More fraud

[1032004]

19 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Btw AJ Ferrari has a year of eligibility left in case you were still wondering.  

I’ll take that as an admission of defeat in this thread

[JimmySpeaks]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I’ll take that as an admission of defeat in this thread

Says the guy avoiding the questions I ask him. Two can play that game skippy.  

[JimmySpeaks]

13 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I’ll take that as an admission of defeat in this thread

You should do some reading on the audit that was conducted. There’s proof that state employees created false documents to cover up the fraud.   I know you don’t like facts but it’s reality. 

[1032004]

6 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Says the guy avoiding the questions I ask him. Two can play that game skippy.  

What questions did I avoid?

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You should do some reading on the audit that was conducted. There’s proof that state employees created false documents to cover up the fraud.   I know you don’t like facts but it’s reality. 

They allegedly falsified documents to try to cover their butt because they found out an audit was happening and they may not have done everything they were supposed to originally, that doesn’t mean they were “covering up fraud.”  Still would be a crime of course, but that’s probably not something the governor would be aware of.

[JimmySpeaks]

12 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

They allegedly falsified documents to try to cover their butt because they found out an audit was happening and they may not have done everything they were supposed to originally, that doesn’t mean they were “covering up fraud.”  Still would be a crime of course, but that’s probably not something the governor would be aware of.

So they committed a crime intentionally or unintentionally. Got it. They’re guilty either way. 
Still waiting for you to prove I did anything other than state the facts about Scott.  Your speculation means nothing.  

Edited April 6 by JimmySpeaks

[headshuck]

Too early. You would hope any investigations would be kept quiet until the right time.

[1032004]

30 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

So they committed a crime intentionally or unintentionally. Got it. They’re guilty either way. 
Still waiting for you to prove I did anything other than state the facts about Scott.  Your speculation means nothing.  

Yes if they committed a crime they should go to jail, but 

1) no one’s been charged yet for that, so there you go again assuming guilt.   So again, I think it’s interesting that you’ll assume guilt for these folks and Tim Walz, but not for Rick Scott.

2) Even if they did what they’re accused of, that doesn’t mean they were participants in the fraud.

[headshuck]

I want to know who whispered “look the other way and we’ll make sure you are re-elected and maybe even a VP.”

Nope, can’t prove anything, just like the other 10 million corrupt political maneuvers across the country. They’re all above the law.

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yes if they committed a crime they should go to jail, but 

1) no one’s been charged yet for that, so there you go again assuming guilt.   So again, I think it’s interesting that you’ll assume guilt for these folks and Tim Walz, but not for Rick Scott.

2) Even if they did what they’re accused of, that doesn’t mean they were participants in the fraud.

Are you talking about something that was thoroughly investigated in 1997 (Scott) Vs an active investigation now (waltz fraud)?

stretch Much?

[1032004]

17 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Are you talking about something that was thoroughly investigated in 1997 (Scott) Vs an active investigation now (waltz fraud)?

stretch Much?

If you think Walz is going to be criminally charged I think you’re going to  be sorely disappointed.   He’ll probably right behind Obama being charged for treason lol.

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

If you think Walz is going to be criminally charged I think you’re going to  be sorely disappointed.   He’ll probably right behind Obama being charged for treason lol.

Politics and politicians suck.  So you are probably correct there.   His political career is over though 

Edited April 6 by Caveira

[wrestlingguy]

On 4/4/2026 at 6:06 PM, Caveira said:

You’ve got a link or some facts to back that up?

 

 

Feelings 110%

[1032004]

16 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

Feelings 110%

True if you count Trump’s family members as not in the private sector then it might be pretty close 

[wrestlingguy]

34 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

True if you count Trump’s family members as not in the private sector then it might be pretty close 

So you have a link showing that Trump's family commits more fraud than whole states? Interesting.

[mspart]

More back home to real things. 

1.   https://pressley.house.gov/2025/12/18/pressley-bills-to-strengthen-eviction-protections-help-families-achieve-financial-independence-pass-out-of-committee/

People like Ayanna Pressley want to institute squatting as a legal right.   There is no way to reduce housing affordability and availability than to do this.   First, if someone is on your property without your consent, why can you not throw them out.   Here in WA, it is a year(s) long process to get people off of your property.   Not to mention the property damage that is your liability.   How is protecting these people good for society.   I see no up side here. 

2.   My son has owned a few businesses.   In one, an employee quit without warning leaving the biz in a lurch.   He went to another biz and was laid off a few weeks later.   My son was held liable for the unemployment benefits.   Why you ask?  I don't know.   He doesn't know, but his unemployment insurance got increased because of it.   

A few things the government does that is not good.  This is not fraud necessarily but it is defrauding innocent people of their money and property.  

mspart

[braves121]

4 minutes ago, mspart said:

More back home to real things. 

1.   https://pressley.house.gov/2025/12/18/pressley-bills-to-strengthen-eviction-protections-help-families-achieve-financial-independence-pass-out-of-committee/

People like Ayanna Pressley want to institute squatting as a legal right.   There is no way to reduce housing affordability and availability than to do this.   First, if someone is on your property without your consent, why can you not throw them out.   Here in WA, it is a year(s) long process to get people off of your property.   Not to mention the property damage that is your liability.   How is protecting these people good for society.   I see no up side here. 

2.   My son has owned a few businesses.   In one, an employee quit without warning leaving the biz in a lurch.   He went to another biz and was laid off a few weeks later.   My son was held liable for the unemployment benefits.   Why you ask?  I don't know.   He doesn't know, but his unemployment insurance got increased because of it.   

