JimmyBT Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I took the latest Intermat Tournament Top 10 teams and cross referenced it with the person Wrestlestat has listed as the starter at each weight for these ten teams. Here is what I came up with as Tranfers starting on the current Intermat top ten. Disclaimer: I did this in 20 minutes so feel free to add corrections. 1. Penn State - (4) Nagao, Messinbrink, Truax, Kirk 2. Iowa - (4) Teske, Woods, Franek, Caliendo [5 if Voinovich ends up starting] 3. NC State - None 4. Missouri - (1) Gioffre 5. Oklahoma St - (4) Spratley, Jamison, Alvarez, Olejnik 6. Virginia Tech - None 7. Lehigh - (1) Beard 8. Cornell - None 9. Michigan - (4) DeAugustino, Gomez, Griffith, Davison (5 if Cannon didn’t get hurt) 10. Iowa St - (2) Echemendia, Feldcamp (3 if Chittum leaving HWC counts) Not sure what this means, if anything, but 20% (maybe plus) of the starters on the current top ten teams are transfers. Would be interesting to be able to compare this to NIL money available 1
1032004 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) 18 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: I took the latest Intermat Tournament Top 10 teams and cross referenced it with the person Wrestlestat has listed as the starter at each weight for these ten teams. Here is what I came up with as Tranfers starting on the current Intermat top ten. Disclaimer: I did this in 20 minutes so feel free to add corrections. 1. Penn State - (4) Nagao, Messinbrink, Truax, Kirk 2. Iowa - (4) Teske, Woods, Franek, Caliendo [5 if Voinovich ends up starting] 3. NC State - None 4. Missouri - (1) Gioffre 5. Oklahoma St - (4) Spratley, Jamison, Alvarez, Olejnik 6. Virginia Tech - None 7. Lehigh - (1) Beard 8. Cornell - None 9. Michigan - (4) DeAugustino, Gomez, Griffith, Davison (5 if Cannon didn’t get hurt) 10. Iowa St - (2) Echemendia, Feldcamp (3 if Chittum leaving HWC counts) Not sure what this means, if anything, but 20% (maybe plus) of the starters on the current top ten teams are transfers. Would be interesting to be able to compare this to NIL money available Isn’t most of Cornell’s team transfers from TCCC? Edited January 31 by 1032004
JimmyBT Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Isn’t most of Cornell’s team transfers from TCCC? I don’t know. Are they? I was just going with other colleges that compete in the NCAA tournament ( plus chittum whom left because of the Ferraris ) Edited January 31 by JimmyBT
flyingcement Posted January 31 Posted January 31 It is interesting and I have noticed it over the years that Missouri and NC state stand out as the best teams which do not rely on the portal in any significant way. NC State seems to have a very specific type of person they look for (committing to zero tolerance for alcohol even for above aged students during the offseason). Missouri has had the odd transfer here and there, but it doesn't tend to be one of their better guys. NC State is actually a net contributor to the transfer portal in a major way. Seems like either guys get caught with bad behavior and are sent packing or they realize the squad is too deep and want to have a chance contributing somewhere. 2
buckshot Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Just for the record Kerkvleit never actually wrestled for OSU, he flipped his commitment but didn't transfer.
SetonHallPirate Posted January 31 Posted January 31 37 minutes ago, buckshot said: Just for the record Kerkvleit never actually wrestled for OSU, he flipped his commitment but didn't transfer. He never wrestled there, but he was definitely enrolled, and certainly transferred. 4
Antitroll2828 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 45 minutes ago, SetonHallPirate said: He never wrestled there, but he was definitely enrolled, and certainly transferred. He was never on campus , he was taking online classes while training for worlds and then transferred right after 1
billyhoyle Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: He was never on campus , he was taking online classes while training for worlds and then transferred right after Online classes at Ohio State University? Sounds like a transfer. Edited January 31 by billyhoyle 2
11986 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 8 hours ago, flyingcement said: It is interesting and I have noticed it over the years that Missouri and NC state stand out as the best teams which do not rely on the portal in any significant way. NC State seems to have a very specific type of person they look for (committing to zero tolerance for alcohol even for above aged students during the offseason). Missouri has had the odd transfer here and there, but it doesn't tend to be one of their better guys. NC State is actually a net contributor to the transfer portal in a major way. Seems like either guys get caught with bad behavior and are sent packing or they realize the squad is too deep and want to have a chance contributing somewhere. True, but NCState did benefit greatly from one transfer. Gwiz coming over with Coach Pop really got things moving for the Wolfpack.
