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I haven't heard any more news but the evidence seems clear from transfers and coaching hires. Most prominent benefactors from the closure in a personnel sense: Kent State The Golden Flashes hired Josh Moore from Cleveland State as their new head coach and siphoned off four wrestlers from the Vikings. Cleveland State departures that I have seen confirmed are as follows: 125: Ruben Lorenzana (Kent State) 133: Nick Molchak (Kent State), Peyton Costa (Clarion) 141: Ethan Mitchell (Glenville State) 149: Dylan Layton (Rider), Andrew Parish (Findlay), Connor Saylor (Gannon) 157: Reese Stephen (Kent State) 165: Tate Geiser (Edinboro), Connor Holm (Glenville State) 184: Steven Duffy (Kent State) 197: Xander Myers (Ohio State) 285: Mason Cover (CSU Bakersfield) ------------------------------ Separately thought we should honor the All Americans from Cleveland State wrestling past: Dan Carcelli - 4th place - 142 lbs - 1996 David Zahoransky - 8th place - 142 lbs - 1986, 1988 John Ciotoi - 3rd place - 134 lbs - 1979 Tobey Matney - 5th place - 158 lbs - 1979 Tom Cavanaugh - 2nd place - 150 lbs - 1973 Tony DeGiovanni 5th place - 134 lbs - 1972, 6th place - 134 lbs 1973 Frank Yoo - 3rd place - 142 lbs - 1972 Paul Azzaniti - 6th place - Unlimited - 1971 Lee Barylski - 5th place - 142 lbs - 1970 Boldfaced above indicates a division one all-american. The remainder are D2 or D3.

He stole from little kids, at the very least... and that isn't even getting in to the $hit he allegedly did. Bad, evil, and incompetent are all not good. Once you cross a certain threshold, unacceptable is unacceptable.

Davino is a DAWG. IMO he is a title threat. Angelo, Davino, PJ Duke and Lockett are your logical freshman title threats. The rest I wouldn't bet on but there's a reason why you wrestle the matches.

I appreciate your effort, so I am gonna restate my position as well as I can, and if someone points out an instance where I was implying something else I'll apologize. "In a world where we are all moving forward productively, you should not criticize someone for saying what they think, especially if you should have inferred that belief already." -Me. If you don't support his belief that is a different and much deeper question than whether he should have said it or not. Aside from that, I think Brooks has 1.5 feet in the a$$hole camp, I think he's immature and narcissistic in his perception of religion and use of his platform, and I think his public statements are self serving and do nothing to promote the causes he claims to be advocating.

If we're talking pure quantity of terrible posts, I have more than #2 & #3 combined...

I'm glad Cleveland State was at least able to get a national qualifier with Daniel Bucknavich for their final season.

Honestly, he speaks for himself. No one takes this guy seriously. He is habitually blasphemous while being a ped user of the highest level.

The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. Ronald Reagan

not claiming to be an expert by any means but I found a couple studies, here and here, and my understanding is that DHEA can mess with the T/E ratio, the primary method that a lot of tests use in attempting to determine the presence of exogenous steroids. So DHEA has a similar effect on these tests that the steroids do. The difference is, the tests are not, from my understanding, always able to detect the substance that caused the increased T/E ratio (ie, the direct agent), rather they more often just detect the result. DHEA is used as a masking agent because these tests CAN detect the DHEA in addition to the elevated T/E ratio, allowing the offending athlete to claim that the wacked up ratio was due to the DHEA, since it was detected in the test, and not due to the steroids, which aren't always showing up directly.

third attempt to drag politics into the topic....give it a rest dude.

i think the argument is "I did something wrong, but it didn't help me at all so it doesn't warrant a punishment".

Do they take into account off season pickleball results? I would guess same answer.

I was just about to post this! tough has hell, lots of upside. Injuries, and I heard he is not a big fan of school.

lol, TBH I’m kinda skeptical that whatever he did was so bad that no one would take him, or else he probably would have been in the news.

Oh don't worry, I'm not going away - just strategically set the bar really low so I look like I'm getting better at this

Hey everyone, I want to share a truly bizarre video that Iranians have been laughing at for years—mostly out of shock and disbelief. About twenty years ago, the German national soccer team came to Tehran to play against Iran. Among the spectators were some Iranians who, strangely enough, admire Hitler and believe in certain delusional myths about him. For example, they think that because Iranians are “Aryans,” Hitler had deep respect for them—this kind of historical fantasy. These fans, totally unaware of German culture and how Germans actually feel about Hitler, assumed that Germans (still?) admire him. So, in what they thought was a respectful gesture toward their “honorable opponents,” they did something that left the German players and fans at the stadium absolutely horrified. They gave a Nazi salute—during the German national anthem Here is the video The people holding German flags are German fans—completely frozen after the Iranians' "Heil Hitler" moment. They're just staring in disbelief

Any notion that human behavior is a constant is childish. you're just being a silly snake

It's not and has never been about some fictional generalization about who/what we "like" or "don't like." We are all human. And we all know people are capable of doing good things one day, and terrible things the next. And vice versa. C'mon - don't be a weirdo. Any notion that human behavior is a constant is childish.

One of the best posts I’ve read in this forum in some time.

you could just self deport... you have thought about it

there is some serious goal post shifting going on. Whether or not Brooks should be criticized for stating something he believes is a different subject than whether everything he's every said is in good taste and in keeping with the humility his claims imply he should be embodying.

Does Brown have any ties to @BigRedFan? That could be it.

WrestleStat's formula has Koy Hopke ridiculously low at #162. Probably penalizing him for missing his entire true freshman year due to surgery. He has freestyle wins over #5 Nathan Taylor, #21 Daniel Herrara, #36 Jarrett Stoner. Minnesota teammate Bennett Tabor is at #19 and Hopke is probably the slight favorite to win the spot based on results/common opponents.

If I were on primetime ESPN and asked what it took to win a national title, and chose that moment to say "It was all me, there is no God, no Allah, no nothin'. The only way you can reach your goals is to believe in yourself." Then yes, I would scoff at myself.

Hmm. Mark Ruffalo played the investigative reporter who uncovered the catholic church scandal in Spotlight. Mark Ruffalo played wrestling legend Dave Schultz who was murdered by lunatic John DuPont in Foxcatcher. Mark Ruffalo played the lawyer who uncovered the DuPont chemical spill in Dark Waters. Maybe Mark Ruffalo is who we need to solve this situation. Or maybe we need somebody to step up who can later be portrayed by Mark Ruffalo in a movie?

Or... you could have kept your mouths shut, listen to the coaches, and generally perform as relatively normal parents and student athletes...

Incorrect. He is saying what his beliefs are. He speaks for right wing Christians. He does not speak for all Christians.

in all of those cases they were dealt with and the coach was removed. i mean, it's not a good thing that they even happened, but i'm not sure what you're looking for. they were dealt with, and it doesn't seem like there's a plague of these instances. the alleged Starocci situation isn't even in the same bucket. (coach/athlete)

it's not ad hominen ffs. there's plenty of substance in there. you poptarts aren't thinking this through and want to be outraged. Brooks stated what the Christian beliefs are. Muslims state what Islamic beliefs are. if it's an atrocity, what do you say for yourselves when you scoff at the existence of any higher power? are you telling all muslims and christians they're full of sh!t? wow. what an affront! Muslims: "Muhammed is the true prophet!" Wokesters: "well, that's their belief" Christians: "Jesus is the one true prophet!" Wokesters: "that is an affront to muslims!" Wokesters: "All religion is contrived. simply hogwash" you haven't thought this all the way through, brainiacs. i can't believe you just offended believers of all faiths. how dare you.