A few things the government does that is not good.  This is not fraud necessarily but it is defrauding innocent people of their money and property.  

mspart

2. I mean that makes sense why his premiums increased, every business puts int the pot and it seemed that because an extra person got unemployment that would increase rates. Thats kinda the whole point of making business pool together so that they actually are incentivized to provide jobs 

Edited April 6 by braves121

[WrestlingRasta]

2 minutes ago, mspart said:

More back home to real things. 

1.   https://pressley.house.gov/2025/12/18/pressley-bills-to-strengthen-eviction-protections-help-families-achieve-financial-independence-pass-out-of-committee/

People like Ayanna Pressley want to institute squatting as a legal right.   There is no way to reduce housing affordability and availability than to do this.   First, if someone is on your property without your consent, why can you not throw them out.   Here in WA, it is a year(s) long process to get people off of your property.   Not to mention the property damage that is your liability.   How is protecting these people good for society.   I see no up side here. 

2.   My son has owned a few businesses.   In one, an employee quit without warning leaving the biz in a lurch.   He went to another biz and was laid off a few weeks later.   My son was held liable for the unemployment benefits.   Why you ask?  I don't know.   He doesn't know, but his unemployment insurance got increased because of it.   

A few things the government does that is not good.  This is not fraud necessarily but it is defrauding innocent people of their money and property.  

mspart

It goes beyond just squatting. My daughter called me yesterday, she lives on some property ‘up north’  (Florida term for basically any place not Florida) and has suspected someone hanging out in area behind her detached garage.  Yesterday she spotted him, called the police, and they told her she has to put up a no trespassing sign before they can come out and intervene.  
 

Why?  Why is a no trespassing sign needed not to be on private property? 

[wrestlingguy]

35 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It goes beyond just squatting. My daughter called me yesterday, she lives on some property ‘up north’  (Florida term for basically any place not Florida) and has suspected someone hanging out in area behind her detached garage.  Yesterday she spotted him, called the police, and they told her she has to put up a no trespassing sign before they can come out and intervene.  
 

Why?  Why is a no trespassing sign needed not to be on private property? 

WTH? They can trespass people from businesses but for personal property they need a no trespassing sign?

Some people won't be so nice about it when they ask them to leave either.

[JimmySpeaks]

5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Yes if they committed a crime they should go to jail, but 

1) no one’s been charged yet for that, so there you go again assuming guilt.   So again, I think it’s interesting that you’ll assume guilt for these folks and Tim Walz, but not for Rick Scott.

2) Even if they did what they’re accused of, that doesn’t mean they were participants in the fraud.

Again, Rick Scott wasn’t charged nor fined personally. It’s over. Case closed. How hard is that to understand???  

[JimmySpeaks]

5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Yes if they committed a crime they should go to jail, but 

1) no one’s been charged yet for that, so there you go again assuming guilt.   So again, I think it’s interesting that you’ll assume guilt for these folks and Tim Walz, but not for Rick Scott.

2) Even if they did what they’re accused of, that doesn’t mean they were participants in the fraud.

Fraud was committed. Their acts allowed the fraud to happen.  Do the math skippy. 

[mspart]

1 hour ago, braves121 said:

2. I mean that makes sense why his premiums increased, every business puts int the pot and it seemed that because an extra person got unemployment that would increase rates. Thats kinda the whole point of making business pool together so that they actually are incentivized to provide jobs 

He is not the one that laid the guy off.   It was the outfit he quit my son for.   They laid him off.   But the state targeted my son as liable for more taxes because the guy got laid off by some one else.  How is that the way it is supposed to work?

Let's say you get laid off.   The state will impose higher unemployment taxes on your ex company's competitor?  How is that right?

mspart

[mspart]

1 hour ago, wrestlingguy said:

WTH? They can trespass people from businesses but for personal property they need a no trespassing sign?

Some people won't be so nice about it when they ask them to leave either.

Here in WA, you leave for a 1 month vacation.   Some random guy breaks in and starts living in your house, while you are gone so you don't know.   You come back and all the locks are changed and you cannot get into your own house.   And the cops cannot or will not do anything about it.  We don't need no stinking No Trespassing signs around here.   People just squat and it takes a loooooooong time to get them out.   Even though the title is in your name.   Even though the utilities are tied to your address which are in your name for the property you own where the title is in your name.   I do not get this.  

mspart

Edited April 6 by mspart

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, mspart said:

Here in WA, you leave for a 1 month vacation.   Some random guy breaks in and starts living in your house, while you are gone so you don't know.   You come back and all the locks are changed and you cannot get into your own house.   And the cops cannot or will not do anything about it.  We don't need no stinking No Trespassing signs around here.   People just squat and it takes a loooooooong time to get them out.   Even though the title is in your name.   Even though the utilities are tied to your address which are in your name for the property you own where the title is in your name.   I do not get this.  

mspart

That’s just beyond stupid.   I don’t understand in any why why squatters have rights to stay 

[wrestlingguy]

3 minutes ago, mspart said:

Here in WA, you leave for a 1 month vacation.   Some random guy breaks in and starts living in your house, while you are gone so you don't know.   You come back and all the locks are changed and you cannot get into your own house.   And the cops cannot or will not do anything about it.  We don't need no stinking No Trespassing signs around here.   People just squat and it takes a loooooooong time to get them out.   Even though the title is in your name.   Even though the utilities are tied to your address which are in your name for the property you own where the title is in your name.   I do not get this.  

mspart

What a nightmare!!