Alces Alces Gigas Posted January 31 Posted January 31 2 hours ago, billyhoyle said: Online classes at Ohio State University? Sounds like a transfer. Only if he was taking 12 credits
JimmyBT Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 (edited) 6 hours ago, buckshot said: Just for the record Kerkvleit never actually wrestled for OSU, he flipped his commitment but didn't transfer. He never wrestled at Minnesota or Oklahoma St either. But he was enrolled at OHio st before transferring to Penn St He entered the transfer portal while enrolled at Ohio St Edited January 31 by JimmyBT
1032004 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 5 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: He was never on campus , he was taking online classes while training for worlds and then transferred right after Was he training at the Ohio RTC?
1032004 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 So what teams have contributed the most TO the portal this season? Probably forgetting some and I know some were grad transfers or extenuating circumstances: Minnesota: Ramos, Nagao, Spratley Stanford: Griffith and Woods NDSU: Franek and Caliendo NC State: Noto and Poulin PSU: Beard, Nevills and Teske (can’t remember if Teske leaving PSU was pre-portal) UNI: Teske and Blockhus Iowa: Henson and unofficially Chittum Wisconsin: Gomez and Burwikkkk
JimmyBT Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 7 hours ago, buckshot said: Just for the record Kerkvleit never actually wrestled for OSU, he flipped his commitment but didn't transfer. He entered the transfer portal while at Ohio St
Idaho Posted January 31 Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: He entered the transfer portal while at Ohio St Yep... hard to transfer "out" of OSUe if you were never "in" OSUe. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6588186-breaking-greg-kerkvliet-has-entered-the-transfer-portal 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT
steamboat_charlie Posted January 31 Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Idaho said: Yep... hard to transfer "out" of OSUe if you were never "in" OSUe. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6588186-breaking-greg-kerkvliet-has-entered-the-transfer-portal What's with the "OSUe?"
MPhillips Posted January 31 Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: What's with the "OSUe?" They mean OSU. They just like to poke... .
Idaho Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) 16 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: What's with the "OSUe?" location location location Edited January 31 by Idaho 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT
Dogbone Posted January 31 Posted January 31 What place would the PSU or Iowa transfers on their own? What place would an all transfer team place at NCAAs? got to be top 5 right?
MNRodent Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Minnesota had 7 wrestlers transfer this off-season that are currently starting on their new team... Spratley (OSU), Nagao (PSU), Jamison (OSU), Polanco (Pur), Lee (IND), Carlson (OU), Kluever (Hof). Michigan had 5 All-Americans transfer in, and yet Minnesota still has a higher ranked dual team. #Development 4 1
MPhillips Posted January 31 Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, MNRodent said: Minnesota had 7 wrestlers transfer this off-season that are currently starting on their new team... I don't believe they're included because the IM ranking has them at sixteen in the tourney rankings. I believe OSU has only one transfer, 125lber Fenton, who is third in the depth chart... .
poorwrestler Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Minnesota had 7 wrestlers transfer this off-season that are currently starting on their new team... Spratley (OSU), Nagao (PSU), Jamison (OSU), Polanco (Pur), Lee (IND), Carlson (OU), Kluever (Hof). Michigan had 5 All-Americans transfer in, and yet Minnesota still has a higher ranked dual team. #Development This is brutal. Need to reverse some of those transfer portal numbers with all the guys we’re going to graduate this offseason. Eggum will have money to throw around, gotta use it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
JimmyBT Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 28 minutes ago, MNRodent said: Minnesota had 7 wrestlers transfer this off-season that are currently starting on their new team... Spratley (OSU), Nagao (PSU), Jamison (OSU), Polanco (Pur), Lee (IND), Carlson (OU), Kluever (Hof). Michigan had 5 All-Americans transfer in, and yet Minnesota still has a higher ranked dual team. #Development So they develop for duals but not the tournament. Got it.
1032004 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, MPhillips said: I don't believe they're included because the IM ranking has them at sixteen in the tourney rankings. I believe OSU has only one transfer, 125lber Fenton, who is third in the depth chart... Does Echemendia count?
JimmyBT Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: Does Echemendia count? For Iowa St he does 1
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