cangemi Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Part of life. He is a winner confident will land on his feet. Too much to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 On 6/29/2024 at 9:57 AM, 1032004 said: Coleman Scott tells @Jason Bryant “we may have seen his last days in the sport” https://www.on3.com/news/coleman-scott-coaching-future-last-days-sport-wrestling-oklahoma-state-hall-of-fame/ Wow, then the Cowboy Screwjob is even worse than I thought. Head Coach of a successful D-1 program at UNC -> assistant at OK State -> out of the sport completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatDane67 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 All we hear about on this forum is how he got screwed. How did his recruits at UNC feel when he left them to be the alleged coach in waiting at OSU? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 All we hear about on this forum is how he got screwed. How did his recruits at UNC feel when he left them to be the alleged coach in waiting at OSU?Ouch but good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 12 hours ago, GreatDane67 said: All we hear about on this forum is how he got screwed. How did his recruits at UNC feel when he left them to be the alleged coach in waiting at OSU? Coleman took a calculated risk and it did not pan out for him. He will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 17 minutes ago, Gus said: Coleman took a calculated risk and it did not pan out for him. He will be okay. Does going from D1 Head Coach to out of the sport completely sound OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 10 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Does going from D1 Head Coach to out of the sport completely sound OK? He went from D1 Associate Head Coach to out of the sport completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 35 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Does going from D1 Head Coach to out of the sport completely sound OK? He would still be a D1 head coach at UNC if he did not choose to pursue a different position. Again, he will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 any truth at all to the allegations that he engaged in some funny business with RTC funds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 29 minutes ago, Gus said: He would still be a D1 head coach at UNC if he did not choose to pursue a different position. Again, he will be okay. Do you see him landing another D-1 coaching job? How about D-2 or D-3? High school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 13 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Do you see him landing another D-1 coaching job? How about D-2 or D-3? High school? Isn't there only 1 college with those positions where he currently lives? A high school job probably isn't going to pay the bills. Maybe he doesn't want to move his family a second time in a year to a 3rd city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Do you see him landing another D-1 coaching job? How about D-2 or D-3? High school? Apparently Rutgers just reached out to him regarding their vacant assistant head coaching job. He will be high on the list for all vacant D1 jobs. He would be a lock for any D2, D3 and HS coaching jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Does going from D1 Head Coach to out of the sport completely sound OK? His choice - Scott could land a HC or assistant job at a D1 school pretty easily - if he doesn't it will be because he is making that choice, not because he has been banished. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 21 minutes ago, Gus said: Apparently Rutgers just reached out to him regarding their vacant assistant head coaching job. He will be high on the list for all vacant D1 jobs. He would be a lock for any D2, D3 and HS coaching jobs. but live in the jerseys . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRound Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, ionel said: but live in the jerseys He lived in Oklahoma. I think he can manage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1fly Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 “I interviewed for a job and didn’t get it. They screwed me” is not the mentality of an Olympic medalist. Or probably any wrestler for that matter. IMO. Betcha his family doesn’t want to move again so soon and there’s no D1 openings nearby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 hours ago, BloodRound said: He lived in Oklahoma. I think he can manage. No one i know who lives in Oklahoma would move to New Jersey. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 56 minutes ago, ionel said: No one i know who lives in Oklahoma would move to New Jersey. This really only matters if you know Coleman Scott! Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, alex1fly said: “I interviewed for a job and didn’t get it. They screwed me” is not the mentality of an Olympic medalist. Or probably any wrestler for that matter. IMO. Betcha his family doesn’t want to move again so soon and there’s no D1 openings nearby. Surprising -- the almost complete lack of sympathy toward Coleman Scott. The view here seems to be "tough cookies, you'll be fine." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 minute ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Surprising -- the almost complete lack of sympathy toward Coleman Scott. The view here seems to be "tough cookies, you'll be fine." What is the reason for sympathy? It seems like he rolled the dice and lost. He left a head coaching job for the chance at a different head coaching job. I know some have theorized he was promised the other head coaching job, but others have theorized he was not promised. I am not aware of any claim by Scott that he was promised the job. So absent any promises, he just miscalculated. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 It sucks for Coleman and he seems like a great guy. That being said no program is going to turn down David Taylor, especially when you couple in the financial backing that came with him. The timing is unfortunate for Coleman with the main jobs being filled prior to his departure but there will be openings and are current jobs for him. As mentioned, the assistant spot at Rutgers as well as the developmental job for the cadet and junior guys which is a pretty sought after position. He will bounce back, I'm sure it stings now but when the dust settles it should fuel him to just be an even better coach and show Okie state what they missed out on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1fly Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Surprising -- the almost complete lack of sympathy toward Coleman Scott. The view here seems to be "tough cookies, you'll be fine." Do know it’s far more complicated than that. Espo left and we were shocked. Then Coleman came in and we were so stoked. The improvement and energy was apparent. He was all in. The athletes seemed jazzed. We started to look like the OSU of old again. Then John retired, which we knew would happen eventually but didn’t know when until the announcement. Then Coleman lost the job to a literal GOAT of American wrestling. So yes, sad for Coleman because we were excited to have him take over. But also excited to have David Taylor come in. So if you want to push a narrative that’s fine but recognize that it’s complex for anybody that follows the program even when it’s not making headlines. It’s been a roller coaster and every OSU fan I know is still making sense of it which will probably take several years of actual wrestling. Edited July 2 by alex1fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtownPoke Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 OSU people love Coleman. The fact that it was even a close decision and the division it’s causes within the alumni base tells you all you need to know about how OSU people feel about CS. It’s a terrible deal and he did deserve better. At the same time, I can’t imagine anyone not coming to the same conclusion that Weiberg did when he hired DT. I’d absolutely love for CS to be a part of the program in some way but that’s just not happening at this point. Too many hills for DT to climb foe him to take that risk. He has to assert himself and his new culture. There can’t be two perceived leaders or any kind of clinging to the old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 On 6/29/2024 at 8:53 AM, H82Lose said: A few rumors floating around, he is going to stay in Oklahoma and get into sales. On 6/29/2024 at 5:46 PM, AgaveMaria said: What, selling tornado proof trailers? He should start a business selling beds. Call it Coleman's Cot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaMustang Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 13 hours ago, alex1fly said: Do know it’s far more complicated than that. Espo left and we were shocked. Then Coleman came in and we were so stoked. The improvement and energy was apparent. He was all in. The athletes seemed jazzed. We started to look like the OSU of old again. Then John retired, which we knew would happen eventually but didn’t know when until the announcement. Then Coleman lost the job to a literal GOAT of American wrestling. So yes, sad for Coleman because we were excited to have him take over. But also excited to have David Taylor come in. So if you want to push a narrative that’s fine but recognize that it’s complex for anybody that follows the program even when it’s not making headlines. It’s been a roller coaster and every OSU fan I know is still making sense of it which will probably take several years of actual wrestling. I just want to chime in that as much as we love DT (myself included), he is not the GOAT of American wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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