Hammerlock3 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 the more this goes on the more i think its gonna be really grey area...i dont believe usaw is trying to cover up for a full blown pedophile. Flo should be finding the pertinent details but they suck... 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
VakAttack Posted June 22 Posted June 22 27 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: the more this goes on the more i think its gonna be really grey area...i dont believe usaw is trying to cover up for a full blown pedophile. Flo should be finding the pertinent details but they suck... I mean....doesn't history tell us that is exactly what organizations do? USA gymnastics, the Catholoc Church, PSU football. 4
Hammerlock3 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 24 minutes ago, VakAttack said: I mean....doesn't history tell us that is exactly what organizations do? USA gymnastics, the Catholoc Church, PSU football. those narratives are very compelling so we know about them, doesnt make them normal, and in all your examples the conspirators seem like they had way more to lose. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
VakAttack Posted June 22 Posted June 22 43 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: those narratives are very compelling so we know about them, doesnt make them normal, and in all your examples the conspirators seem like they had way more to lose. Those are just the most famous scandals, but I'm not sure that I'd agree thay USA gymnastics had THAT much more at risk than USA wrestling. But there are hundreds and thousands of scandals like that, both on big (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal) and small scales (This one just happened where i live: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wcjb.com/2024/05/31/former-vanguard-high-school-dean-arrested-sexual-offenses-against-students/%3foutputType=amp , but this is a tale as old as time; then you have the intrafamily stories of the "don't leave kids alone with Uncle Jim..." variety.)
PortaJohn Posted June 22 Posted June 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, VakAttack said: I mean....doesn't history tell us that is exactly what organizations do? USA gymnastics, the Catholoc Church, PSU football. Vak, Obviously on Hrovat's side on this issue but him posting it online how open is he to say defamation? Is he legally protected bringing this issue to a public forum? Edited June 22 by PortaJohn I Don't Agree With What I Posted
CHROMEBIRD Posted June 22 Posted June 22 5 hours ago, Willis said: Flo generally tries to not run afoul of USAW. I don't think they will touch it. Consider who retweeted Hrovat in the original post.
Formally140 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Unfortunately, this is probably going to set a precedent. Enabling other nonsense and protecting of people who shouldn't be. I wonder how long it'll go on or if it'll actually get exposed
billyhoyle Posted June 22 Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Formally140 said: Unfortunately, this is probably going to set a precedent. Enabling other nonsense and protecting of people who shouldn't be. I wonder how long it'll go on or if it'll actually get exposed The precedent has been going on for years, unfortunately.
VakAttack Posted June 22 Posted June 22 2 hours ago, PortaJohn said: Vak, Obviously on Hrovat's side on this issue but him posting it online how open is he to say defamation? Is he legally protected bringing this issue to a public forum? Extremely unlikely IMO, unless Hrovat were just outright lying. Truth is a complete defense to anything like that (defamation/slander/libel). Also opinions and whistleblowing have protections as well. 2
Formally140 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 1 hour ago, billyhoyle said: The precedent has been going on for years, unfortunately. I'm aware. It's one of the trends that has me reconsidering how much longer I want to be involved in this world honestly
ionel Posted June 22 Posted June 22 7 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: Flo should be finding the pertinent details but they suck... ... but is that their job? Maybe they should also be investigating why Jimmy doesn't pay his debts. .
Hammerlock3 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 3 minutes ago, ionel said: ... but is that their job? Maybe they should also be investigating why Jimmy doesn't pay his debts. i would joyously flabbergasted by either "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
AgaveMaria Posted June 23 Posted June 23 What is the reason for the letter? It does not specify what was supposedly done. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”.
MethaneMan Posted June 23 Posted June 23 9 hours ago, AgaveMaria said: What is the reason for the letter? It does not specify what was supposedly done. "Actions toward other coaches". Left purposely vague bc there were no actions toward other coaches worthy of suspension.
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WrestlingRasta Posted August 19 Posted August 19 On 6/22/2024 at 12:47 PM, Hammerlock3 said: those narratives are very compelling so we know about them, doesnt make them normal, and in all your examples the conspirators seem like they had way more to lose. I used to do alot of safe sport training for the USOC when it was first coming out. For every case you hear about.....there are nine that you do not. Not saying that says anything about this particular case, but it is more 'normal' than most people think.
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