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Sounds like a credo to me. Although an ironic one in this instance.

Cue the steel balls again https://youtu.be/5eHHCG-wHFA?si=mI0pJGcdYAF1iLSd

Seems perfectly normal. Could you imagine guys like Doug Dake, God rest his soul, and David Taylor Sr. carrying on like that as their kids made names for themselves?

He doesn't matter, he is a blase guy in charge of a room where none of the wrestlers have any ambition.

Always moving... Always rebutting... ...

Timeless. Geometric logic. But they just couldn't understand.

I'm glad you can still think.

... and kind and polite ...

That's it, you take the laboring oar for a while.

Quite a flex. Hang in there. You can get through this.

You have a very interesting approach to choosing what and how to argue.

8 wrestling matches in the 48 minutes of a basketball game.

The crazy thing about Delgado is that the year before the Garrett match he was an aggressive attacker. Then after he won his first title he went into a shell. IMar similar thing. Hmmm, what was common between them? Mark Perry! Full circle!

Bravo

Got who? NO ONE in this country knows anything about Greco or cares whether your assertion about overseas is accurate. You know, because we don't live there. Where is a shooting yourself in the foot gif when I need one?

You're making your antagonists' point.

I concede I can only speak with certainty about why I come to the board and post. And I also concede, wholeheartedly, that I live in my own fantasty world That being said, it's hard to picture in my fantasy world how anyone here thinks they are affecting anything that happens on a mat through their posts.

Who here posts to have an "affect [sic] on anything in the real world"? Maybe you do, but I'd be surprised to learn that anyone else does. My guess is that everyone else tries to have an effect on things in the real world such as their hopefully rewarding professions, and their families. As far as the board goes, I think that people come here as wrestling fans to share opinions about wrestling with other wrestling fans, not to have an effect on anything, but instead to enhance their enjoyment of the sport. That's what they're trying to accomplish and what their end goal is. What's your end goal? What are you trying to accomplish? I can see your kids' end goal, and what they are trying to accomplish, and I admire them pushing all their chips in and going for it.

Famous last words. And a familiar posture: You people are so stupid and worthless that you don't bother me at all, never mind how angry I sound and how many attack posts I spew out.

Who is "getting so incensed to preserve" folkstyle? How does the style that is the overwhelming majority of U.S. wrestling need protection? The style that sells out a pro arena every spring for an ESPN televised tournament? Your premise is a ridiculous strawman concoction. No one here is getting incensed over preserving folkstyle. People just don't like having themselves and their intelligence insulted with weird, irrelevant ad hominem attacks.

Please.

That's obviously not my argument. Hang in there, you can get through this.

As you've documented there isn't a comparison. Based on amateur research, nine total U.S. Olympic greco medals, ever, outside 1984 boycott, with only one gold. No world golds in greco since 2006. All our very best go freestyle. Coon is a good example. He's probably our best college wrestler who went greco and from what I found is our only world greco finalist since 2010 (we often have four freestyle finalists in a single year). But he never won NCAAs, lost to a guy 60 pounds lighter, never wrestled freestyle worlds, etc. He's nowhere in the league of our freestyle reps with all their world medals. Terrific wrestler. Just not David Taylor, Jordan Burroughs, etc., etc. Nowhere near. Our very best guys just don't go greco.

Yes as said above there are some "pretty darn good" guys grecoing. But as also said above the very best do free not greco. Thus almost no highest level success in greco and lots of high level success in free.