Fast pass to American citizenship now on sale for $5 million

[VakAttack]

https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/us-news/trump-says-us-will-sell-5m-gold-cards-to-foreigners-green-card-privileges-plus/

A plus.  No notes. Truly representatives of the common man.  What a clown show.

[Offthemat]

I noticed that Kash Patel got his start as a public defender in Florida.  

[red viking]

Lmfao when they say they'll pay off the deficit w this. Nice idea to bring in more Republicans amd elites but they'll sell very few. 

Edited Wednesday at 01:26 AM by red viking

[headshuck]

About 10 years ago my wife and I considered moving to New Zealand so we looked into the requirements to become a resident.

Requirements to become a New Zealand resident (ai assist):

- **Health**: Good health, proven by a medical certificate.
- **Character**: No serious criminal history, shown with police certificates.
- **English**: Basic English ability (varies by category, sometimes waived).
- **Pathways**:
- **Skilled Migrant**: Under 55, skilled job/offer, 160+ points (age, skills, etc.).
- **Work to Residence**: 2 years on eligible work visa with full-time job.
- **Family**: Partner, child, or parent of a NZ citizen/resident; relationship proof or financial sponsorship.
- **Investor**: Invest NZD $5M–$15M, meet time-in-country rules.
- **Special**: Pacific ballot, family violence/trafficking victims, or Australian citizen/resident status.
- **Permanent Residency**: After 2 years as resident, spend 184 days/year in NZ or show commitment (e.g., tax residency, business).

[mspart]

13 minutes ago, headshuck said:

About 10 years ago my wife and I considered moving to New Zealand so we looked into the requirements to become a resident.

Requirements to become a New Zealand resident (ai assist):

- **Health**: Good health, proven by a medical certificate.
- **Character**: No serious criminal history, shown with police certificates.
- **English**: Basic English ability (varies by category, sometimes waived).
- **Pathways**:
- **Skilled Migrant**: Under 55, skilled job/offer, 160+ points (age, skills, etc.).
- **Work to Residence**: 2 years on eligible work visa with full-time job.
- **Family**: Partner, child, or parent of a NZ citizen/resident; relationship proof or financial sponsorship.
- **Investor**: Invest NZD $5M–$15M, meet time-in-country rules.
- **Special**: Pacific ballot, family violence/trafficking victims, or Australian citizen/resident status.
- **Permanent Residency**: After 2 years as resident, spend 184 days/year in NZ or show commitment (e.g., tax residency, business).

Not to mention the horrendous taxes that you have to pay.  I have a friend who married a NZer and they live there part time now because of the taxes.  The other time is spent in WA down by the Columbia river.  

mspart

[jross]

I don’t know how many they will sell, but I did think it was genius when I heard it.

[VakAttack]

8 minutes ago, jross said:

I don’t know how many they will sell, but I did think it was genius when I heard it.

Shocking. 

[RockLobster]

43 minutes ago, jross said:

I don’t know how many they will sell, but I did think it was genius when I heard it.

Not uninteresting to hear the perspective of our resident communist.

[1032004]

Can you purchase a “green card plus” gift card for someone else?

[headshuck]

Ai…

Over 100 countries have similar "golden visa" or investment-based citizenship programs. Examples include Portugal ($250,000 for residency), Malta ($1 million for citizenship), and St. Kitts ($200,000 for citizenship). The U.S. EB-5 visa, which Trump’s $5 million gold card would replace, already offers residency for $1.05 million. Trump’s idea raises the cost and aims to sell millions to cut debt, a bigger scale than most global programs.

[jross]

9 hours ago, RockLobster said:

Not uninteresting to hear the perspective of our resident communist.

What about minimal government, free markets, and personal freedom is communism?

[Husker_Du]

18 hours ago, RockLobster said:

Not uninteresting to hear the perspective of our resident communist.

you don't know what 'communist' means even though what you espouse clearly puts you adjacent to that definition.

nothing about jross says 'communist'

nut bag lefts like yourself like to throw around 'communist' and 'fascist' and 'nazi' without the slightest clue wtf they're talking about. 

