-head, results against common opponents, and coaches ranking. So in addition to two that you listed (RPI and win %), 5 of the 7 categories are affected to who you lose to.

125- Flynn dec Cruz 3-0 Minn 133- Ayala dec Wells 3-3 141- Vombaur mdec Schriever/Block 7-3 Minn 149- Parco mdec Roberts 7-7 157- Teemer dec Askey 10-7 Iowa 165- Caliendo dec Sparks 13-7 Iowa 174- Kennedy mdec Whiting 17-7 Iowa 184- McEnally dec Arnold 17-10 Iowa 197- Buchanan dec Salazar 20-10 Iowa 285- Steveson tf Kueter 20-15 Iowa

Maybe UNC with Rob Koll?

Losses matter though. Lamer lost to Stiles. Whalen lost to Alvarez. Stiles lost to Willochell. Paniro may get a high seed if he wins out but he is the only one I would see possibly jumping a B1G guy (unless one of the three B1G guys finishes 4th or lower at B1G's). I suspect it will go Henson, B1G 1st, B1G 2nd, Paniro if he wins out, B1G 3rd, McNeil...

I am having a hard time finding a scenario where Parco gets the top seed unless SVN drops a match. SVN's remaining schedule is D'Emilio (tOSU, Webster (Illinois) and Owen (American). Parco has Roberts (Minnesota), Cartella (NW) and Young (OSU). Lovett has Torres (Indiana) and Ruble (Purdue). Hard to see any of these guys dropping a match.

Has a guy with a bum shoulder, I subscribe to this methodology

With Parco and Teemer aren't they also technically "grad transfers"?

Against a nationally ranked opponent as well

You don’t get to count Joey’s wins for Marcus. Marcus has enough of his own good wins lol