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It makes it meaningless don't you think? If athletes are getting paid then why would they get free tuition etc.? They should probably pay full cost like everybody else.

Hughes will AA at 133 this year, mark that one down.

Anybody remember Real Pro Wrestling from like 20 some years ago? We're heading down that path. 8 teams baby!!

re: AJ Heeg and Oklahoma State guys. His dad posted on Twitter that John Smith was not considered his coach at that point in time - it was interim coach Coleman Scott until May 11th. So the clock starts again from there.

No one understands swimming. Even knownothing's "knowledge" of the sport can be questioned. George Carlin would say: get out of the tub and go take a shower!

Yes he was. He was the Head Coach of a major D-1 program on the rise. Now he’s unemployed.

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Interesting article on Dake today about turning down a massive offer to coach. He will be the next big name head coach next Spring. Appears this is the final ride. As a side note - Read that it was Ok State before Smith decided to come back for one more year. However, I need to find where that was said. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/24/us-olympian-turned-down-massive-job-to-pursue-gold-medal-dream.html

Joe Smith would like word.

I kinda hate all this new attention. Where were you folks when Jamal Parks spent his entire sr year setting up a shot?

It should be from the time the new coach is named. If the old coach is changing schools, that’s one thing, but Smith retired, and the wrestlers can’t go with him.

Someone gave $1,000 today. Great!!!!!!!

Perhaps this will drive universities to focus much more on academics and use sports as a means to enhance physical well being and the character of its students as they prepare for more traditional careers. Will be more like club sports. Relatively low cost … but no longer a major distraction. Will also find ways to cut bloat and reduce the major arms race expenditures on athletic facilities. (Maybe for some. I bet a few will really lean into this type of ruling and be more like, and care more about being, a professional sports business, than a university.)

Clearly he is already starting the descent and transforming his body. This just shows his dedication to making 197. Looks like he’s taking it seriously.

Channeling your enter @Wrestleknownothing?

but vs 97kg?

Even the illegals know Biden is a fuggup. Come across sayin, dude needs to close the border.

anyway to prove this guy isn't cinnabon

They are doing work that generates revenue for the University, just like the faculty and staff. Education is not an unusual benefit for an employer to provide. My employer is a for profit company and they pay me a salary and also have a tuition reimbursement benefit. A college presumably can provide the education at a lower cost than other employers.

M2 now stands for money magic, or magic money. I always get it confused.

It means bad news for all programs outside of the B1G and SEC, and for non-revenue sports across the board. Probably very bad news for a lot of athletic department staff. The settlement is $2.8B over the next 10 years in NIL backpay to athletes. All D1 athletes going back to 2016 are eligible to join the settlement class and receive a share. The NCAA will be paying 40% ($1.12B) of the total cost. P5 schools will pay 24% ($672M), and the rest of the D1 will be on the hook for 36% ($1.01B). Outside of the backpay, schools will need to setup a revenue-sharing framework with its athletes. Details TBD, but power conference schools are making plans to share 20% or more of their media revenues with players every year. This will further separate the Big Ten and SEC, who has the fattest media deals, and complicate things for everyone else. IIRC the B1G contract comes out to about $80M per school. The Big12 and ACC are about half that amount. And non-P5 schools won't have much of a pie to share. While it keeps the NCAA intact, they are going to have to run pretty lean and make cutbacks like the athletic departments. At this point, I guess anything is on the table to make the numbers work: shortened seasons, smaller roster sizes, higher ticket prices, fewer trophies, more outside sponsors, discontinued sports, staff reductions, delays in facilities upgrades... hard to imagine wrestling coming out of all this in a better spot. College sports is broken.

You're crazy if you think most football and basketball teams make money.

Has anyone suggested he make the US team so he can get some sponsors and pay himself....

This will mean the end of competitive D1 wrestling, not that it's actually been all that competitive for the last 20 years or so since realistically only 3 or 4 teams even have a chance of making the podium anyway. Now schools will just buy the best wrestlers. Who has the most money in D1 that has a wrestling program? Ohio State does. Michigan is 2nd among schools with wrestling programs. Coaching will be at a premium, but the little schools will all suffer. I predict over time that the rankings of the best wrestling schools will line up fairly precisely with those schools revenue with minor variations due to the ability of the coaches.

57 KG - Spencer Lee, USA 65 KG - Zain Retherford, USA 74 KG - Kyle Dake, USA 86 KG - Aaron Brooks, USA 97 KG - Kyle Snyder, USA 125 KG - Mason Parris, USA

I'm not rooting against any of the guys representing the USA. That stated it wouldn't break my heart if Brooks lost to a Muslim in the gold medal match. I guess that would mean the Muslim is better with GAWWWWWD, huh?