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

you don't know what 'communist' means even though what you espouse clearly puts you adjacent to that definition.

nothing about jross says 'communist'

nut bag lefts like yourself like to throw around 'communist' and 'fascist' and 'nazi' without the slightest clue wtf they're talking about. 

Communists think he is way to far to the left  

[Husker_Du]

fwiw i think this $5m thing is an extreme by Trump and response to the extreme by the left in letting the southern border be completely open.

however i've looked at other countries over the years and there's a ton of them that have similar policies and/or ask you to make a significant investment in their country to secure citizenship.

[Scouts Honor]

Dems just dont trust immigrants..

oh wait 

[headshuck]

you don't know what 'communist' means even though what you espouse clearly puts you adjacent to that definition.
nothing about jross says 'communist'
nut bag lefts like yourself like to throw around 'communist' and 'fascist' and 'nazi' without the slightest clue wtf they're talking about. 

And so many followers saying “yeah, true” is just so bizarre.

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, headshuck said:

 

 

 

 

And so many followers saying “yeah, true” is just so bizarre.

 

 

 

Possibly the weirdest / worst ticket for president in history ?    Kamala and normal…..  I mean weird Tim waltz.  
 

 

[RockLobster]

17 hours ago, jross said:

What about minimal government, free markets, and personal freedom is communism?

What about them is Chinese?

Edited Thursday at 07:27 AM by RockLobster

[RockLobster]

9 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

you don't know what 'communist' means even though what you espouse clearly puts you adjacent to that definition.

nothing about jross says 'communist'

nut bag lefts like yourself like to throw around 'communist' and 'fascist' and 'nazi' without the slightest clue wtf they're talking about. 

Call me a "nut bag" if it makes you feel better, but these words aren't complicated. All simply defined.

 

[Bigbrog]

The more I learn about this...I sorta like it.  Not seeing what is wrong with it at this point.  Plus, there is a similar program already in place in the US (I think since the 90's), this is just a different twist to it.  Everything I read, the first deciding factor will be the extensive vetting process and which absolutely should be very extensive.  I know people are going to say that money will buy their way through the vetting process, but I guess I don't find the boogeyman in everything and assume it will be very strict.  Seems like it would be a great revenue stream for the US as well as more than likely the people who can afford it will also bring a lot of tax money into the US and probably jobs.

For those that are against it I'd love to hear your perspective.  Please, don't waste your time if all you have is the "I hate Trum so that is why it is bad".

[jross]

What is the reasoning against the idea?  Some form of "rich guys buying visas feels unfair."  Have they considered the second and third order impact?  Besides helping our locals in need, this could pay for the global compassion they’re pushing.

[jross]

6 hours ago, RockLobster said:

What about them is Chinese?

I now believe in subsidized health care. Free pscychogonagin for trollish sock puppets.

[Offthemat]

10 minutes ago, jross said:

I now believe in subsidized health care. Free pscychogonagin for trollish sock puppets.

I think there should be work requirements for pscychogonigin.

[WrestlingRasta]

I find it interesting how “question everything, don’t trust anything from government” comes and goes so easily….depending on which side of the government we’re talking about.  

[Scouts Honor]

3 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

The more I learn about this...I sorta like it.  Not seeing what is wrong with it at this point.  Plus, there is a similar program already in place in the US (I think since the 90's), this is just a different twist to it.  Everything I read, the first deciding factor will be the extensive vetting process and which absolutely should be very extensive.  I know people are going to say that money will buy their way through the vetting process, but I guess I don't find the boogeyman in everything and assume it will be very strict.  Seems like it would be a great revenue stream for the US as well as more than likely the people who can afford it will also bring a lot of tax money into the US and probably jobs.

For those that are against it I'd love to hear your perspective.  Please, don't waste your time if all you have is the "I hate Trum so that is why it is bad".

trump proposed it... thats the only test needed at this point