Jimmy Cinnabon Posted August 18 Posted August 18 We all know the HWC outperformed the NLWC at the Olympics. Spencer had the best performance of any man. Zain went 0-1, RBY went 0-1, Dake got 3rd (was favored to win), Snyder got 5th (was favored to medal). The bigger story is that the NLWC is going through major turnover. DT left the NLWC to become head coach of Ok State. Jimmy Kennedy left NLWC to join DT's staff. Zain is retiring to take a job on Wall Street; he has concussion issues that are ending his career. Nolf is moving to Texas to pursue BJJ. RBY just joined the Cowboy RTC. Dake is 34 years old and sounds like he might be retiring Gilman is gone. Iowa meanwhile is adding Stephen Buchannon and Jacori Teemer soon. They may add "Gabble" if he gets cut from the Bills. Seems like NLWC is on a downward spiral and Iowa is on the rise. 1
Idaho Posted August 18 Posted August 18 (edited) Fauxbon 2- Adding two AA to your college roster is not exactly putting Iowa in the RTC top spot. NLWC is losing guys, but they will restock with the next group up. You cited 7 guys leaving NLWC and 4 of them went to the Cowboy RTC. So you have the Cowboy RTC gaining 4 important pieces and HWC adds two college guys, but HWC is soon to be the top RTC? LOL Edited August 18 by Idaho 1 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT
Rassling Posted August 18 Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: We all know the HWC outperformed the NLWC at the Olympics. Spencer had the best performance of any man. Zain went 0-1, RBY went 0-1, Dake got 3rd (was favored to win), Snyder got 5th (was favored to medal). The bigger story is that the NLWC is going through major turnover. DT left the NLWC to become head coach of Ok State. Jimmy Kennedy left NLWC to join DT's staff. Zain is retiring to take a job on Wall Street; he has concussion issues that are ending his career. Nolf is moving to Texas to pursue BJJ. RBY just joined the Cowboy RTC. Dake is 34 years old and sounds like he might be retiring Gilman is gone. Iowa meanwhile is adding Stephen Buchannon and Jacori Teemer soon. They may add "Gabble" if he gets cut from the Bills. Seems like NLWC is on a downward spiral and Iowa is on the rise. Iowa will continue competing for less than first place for many years to come.
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 18 Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: We all know the HWC outperformed the NLWC at the Olympics. Spencer had the best performance of any man. Zain went 0-1, RBY went 0-1, Dake got 3rd (was favored to win), Snyder got 5th (was favored to medal). The bigger story is that the NLWC is going through major turnover. DT left the NLWC to become head coach of Ok State. Jimmy Kennedy left NLWC to join DT's staff. Zain is retiring to take a job on Wall Street; he has concussion issues that are ending his career. Nolf is moving to Texas to pursue BJJ. RBY just joined the Cowboy RTC. Dake is 34 years old and sounds like he might be retiring Gilman is gone. Iowa meanwhile is adding Stephen Buchannon and Jacori Teemer soon. They may add "Gabble" if he gets cut from the Bills. Seems like NLWC is on a downward spiral and Iowa is on the rise. Still auditioning for your dream job at The National Enquirer? 1 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
alex1fly Posted August 18 Posted August 18 22 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Still auditioning for your dream job at The National Enquirer? Breaking news! Newsworthy news breaks in newsworthy breakable fashion.
wrestle87 Posted August 18 Posted August 18 Also in this edition, "people in the know" announce that water is lighter than air, eating more food helps you lose weight, and humans don't need oxygen to breathe.
D3 for LU Posted August 18 Posted August 18 D3 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Elevator Posted August 18 Posted August 18 RTC depth, strength, and success will wax and wane. But isn't the bigger issue for success at the NCAA level going forward relative NIL war chests for recruits and transfers? Not saying RTC does not matter, but RTC are becoming a secondary consideration to NIL. Just a guess of the direction and likely destination in the next 5 to 10 years - I have no actual knowledge how its going other than PSU has been killing it at NCAAs.
fishbane Posted August 19 Posted August 19 8. Is Nick Lee going to be actively competing now that's he's an assistant coach. Even if Dake is done along with Lee and everyone else Jimmy listed NLWC still has Lilledahl, Bartlett, Haines, Messenbeink, Facundo, Starocci, Brooks, Dean, Mirasola, Snyder, and Kerkvliet who all qualified for the last Olympic trials. HWC only had two wrestlers at the OTT Spencer Lee and Alex Marinelli. Marinelli retired. Spencer sounds like he's on the fence. Sure they picked up Buchannon and Teamer, but they are still way behind.
ionel Posted August 19 Posted August 19 2 hours ago, fishbane said: 8. Is Nick Lee going to be actively competing now that's he's an assistant coach. Even if Dake is done along with Lee and everyone else Jimmy listed NLWC still has Lilledahl, Barttlett, Hainnes, Messenbeink, Faccundo, Starrocci, Brookks, Deean, Mirrasola, Snyyder, and Kerkkvliet who all qualified for the last Olympic trials. HWC only had two wrestlers at the OTT Spenncer Lee and Alex Marrinelli. Marrinelli retired. Spenncer sounds like he's on the fence. Sure they picked up Buchannon and Teammer, but they are still way behind. ftfy .
Gus Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Points 1 through 8 are all valid and do point to NLWC going through a significant change and possibly less horsepower than they had this time last year. That being said, HWC is still a long ways behind NLWC.
Alces Alces Gigas Posted August 19 Posted August 19 100% of the Hawkeye Olympic wrestling competitors made it to the podium. NLWC can not say that!!
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted August 19 Author Posted August 19 7 minutes ago, Alces Alces Gigas said: 100% of the Hawkeye Olympic wrestling competitors made it to the podium. NLWC can not say that!! https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/hwc-out-performs-nlwc.449155/
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 19 Posted August 19 10 minutes ago, Alces Alces Gigas said: 100% of the Hawkeye Olympic wrestling competitors made it to the podium. NLWC can not say that!! HWC earned more medals per pound, per inch of height, inch of width, and inch of depth of wrestler(s). Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Dogbone Posted August 19 Posted August 19 43 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: HWC earned more medals per pound, per inch of height, inch of width, and inch of depth of wrestler(s). I am already looking forward to @Wrestleknownothing trend lines over the last 10 years of NCAA AA's per height/inch of depth!
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 19 Posted August 19 5 minutes ago, Dogbone said: I am already looking forward to @Wrestleknownothing trend lines over the last 10 years of NCAA AA's per height/inch of depth! Dammit. I am on vacation or this would already be done. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
ionel Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Dammit. I am on vacation or this would already be done. Vacation? You can take a vacation from work but not from statistics! .
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