H82Lose Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I know this topic is kicked around alot with my friends, but I wanted to see what others think. Some of it may be, the kid was overhyped coming in and just really wasn't that good. One I was thinking about the other day was 133 for Iowa. Schriever was a hammer coming out of high school, I watched him several times. What happened to him? Weight cut? Because he looks like a shell of what he was in high school. Ybarra, again, stud in high school, but I haven't seen him but a couple of times. Monday at NC, he really never progressed during his college career. Sometimes, I wonder if kids are just happy to be there? Hey I made it, kind of thing. I am sure there are a bunch more to discuss, but these were off the top of my head. Dom Demas, comes out of nowhere, and then fades off. Fix, is a STUD, but has he got better? That might be a bad example, but threw it out there anyway. Mastrogiovanni 125 Okie State, progress or digress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I have seen some interviews with Suriano where he certainly digressed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 HS stud does not make you a DI AA. There are countless examples. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Like most kids that age, college is the first time, for many, that they are free from the shackles of parents oversight/discipline. I would imagine that a certain percentage of high achieving high schoolers, both academically and athletically owe some of their success to the efforts of their parents. Coaches CAN fill that role for a lot of kids, but not all. Lots of life distractions on college campuses and some adapt better than others. Those intangibles can be tough to sniff out during the recruiting process, and coaches place various levels of importance on them. I don’t believe there are any appreciable differences between the top 20 or so programs in their approach to this issue. Some kids will remain focused and get better, a few will lose focus for various reasons and stagnate. DI wrestling is HARD, and hard times don’t build character, they reveal it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: I have seen some interviews with Suriano where he certainly digressed. ???? 2022 NCAA Champ, just looked great at the World Cup....thought he would get more than one match. Edited December 16, 2022 by Fadzaev2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, Fadzaev2 said: ???? di·gress /dīˈɡres/ Learn to pronounce verb leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing. 2 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, jchapman said: di·gress /dīˈɡres/ Learn to pronounce verb leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing. I hear ya.... I think the OP wanted it to mean the opposite of progress, meaning get worse. I revised my post after you saw it as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, jchapman said: di·gress /dīˈɡres/ "220-221, Whatever it takes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tigerfan said: Like most kids that age, college is the first time, for many, that they are free from the shackles of parents oversight/discipline. I would imagine that a certain percentage of high achieving high schoolers, both academically and athletically owe some of their success to the efforts of their parents. Coaches CAN fill that role for a lot of kids, but not all. Lots of life distractions on college campuses and some adapt better than others. Those intangibles can be tough to sniff out during the recruiting process, and coaches place various levels of importance on them. I don’t believe there are any appreciable differences between the top 20 or so programs in their approach to this issue. Some kids will remain focused and get better, a few will lose focus for various reasons and stagnate. DI wrestling is HARD, and hard times don’t build character, they reveal it. In high school I was a straight A student. With the freedom to sleep in, skip classes, and drink beer, boy did I regress. But, I digress...what was the topic? 4 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 What programs do kids seem to progress and digress in? pretty much all of them.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Fadzaev2 said: I hear ya.... I think the OP wanted it to mean the opposite of progress, meaning get worse. I revised my post after you saw it as well. Congress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, jchapman said: di·gress /dīˈɡres/ Learn to pronounce verb leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing. so ... maybe wrestling in the English program 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, ionel said: so ... maybe wrestlers in the English program ^^^ darn autocorrect & Bob's 15 min rule . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Has anybody mentioned how Ohio State takes gents with an average high school 'down' game and turns them in to rotten logs on bottom by the time they graduate? 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 It becomes a job. Not everyone can handle that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Ethan Smith hasn't improved since arriving in Columbus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I thought the consensus on this board is that the only wrestler to ever regress in college is Jacob Cardenas 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Ethan Smith hasn't improved since arriving in Columbus You can eat an 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, PortaJohn said: I thought the consensus on this board is that the only wrestler to ever regress in college is Jacob Cardenas He earned a higher preseason NCAAs Folkstyle ranking because of his U23s Freestyoe performance than where he currently sits because of his loss to a much lower ranked Amos so technically he did regress due to his horrible 0-1 record on the season. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, nhs67 said: He earned a higher preseason NCAAs Folkstyle ranking because of his U23s Freestyoe performance than where he currently sits because of his loss to a much lower ranked Amos so technically he did regress due to his horrible 0-1 record on the season. I'm just teasing. Having some fun 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, PortaJohn said: I'm just teasing. Having some fun We all are, mate. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 48 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I thought the consensus on this board is that the only wrestler to ever regress in college is Jacob Cardenas folks just can't stay on topic with this thread 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ionel said: folks just can't stay on topic with this thread Unfortunately I digressed 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) Definitely showed some digression in college. Edited December 16, 2022 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Multi time age group world champ that digressed in college 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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