2025 Transfer Portal

[Wieds789]

24 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

i said on the show the other day that there's a curveball school. unc is what i meant.

he's been in chapel hill since wednesday night.

was Iowa State going after him, or was it a guess

[VakAttack]

1 hour ago, Not creative name said:

100% for sure.

but now is a great time to show everybody what kind of person you are. You can fold like a cheap Chinese suit or you step up to the challenge as inspirational music plays and you let everybody know you ain’t gonna be pushed around. 
 

the schools looking to pick him up should be asking themselves if he has what it takes.

"Why won't this person show loyalty to this program that, in this instance, has not shown loyalty to him?"

Penn State did what they thought was in their best interests with the intent to try to keep Ryder.  Ryder has to do what he thinks in his best interest.  This kid specifically is somebody who moved to PA and skipped wrestling his senior year, he was all in on Penn State, and was hurt by this.

[VakAttack]

20 hours ago, BAC said:

They are data points.  Some are facts, some are interpretations of facts, but every one is grounded in fact, whereas your accusations are not.  You're just questioning peoples' motives. You rely on Basch but even he corrected his tweet when he realized he jumped the gun.

Your fact/opinion distinction also lacks substance. When I say Ryder and Welsh are comparable wrestlers, is that an opinion?  Sure.  Is it grounded in fact? Yes, based on Ryder's record/wins -- and I'm yet to hear a single person interpret the data differently.  Similarly, is everything Welsh says necessarily factually true?  Don't know, but his saying it is a fact, and there's no one with first-hand knowledge saying otherwise. 

Bottom line is you're simply rejecting all the data and preferring an entirely made-up conclusion, instead -- if I'm reading you correctly -- accusing wrestlers of lying, coaches of cheating and rule-breaking, saying PSU is "just like Lance Armstrong," and so on, all because (so far as I can tell) PSU is your school's rival.

Depends what "game" you're talking about.  Trying to nab the best talent from the portal?  Absolutely. Donors using NIL funds as a carrot?  Yup.  Coaches contacting wrestlers enrolled at other schools (or directing others to contact them) before the portal window opens, unsolicited, to try to broker a deal for them to transfer to their school?  No.  That's not the "game."  That's a serious recruiting violation, and if caught leads to firings/dismissal, fines, probation, suspension. 

Does it still happen?  With some schools, apparently so.  It sounds like you think Iowa is complicit.  Is that why you're so quick to trot out the "everyone else is doing it too" defense?  I dunno, but just because some are guilty, doesn't mean all of them are. 

To be clear, none of this is about defending PSU.  Were they guilty, or even if there were serious evidence of it, I'd be the first to dogpile on them.  I certainly don't think they operate on some higher ethical plane than everyone else.  But I do think the vast majority of schools try to follow the rules (muddy as they are), including PSU, if only because the consequences of not doing so (and getting caught) are cataclysmic.

But sure. Stick with the "PSU contacted Welsh long ago and convinced him/bribed him to transfer, and now he's lying about it while PSU covers it up" narrative.  Free speech is a wonderful thing, though I think you're wise to maintain that "it's my opinion not a fact" disclaimer when you do it. 

You just keep saying things are facts that aren't facts to try to give your argument more credibility, lol.  Like, Rocco Welsh saying something doesn't make the content of the statement a fact.  You're just twisting yourself into knots to defend against something that doesn't require a defense.  It's not illegal what Penn State did, but they almost definitely did it.  At least you're starting to admit that some of your "facts" are actually opinions, although you're just trying to shroud them in "widely held opinions are facts" as if this is some data-driven science experiment.

[CHROMEBIRD]

22 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

i can confirm at dinner last night he came out as a flat earther. 

Amazing.

 

 

 

Also, Koll & the UNC staff at dinner last night:

Edited 8 hours ago by CHROMEBIRD

[Not creative name]

10 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

"Why won't this person show loyalty to this program that, in this instance, has not shown loyalty to him?"

