Odds that Spencer Lee does not win NCAAs this year?

[Dark Energy]

Guy has major injury repair going on. Field is not chopped liver.  
 

For a hundred dollar bet, how much would you need to win to take the field vs Spencer Lee?  Lee not wrestling or injury defaults, or straight up loses , would mean that you win. 
 

I’m thinking about $400.  But not sure.  Curious on other’s thoughts.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Spencer is winning it.  It's as stone cold lock.  I'd need 20:1 to take the field.

[Old142]

Only repeated "injuries" would stop him. 

 

[RandolphTJones]

I think Spencer will wrestle a minimal schedule to sustain his health. Would say if this becomes reality Brooks & Yianni battle it out for the Hodge this season, but still like Spencer's chances of winning it all come March. 

Edited November 3, 2022 by RandolphTJones

[ionel]

  On 11/3/2022 at 12:36 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Spencer is winning it.  It's as stone cold lock.  I'd need 20:1 to take the field.

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I'd need 200:1 to take a pastry bet.  

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Another interesting question is if Spencer ends up a 4x NCAA champ (like Dake and Stieber) but never wins an Olympic medal, because his body is spent....where does he rank in the all-time greats?

I assume he would have to be ranked next to Stieber, maybe 1 spot higher since Stieber had the controversial win vs Oliver.

[HungusMungus]

  On 11/3/2022 at 1:41 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Another interesting question is if Spencer ends up a 4x NCAA champ (like Dake and Stieber) but never wins an Olympic medal, because his body is spent....where does he rank in the all-time greats?

I assume he would have to be ranked next to Stieber, maybe 1 spot higher since Stieber had the controversial win vs Oliver.

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He will go down as one of the greatest college wrestlers of all time...no matter what he does after. 

[Bigbrog]

  On 11/3/2022 at 3:42 PM, HungusMungus said:

He will go down as one of the greatest college wrestlers of all time...no matter what he does after. 

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Agreed

[PortaJohn]

  On 11/3/2022 at 12:36 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Spencer is winning it.  It's as stone cold lock.  I'd need 20:1 to take the field.

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@BobDole @Husker_Du for the integrity of this forum I suggest Cinnabon being banned from making any bets

[VakAttack]

There's no way to formulate a full opinion on this until we see Spencer on the mat.  If he looks like he did before the injuries or even most of the way, the odds are really good he wins.  If he doesn't, that changes.  We don't have near enough information at this point to make that determination.

[Fadzaev2]

Best of luck to Spencer.....great kid!!

[BobDole]

  On 11/3/2022 at 4:21 PM, PortaJohn said:

@BobDole @Husker_Du for the integrity of this forum I suggest Cinnabon being banned from making any bets

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We have a forum for that

[Iowa]

  On 11/3/2022 at 6:36 PM, BobDole said:

We have a forum for that

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Would you please move the 'Board Bets' entry so that it's not so high up on the main list?

[jchapman]

  On 11/3/2022 at 1:41 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Another interesting question is if Spencer ends up a 4x NCAA champ (like Dake and Stieber) but never wins an Olympic medal, because his body is spent....where does he rank in the all-time greats?

I assume he would have to be ranked next to Stieber, maybe 1 spot higher since Stieber had the controversial win vs Oliver.

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Stieber has a JV World Championship to go with his 4 NCAAs, so that should bump him up a littler above Lee.

[dragit]

  On 11/3/2022 at 4:42 PM, VakAttack said:

There's no way to formulate a full opinion on this until we see Spencer on the mat.  If he looks like he did before the injuries or even most of the way, the odds are really good he wins.  If he doesn't, that changes.  We don't have near enough information at this point to make that determination.

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Even then I wouldn't be sure. He was a totally different wrestler at freshman year NCAAs than he'd been all year.

[VakAttack]

  On 11/4/2022 at 3:20 AM, dragit said:

Even then I wouldn't be sure. He was a totally different wrestler at freshman year NCAAs than he'd been all year.

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Yeah, but we're just talking about odds.

[dragit]

  On 11/4/2022 at 3:48 AM, VakAttack said:

Yeah, but we're just talking about odds.

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Yeah good point for the thread that's what was at issue.

So I'll use this to rant. For a message board odds discussions like this are good fodder.  But this gambling stuff has gotten out of control on TV and radio.  I just want to drill a hole in my head when entire shows are devoted to spreads when the time could be used to cover, you know, the games.  The extent to which games are watched and covered for the point spread or other thing besides the outcome is weird to me. The point of the game is to win. That's it. 

[Dark Energy]

I think there is a real and significant chance that his injury / surgery recovery  will really hamper him.  Sucks.  Big time.  I hope not.  If no injury at this time, I probably need to win $1000 to bet $100.  But it is there …. Thus my question.  

[VakAttack]

  On 11/4/2022 at 5:12 AM, dragit said:

Yeah good point for the thread that's what was at issue.

So I'll use this to rant. For a message board odds discussions like this are good fodder.  But this gambling stuff has gotten out of control on TV and radio.  I just want to drill a hole in my head when entire shows are devoted to spreads when the time could be used to cover, you know, the games.  The extent to which games are watched and covered for the point spread or other thing besides the outcome is weird to me. The point of the game is to win. That's it. 

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I get it and agree.  It's totally a function of money, since DraftKings and FanDuel seem to own the entirety of the sports podcast landscape.

[Hammerlock3]

the odds that his season is going to less fun than most anticipate is 90%. He'll see him infrequently, he won't be at his best, get his fourth title to loud but not thunderous applause...hopefully ready to tear up freestyle.

[Dark Energy]

  On 11/4/2022 at 3:42 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

the odds that his season is going to less fun than most anticipate is 90%. He'll see him infrequently, he won't be at his best, get his fourth title to loud but not thunderous applause...hopefully ready to tear up freestyle.

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Yea, I get it.  How certain are you?  
 

What odds would you need to bet against him?  

[PortaJohn]

  On 11/4/2022 at 4:29 PM, Dark Energy said:

Yea, I get it.  How certain are you?  
 

What odds would you need to bet against him?  

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Id take odds at 100 to 1 and even then I probably wouldn't because to win I'd be betting on him getting reinjured 

[Hammerlock3]

  On 11/4/2022 at 4:29 PM, Dark Energy said:

Yea, I get it.  How certain are you?  
 

What odds would you need to bet against him?  

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whats your point? you're just acting like i said he was gonna lose so you can pretend to be right about something?

[mspart]

Knees are delicate mechanisms.   He will have to really protect those babies. 

Regarding Streibler, he won a Senior WC in 2016 for non Olympic weights.   So he has some credentials other than NCAAs. 

I don't know Lee at all but wish him the best of luck with his health.   If that works, he should be a 4 timer.

mspart

[Dark Energy]

  On 11/4/2022 at 5:35 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

whats your point? you're just acting like i said he was gonna lose so you can pretend to be right about something?

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Huh?    I could pretend to be right?  Lost me.

I think I asked a simple question.  And it is out of curiosity.  It is also the point of the thread.  
 

What odds would you need to bet against him?