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By your logic, yes

Ahh yes the ol' Tim Tebow argument

Pretty easy to extrapolate if you don't go down the transfer/recruiting butterfly effect and just pretend Kerk and Dean are at school X. It comes out to a -20 point swing leaving Penn State at 117.5, or 45 points ahead of Iowa. Or if you want to pretend that the wheel didn't spin and Beard = PSU, Dean = Cornell, Kerk = tOSU, and Nevills = PSU then this is how the math checks out: Beard finished R12: 1 win (+1 MD) on the front side, 2 wins ((0.5*2)+1MD) in consis) = 4 points Nevills finished R16: 1 decision the front side + .5 in consis = 1.5 points If you want to say "but but but Cornell!" then please remember that Dean beat Cardenas in the 7th place match so it would not have been enough to beat Iowa. Cardenas scored 6.5 points and Dean scored 7. +0.5 Cornell The big winner would have been tOSU +19.5 from Kerk and -1.5 from Orndorff (R12). That would have moved tOSU from 4th into 2nd place with 88.0 points. Therefore: PSU 117.5 [-21 points, remains winner] tOSU 88.0 [+17.0 ↑2 places] Iowa 82.5 [±0.0 ↓1 place] Cornell 80.5 [+0.5 ↓1 place]

2018 Zac won greco juniors and Danny (165) won free juniors. Both are much more inconsistent in folkstyle at the NCAA level than international styles. Illinois RTC has established itself as a great greco shop with Brian Medlin leading the charge. Kamal Bey, Max Nowry, Ellis Coleman, Tanner Farmer, the Braunagels, and now Luke Luffman (4th at the US Open) are all resident athletes and becoming/ are household names in the greco community.

You know who else is from Cincinnati? 2x AA Lucas Byrd who wrestles at... you guessed it! University of Illinois.

There's a dude named Gable. I think he takes it in a tight race. . . . By first period tech fall.

Blades is originally from IL

After realizing that Illinois is a wrestling hotbed (4 world team members vs 1 at former hotbed Pennsylvania) I thought this is a more relevant topic to discuss. Sorry not sorry James. Zane Richards? Kamal Bey? Zac Barunagel? Joe Rau?

What if Starocci gets 4 this year then comes back to attempt to be the only 5x D1 champ in NCAA history?

Narikuni is moving to greco? That's weird as all get-out. Isn't the JPN greco team just a step above where the US currently is? I remember they had a medal at Tokyo but wasn't that drought as long as ours until Hancock?

He’s 29 (so is Richards) and that might as well be 89 years in career 57kg guys. Most can’t even hold it more than three years in college. Might have been a tougher cut than years past? Or maybe there is something in the water at Champaign-Urbana. I’ll go with the latter.

I don’t doubt Lee. I doubt every 65 that we send out.

Brooks is going to make a very large salary leading his mega church one day. He might even do well enough to fund his very own RTC if he plays his cards right.

Musukaev is a bronze match gatekeeper. Getting teched by him, with years of scouting, is very discouraging. I hope for better results and if they hit it is the first match off the scales. A better view is: hey! We broke the medal drought last year! And 65 is still a shallow clusterf*ck domestically

Lee got worked by Musukaev. If he can’t gas him then, well…

Ah, omission by ignorance.

Retherford, Snyder, and Taylor are the only vets. I have a bad feeling it may be a down year even without Russia. 4 medals, 2 golds.

If you want to be at Final X, if you want to be on the world team, if you don't buy into what other places are selling... You go to Illinois!!!!

Which facet? Because tOSU can only teach one for elite recruits and they certainly aren't taking them to the next level. This now concludes my PSU love.

I just can't see him sucked down to 143.3 either. I literally don't see an ounce of body fat on him. That's a tough break and "tweeners" get the shit end of the stick

You think he's going down?!? He's like 5% body fat as is. Better to chance the gauntlet with a year of healthy gains methinks

Only one person took me up on it. Thank god. Also, I think you are as disappointed as I am that Pantaleo seems to have been surpassed in what coulda shoulda woulda have been "his" year.