Penn State did what they thought was in their best interests with the intent to try to keep Ryder.  Ryder has to do what he thinks in his best interest.  This kid specifically is somebody who moved to PA and skipped wrestling his senior year, he was all in on Penn State, and was hurt by this.

all the more reason to hold his ground.

calling it now: he never wins a title because he obviously can't handle adversity. 

[VakAttack]

Just now, Not creative name said:

all the more reason to hold his ground.

calling it now: he never wins a title because he obviously can't handle adversity. 

Why is it all the more reason to hold his ground?  You just saying that doesn't make it so.  "Look, your girlfriend cheated on you but she's SUPER hot, so you have to suck it up..."

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[MPhillips]

7 minutes ago, Not creative name said:

calling it now: he never wins a title because he obviously can't handle adversity. 

Ryder or Rocco...

[Not creative name]

2 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Why is it all the more reason to hold his ground?  You just saying that doesn't make it so.  "Look, your girlfriend cheated on you but she's SUPER hot, so you have to suck it up..."

as you said, the dude made all these life changing decisions and went all in for PSU.  but the moment there is some disturbance he shrivels up like a nut sack in cold weather and bolts out of town. turn some adversity into a positive!

he no doubt is mentally weak and doesn't handle setbacks well. not everybody is cut out to be the best.

[VakAttack]

Just now, Not creative name said:

as you said, the dude made all these life changing decisions and went all in for PSU.  but the moment there is some disturbance he shrivels up like a nut sack in cold weather and bolts out of town. turn some adversity into a positive!

he no doubt is mentally weak and doesn't handle setbacks well. not everybody is cut out to be the best.

The same argument applies to Welsh, you weirdo.

[The_KC_Godfather]

AJ to UNC is bad news simply because of what Kohl said about the women there. I wonder if his commitment to God includes celibacy...

[Paul158]

1 minute ago, Not creative name said:

as you said, the dude made all these life changing decisions and went all in for PSU.  but the moment there is some disturbance he shrivels up like a nut sack in cold weather and bolts out of town. turn some adversity into a positive!

he no doubt is mentally weak and doesn't handle setbacks well. not everybody is cut out to be the best.

Would that be something you say to him if he was standing right in front of you? 

[okokzach]

3 minutes ago, Not creative name said:

as you said, the dude made all these life changing decisions and went all in for PSU.  but the moment there is some disturbance he shrivels up like a nut sack in cold weather and bolts out of town. turn some adversity into a positive!

he no doubt is mentally weak and doesn't handle setbacks well. not everybody is cut out to be the best.

Cael is mentally weak then, that's why he left Iowa State. Couldn't handle a challenge 

[MPhillips]

2 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

The same argument applies to Welsh, you weirdo.

As noted...

[ionel]

28 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

This was the first thing I thought of 

 

 

 

I'm sure @Wrestleknownothing will be all over this.  With the down market today buy pitchfork stock while you can.  

[VakAttack]

6 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

As noted...

Great minds, sir.

[VakAttack]

 

Dean Peterson retweeted this, so it seems official.

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

 

Dean Peterson retweeted this, so it seems official.

Can't be true cause Jimmy does have one thread much less five about it.  Checking with @PortaJohn for confirmation.  

[Idaho]

21 minutes ago, Not creative name said:

as you said, the dude made all these life changing decisions and went all in for PSU.  but the moment there is some disturbance he shrivels up like a nut sack in cold weather and bolts out of town. turn some adversity into a positive!

he no doubt is mentally weak and doesn't handle setbacks well. not everybody is cut out to be the best.

He didn't get to where he is now in the wrestling by being mentally weak Kenny Rogers. I'm sure he has had his share of adversity to overcome to get to where he is today. Lots of guys have left to go on to other programs because of broken promises, cut NIL, recruiting over. 

[MPhillips]

37 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Great minds, sir.

Indeed Brother...

[Idaho]

Erik Gibson of PSU -  the mentally weak, can't handle setbacks not cut out to be the best wrestler  enters the portal. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Idaho

[Gus]

Ryder to OK State.

[poorwrestler]

Surprised Thompson isn’t already in the portal


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