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https://news.gallup.com/poll/506765/social-conservatism-highest-decade.aspx

I've been saying this all along. Becoming a radical right wing country, both fiscally and socially. Large corporations are manipulating our entire system. All I hear every day are lies coming from the right-wing propaganda machine and common folks are swallowing it up hook line and sinker while the right continues to dumb down our education system. 

This country is also becoming a better and better safe haven for the ultra-wealthy. Pretty soon people will be stashing their money here instead of the Cayman Islands. Why, not when the top 1% pay a lower tax rate than the middle class? What a great tax system. 

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4 minutes ago, red viking said:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/506765/social-conservatism-highest-decade.aspx

I've been saying this all along. Becoming a radical right wing country, both fiscally and socially. Large corporations are manipulating our entire system. All I hear every day are lies coming from the right-wing propaganda machine and common folks are swallowing it up hook line and sinker while the right continues to dumb down our education system. 

This country is also becoming a better and better safe haven for the ultra-wealthy. Pretty soon people will be stashing their money here instead of the Cayman Islands. Why, not when the top 1% pay a lower tax rate than the middle class? What a great tax system. 

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Conservative view points remain disappointingly low but headed in the best direction.  Thanks for sharing.

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26 minutes ago, red viking said:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/506765/social-conservatism-highest-decade.aspx

I've been saying this all along. Becoming a radical right wing country, both fiscally and socially. Large corporations are manipulating our entire system. All I hear every day are lies coming from the right-wing propaganda machine and common folks are swallowing it up hook line and sinker while the right continues to dumb down our education system. 

This country is also becoming a better and better safe haven for the ultra-wealthy. Pretty soon people will be stashing their money here instead of the Cayman Islands. Why, not when the top 1% pay a lower tax rate than the middle class? What a great tax system. 

That America is shifting towards more conservative common-sense values is the one thing that just might save America. To many hardworking, patriotic conservative Americans this is great news. The woke left has been trying to Fundamentally Transform America. Those were President Obama's own words. Well guess what, hardworking Americans are not going to put up with open border, climate change malarky. So, either be part of the solution or continue being the major problem.

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56 minutes ago, red viking said:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/506765/social-conservatism-highest-decade.aspx

I've been saying this all along. Becoming a radical right wing country, both fiscally and socially. Large corporations are manipulating our entire system. All I hear every day are lies coming from the right-wing propaganda machine and common folks are swallowing it up hook line and sinker while the right continues to dumb down our education system. 

This country is also becoming a better and better safe haven for the ultra-wealthy. Pretty soon people will be stashing their money here instead of the Cayman Islands. Why, not when the top 1% pay a lower tax rate than the middle class? What a great tax system. 

Re: taxes

You are blending two different things. When people talk taxes and tax rates, they are almost always talking about income taxes. But virtually every wealthy person has gotten their wealth from investments.

Wealth disparities are an inevitable outcome of a free market. If you are 10% better at farming in an agrarian economy, you will be modestly better off than your fellow farmers. But in a free market economy you borrow money to buy out all the other farmers, run their farms more efficiently, and become wildly wealthy when you capitalize that income stream and sell it to investors. In exchange, we all get more efficient food production.

This is an argument you will often hear Warren Buffet make.

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Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge

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2 hours ago, red viking said:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/506765/social-conservatism-highest-decade.aspx

I've been saying this all along. Becoming a radical right wing country, both fiscally and socially. Large corporations are manipulating our entire system. All I hear every day are lies coming from the right-wing propaganda machine and common folks are swallowing it up hook line and sinker while the right continues to dumb down our education system. 

This country is also becoming a better and better safe haven for the ultra-wealthy. Pretty soon people will be stashing their money here instead of the Cayman Islands. Why, not when the top 1% pay a lower tax rate than the middle class? What a great tax system. 

how gave the large corporations all the power? 

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1 hour ago, Paul158 said:

That America is shifting towards more conservative common-sense values is the one thing that just might save America. To many hardworking, patriotic conservative Americans this is great news. The woke left has been trying to Fundamentally Transform America. Those were President Obama's own words. Well guess what, hardworking Americans are not going to put up with open border, climate change malarky. So, either be part of the solution or continue being the major problem.

But not exactly "Going Off The Deep End." 

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1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Re: taxes

You are blending two different things. When people talk taxes and tax rates, they are almost always talking about income taxes. But virtually every wealthy person has gotten their wealth from investments.

Wealth disparities are an inevitable outcome of a free market. If you are 10% better at farming in an agrarian economy, you will be modestly better off than your fellow farmers. But in a free market economy you borrow money to buy out all the other farmers, run their farms more efficiently, and become wildly wealthy when you capitalize that income stream and sell it to investors. In exchange, we all get more efficient food production.

This is an argument you will often hear Warren Buffet make.

Yes, the entire tax code has been rigged by the GOP

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Just now, red viking said:

Yes, the entire tax code has been rigged by the GOP

That's certainly most impressive given all the times the Dems have controlled Congress and the Presidency.  Bravo you sneaky GOPers!  😃

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58 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Re: taxes

You are blending two different things. When people talk taxes and tax rates, they are almost always talking about income taxes. But virtually every wealthy person has gotten their wealth from investments.