I am not 100% sure what to make of this so I thought I would just throw it out there for discussion. There has been a lot of talk (understatement alert) on this board about the decreasing number of bouts wrestlers wrestle these days. Some see water fowl wherever they look, while others see wisdom. After all this is a sport with a near guarantee of injury. I decided to take a look at bouts wrestled throughout the years for NCAA champions. Champions only, because we mostly worry about seeing the best wrestle more often. And it was a heavy lift finding historical totals. I also selectively chose years (roughly every 5 years, but not always) because there are nearly 900 champions at this point. Think of this as my own form of load management. The Data My Observations The early years were so vey different. Travel was expensive and slow, making it very inefficient. So it just did not happen. Many teams did not bother attending the NCAAs in the years it was not near by. So usage rates were very low. Prior to WW2 NCAA champions typically wrestled fewer than 10 bouts. With 3, or maybe 4, coming at the tournament, "regular" seasons were virtually non-existent. It is also possible that they existed in greater numbers, but there just is no record of them. Who is to say? In the post war era, there was a steady increase in the number of bouts through the late 1960's. But things really took off in the mid-70's. This also corresponds with the peak period for team counts. Hmmmm. The moment continued until bout totals peaked in the late 90's before beginning the steady decline we have all felt and bemoaned. 1980 was a weird and wonderful outlier of a year. Cal State Bakersfield wrestlers must not have attended a single class. The Roadrunners had two champs that year, Joe Gonzales and John Azevedo, who wrestled 55 and 53 bouts, respectively. All wins, by the way. With Howard Harris of Oregon State also putting it on the line 46 times (all wins), the west coast was THE hotbed of wrestling. 154 up, 154 down. Have we found a natural equilibrium (fewer teams means fewer opponents)? Or do we slide further from here (where for art thou holiday tournament?)? What is the right balance between usage and giving the people what they want?

I get it. You are a cowboy fan. Have to back your guys. But if they want to keep tweeting like this they should start riding sidesaddle.

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Sax Graduate St. Robert, MO NDSU Oklahoma 141 13 Cleveland Belton Graduate Corona, CA Oregon State Oklahoma 157 15 Chase Saldate Senior Gilroy, CA Michigan State Michigan 125 17 Cooper Flynn Junior Seymour, TN Virginia Tech Minnesota 174 17 Clayton Whiting Sophomore Oconto Falls, WI Missouri Minnesota 285 17 Dorian Crosby Graduate Erie, PA Bucknell Gannon 141 20 Isaiah Powe Sophomore Mount Olive, AL Chattanooga 133 21 Ethan Oakley Junior Trinity, NC App State North Carolina 184 21 Brock Delsignore Junior Ballston Lake, NY NC State Little Rock 197 22 Evan Bockman Graduate Anchorage, AK Utah Valley Iowa State 133 24 Chris Cannon Graduate Oceanport, NJ Michigan 285 24 Seth Nitzel Senior Stilwell, FL Missouri 165 24 Connor Brady Graduate Powell, OH Virginia Tech Will not transfer 149 26 Jaivon Jones Graduate Shaker Heights, OH Northern Illinois Little Rock 174 26 Josh Ogunsanya Graduate River Forest, IL Columbia North Carolina 165 26 Kyle Mosher Graduate Rockville Centre, NY Columbia 125 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Guys like him should transfer down the road to UCO D2 and go compete to be an AA.

Yep... 24/7 open portal....NIL guaranteed.... No eligibility requirements for "student" athletes.... As I have said, they will wrestle two periods for one team, transfer to the opposing school between the 2nd and 3rd, and then defeat themselves in overtime.

Man...pretty tough for guys who stayed, then transfers come in and take their spot and they are stuck with no way to transfer or compete anywhere.

Dang, this would have definitely been a better conversation in person, without assumptions. My "Felicia " was definitely in regard to him no longer repping the RWB, not him not being a citizen. My apologies. Should've clarified. I have no problem with others supporting him financially; I was just clarifying why I would not. Looking back, I see how my messages could have been interpreted incorrectly. That one is on me brother. Appreciate you pointing that out.

The entire tone of your responses was different up until this one. If this is truly how you feel, then I am with you. As I said in my responses, I would also root for RWB first. That said, deciding to withhold and, more importantly, advocating for people to not offer potential support to a person who is a dual citizen (in this case it means both Mexico and the United States) is shitty and petty - best case. He is still a citizen of the United States as well as Mexico. Your initial response to me was "Not anymore. Bye Felicia" so the name calling started with you.

Maybe you should read the room and shut the ***duck** up.

Was this supposed to be epic in some way? Asking for a friend.

Garbage take is a garbage take.

Garbage take is a garbage take as well.

@poorwrestler fly is kinda a Nelson Mandela, MLk, Gandhi figure on these boards. Some say even a Mother Teresa. Is it possible to commute Fly's sentence. For the sake of all our sanity?

I lost a bet with @poorwrestler and am serving a 31 day sentence

Absolutely. I'm not going to dig up the relevant links but I remember reading something years ago that 75% or so of D1 athletic programs actually lose money.

you could've just said Pandemic year and kept your dumbass politics out of it.

Did he ever visit VT? I think he’s a biomed engineering major and VT has a masters option.

Well they can but will need their own rod & reel.