Jacked wrestlers today are nearly like they were before

[MichiganMade3]

Lance Palmer for example was huge how on Earth he made 149 I have no clue he was built like 195... and definitely has one of the most swoll physiques of the past 20 years.  It just seems like today's era the wrestlers arent nearly as buff and muscular as wrestlers in the 80s 90s and early 2000s... look at the 149 Pounders up to even the 184 pounders of the last 10 years and even today and a 149 lb Palmer looks bigger than most teams 84 pounder... all those Ohio State guys NATO was huge for his weight Snyder was huge and ripped Bo Jordan was huge and ripped you just don't see that as much today.

[Wrestleknownothing]

Drew Henson seems to be doing OK

[Wrestleknownothing]

And is that Tom Brands saying "Whoa" as Mike Caliendo jogs past?

[HarryConnickJr]

Ohio state guys always look bigger when they use the tanning beds

[ionel]

2 hours ago, MichiganMade3 said:

Lance Palmer for example was huge how on Earth he made 149 I have no clue he was built like 195... and definitely has one of the most swoll physiques of the past 20 years.  It just seems like today's era the wrestlers arent nearly as buff and muscular as wrestlers in the 80s 90s and early 2000s... look at the 149 Pounders up to even the 184 pounders of the last 10 years and even today and a 149 lb Palmer looks bigger than most teams 84 pounder... all those Ohio State guys NATO was huge for his weight Snyder was huge and ripped Bo Jordan was huge and ripped you just don't see that as much today.

Well sure but not quite the roid level jacked of 25 years ago:

[Wrestleknownothing]

12 minutes ago, ionel said:

Well sure but not quite the roid level jacked of 25 years ago:

You do NOT have permission to use my picture.

[ionel]

9 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

You do NOT have permission to use my picture.

Found the answer to the sink or swim question - it must be sink.

[Hammerlock3]

stupid toplc

[BFosr1]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

Well sure but not quite the roid level jacked of 25 years ago:

He looks like he ate Nick Feldman and took his face,

[D3 for LU]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

Found the answer to the sink or swim question - it must be sink.

Indeed.

D3

[Alces Alces Gigas]

Was talking to.some old coaches and wrestlers about tis topic last week. Back in the 80s and 90s lots of the methodology for developing strength came from Flex  and Muscle Fitness magazines (bodybuilding) where building muscle not strength was the focus. Isolate the muscles individually instead of full body lifts and muscle  group lifts with little concern for function and flexibility

[Dark Energy]

I’m confused.  What is the topic?  They are nearly like?  Seems like a weird topic.

Edited Saturday at 07:37 PM by Dark Energy

[Le duke]

Banach vs Schultz.

Also, imagine the beating Keck, Starocci or Brooks would put on these guys at 184.


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[ionel]

Natural Farm Strong!

[Hammerlock3]

1 hour ago, Le duke said:

Banach vs Schultz.
 

 

Also, imagine the beating Keck, Starocci or Brooks would put on these guys at 184.


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This post is either saying nothing or something really dumb.

[Idaho]

The end....

[Corellan]

Data may be a way to solve this , as in average height per weight class by year with a lower 

average height maybe indicative of more muscularity . 

Would have to start after the year weigh ins were changed from night before for consistency though. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

26 minutes ago, Corellan said:

Data may be a way to solve this , as in average height per weight class by year with a lower 

average height maybe indicative of more muscularity . 

Would have to start after the year weigh ins were changed from night before for consistency though. 

[11986]

1 hour ago, Corellan said:

Data may be a way to solve this , as in average height per weight class by year with a lower 

average height maybe indicative of more muscularity . 

Would have to start after the year weigh ins were changed from night before for consistency though. 

Maybe I’m arguing the wrong point but it’s the guys who aren’t short for the weight class and still jacked that baffle me. Palmer in OP is one thing. The guy on that team that had hollow bones or something was Bo Jordan. 

[Husker]

Joe Dubuque. 125lbs.

 

 

 

[pokemonster]

4 hours ago, Alces Alces Gigas said:

Was talking to.some old coaches and wrestlers about tis topic last week. Back in the 80s and 90s lots of the methodology for developing strength came from Flex  and Muscle Fitness magazines (bodybuilding) where building muscle not strength was the focus. Isolate the muscles individually instead of full body lifts and muscle  group lifts with little concern for function and flexibility

I think this is probably it. The Palmers were known to do an F ton of weightlifting in addition to their wrestling workouts. Are kids these days focusing on weightlifting that much? I'm talking bench press, curls, shoulder presses, etc. Seems they're way more into functional workouts. Bo Bassett, Jax Forrest, Marcus Blaze etc don't look like muscle heads or like they spend a quarter of the time in the gym lifting weights as somebody like Lance Palmer.  

Edited Sunday at 12:18 AM by pokemonster

[Konquest]

The discussion of jacked wrestlers who look 3 weight classes heavier starts and stops with Ryan Deakin.  A friend who attended some Stanford duals told me that Deakin is visually bigger than Pat Brucki, who was a jacked 197 lb. multi-AA.  It defies logic how Deakin was a 157 lb. wrestler.  He would've been big and jacked at 174.  Never seen anything like him.

[wrestle87]

This change comes largely after the evolution of the far ankle scramble.  That was a position in particular that showed the power and importance of leverage and length.  

Wrestling is also 10x more technical these days and scrambles waaay longer than back when palmer was wrestling.

The sport changed, and bodies have evolved with the evolution.  The #1 wrestler injury used to be shoulders, by far.  Now it is knees by a country mile.

[scourge165]

5 hours ago, Le duke said:

Banach vs Schultz.
 

 

Also, imagine the beating Keck, Starocci or Brooks would put on these guys at 184.


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Yeah...I think they would... but all three guys you mentioned are big pretty big.

 

This also feels like an odd topic. There are plenty of dudes who are still big, but they seem smarter about their workouts. Spencer Lee...his was like 90% core. That's why he can turn pretty much anyone.

[scourge165]

14 hours ago, MichiganMade3 said:

Lance Palmer for example was huge how on Earth he made 149 I have no clue he was built like 195... and definitely has one of the most swoll physiques of the past 20 years.  It just seems like today's era the wrestlers arent nearly as buff and muscular as wrestlers in the 80s 90s and early 2000s... look at the 149 Pounders up to even the 184 pounders of the last 10 years and even today and a 149 lb Palmer looks bigger than most teams 84 pounder... all those Ohio State guys NATO was huge for his weight Snyder was huge and ripped Bo Jordan was huge and ripped you just don't see that as much today.

Being 5'6 helps. Was he pretty big? Sure. 184 Big? No. 

Deakin one weight class higher and about 6 inches taller was...insane.