Wealth disparities are an inevitable outcome of a free market. If you are 10% better at farming in an agrarian economy, you will be modestly better off than your fellow farmers. But in a free market economy you borrow money to buy out all the other farmers, run their farms more efficiently, and become wildly wealthy when you capitalize that income stream and sell it to investors. In exchange, we all get more efficient food production.

This is an argument you will often hear Warren Buffet make.

And with increased gov’t regulation, the smaller, private farms get squeezed out and taken over by the corporate farms where taxes are compensated through the employees and consumers.  And the left loves the regulatory bureaucracy. 

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2 hours ago, red viking said:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/506765/social-conservatism-highest-decade.aspx

I've been saying this all along. Becoming a radical right wing country, both fiscally and socially. Large corporations are manipulating our entire system. All I hear every day are lies coming from the right-wing propaganda machine (You could say the same thing for the left wing, very easily) and common folks are swallowing it up hook line and sinker while the right (who is in charge of education?  D for the most part.   Look in the mirror) continues to dumb down our education system. 

This country is also becoming a better and better safe haven for the ultra-wealthy. Pretty soon people will be stashing their money here instead of the Cayman Islands. Why, not when the top 1% pay a lower tax rate than the middle class? What a great tax system. 

RV, honestly, this just all sounds like projection.  

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1 hour ago, red viking said:

Yes, the entire tax code has been rigged by the GOP

The tax code favors investing, as it should. As a result more people should be saving and investing instead of blaming the tax code.

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Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge

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Would this be a good time for me to get called out for being a dumb ass for saying that until both sides of nut jobs start spending more time working on shit together than they do on trying to find any way to blast and blame the other….continually making everything in politics and governing more extreme…nothing changes direction, and alls well that ends well! 

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2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Would this be a good time for me to get called out for being a dumb ass for saying that until both sides of nut jobs start spending more time working on shit together than they do on trying to find any way to blast and blame the other….continually making everything in politics and governing more extreme…nothing changes direction, and alls well that ends well! 

Yes ... you can say term limits!

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5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I’ve made my opinion pretty well known around here on term limits. 

The people in office now will never work with each other, maybe we can get you to change your mind.  🙂

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2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

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5 hours ago, red viking said:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/506765/social-conservatism-highest-decade.aspx

I've been saying this all along. Becoming a radical right wing country, both fiscally and socially. Large corporations are manipulating our entire system. All I hear every day are lies coming from the right-wing propaganda machine and common folks are swallowing it up hook line and sinker while the right continues to dumb down our education system. 

This country is also becoming a better and better safe haven for the ultra-wealthy. Pretty soon people will be stashing their money here instead of the Cayman Islands. Why, not when the top 1% pay a lower tax rate than the middle class? What a great tax system. 

there were open air sex acts in dozens of major cities last weekend.

tell me again how this country is becoming oppressively conservative. 

 

the surgeon general is Indian. of the last six surgeon generals, one has been a white male.

the lady that is Secretary of Health, is a dude.

The Vice President is a black woman who used to blow Montell Williams.

The Secretary of Transportation is an unqualified gay man.

there's mass illegal immigration and very soft on crime policies. 

affirmative action/DEI is at an all time high. 

trans surgeries are at an all time high.

abortions are back on the rise. 

there are open air drug markets and govt issued drugs in dozens of major cities.

the new Aide to the President is an Anti-Jew crossdresser.

 

what fantasy world are you living in that leads you to believe this country is trending right?

 

all of the above on the heels of '81 million votes' for what was clearly the most radical left agenda in history.

how out of touch can one be? 

 

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agree, rasta.

one thing i'm consistently left scratching my head about is...

why don't the people come together and say 'we'll vote you out unless you...'  ??

imo, the smartest thing we, as constituents can do is say

'if this congress doesn't vote for term limits, all of you will be voted out immediately.'

i hate to sound like an old curmudgeon, but the power is in the peoples' hands. the people are just too stupid/lazy for them to execute it. 

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TBD

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6 hours ago, red viking said:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/506765/social-conservatism-highest-decade.aspx

I've been saying this all along. Becoming a radical right wing country, both fiscally and socially. Large corporations are manipulating our entire system. All I hear every day are lies coming from the right-wing propaganda machine and common folks are swallowing it up hook line and sinker while the right continues to dumb down our education system. 

This country is also becoming a better and better safe haven for the ultra-wealthy. Pretty soon people will be stashing their money here instead of the Cayman Islands. Why, not when the top 1% pay a lower tax rate than the middle class? What a great tax system. 

why are all your post bombastic, simplistic and void of any nuance?

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"Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."

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19 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

why are all your post bombastic, simplistic and void of any nuance?

 

Oh look.

 

A "capitalist" who owns no capital is here to defend capitalism. 

 

How rare. 

 

Capitalism is the private ownership of public property. 

 

Why, oh why, if capitalism is sssssssoooooo infallible, does it require a socialistic bailout every few years? 

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