Valencia

[nhs67]

23 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

thanks skippy

You're welcome.

[de4856]

I know that it’s useless to say this but where’s Bo Nickal when you need him. He could be the guy at 92. 

[WrestlingRasta]

20 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

Sooooo the David Taylor problem? I mean, you brought up Grand Prix so that’s instantly where my mind went. Quite an ironic comparison methinks

 it is one thing to beat a medalist, it is another to win a medal.   That's all I said.  Relax folks.  It's okay.

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[nhs67]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 it is one thing to beat a medalist, it is another to win a medal.   That's all I said.  Relax folks.  It's okay.

... Didn't you say that he was incapable of bringing home a medal?  Wasn't that your stance?

It is okay for you to have an opinion.  It is also okay for it to be wrong.  Relax.  It's okay.

[Jim L]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 it is one thing to beat a medalist, it is another to win a medal.   That's all I said.  Relax folks.  It's okay.

And it is another thing to have beaten multiple medalists.  If you can regularly beat guys that have won medals it should be obvious that you should be viewed as a medal threat.

[mspart]

Then become a member of another nation's team and qualify the weight.

mspart

[nhs67]

I believe the writing is on the wall for Valencia.

If he were going to head to Mexico he would have already.

Unfortunately for us gents who want to see him do that, if he competes at 92 KG, I believe he wins the spot for us.  That gives him a shot at a medal at Worlds this year.  If(when) he wins that medal the cost to transfer becomes considerably more.

[mspart]

With his #2 finish at US Nationals at 84, can he then enter the WTTs at 92kg?  That would be a viable move if it is possible. 

mspart

[Le duke]

With his #2 finish at US Nationals at 84, can he then enter the WTTs at 92kg?  That would be a viable move if it is possible. 
mspart

He’s already entered at 92kg.


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[mspart]

Ah ok.   I didn't even know that was possible.  This might be very interesting. 

mspart

[Plasmodium]

Has a country has ever swept an Olympics?  For example -

Gold - Valencia, Mexico

Silver - Amine, San Marino

Bronze - Taylor, USA

Bronze - Ramos, Puerto Rico

[gimpeltf]

3 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

Has a country has ever swept an Olympics?  For example -

Gold - Valencia, Mexico

Silver - Amine, San Marino

Bronze - Taylor, USA

Bronze - Ramos, Puerto Rico

1904 (I know)

Games	Gold	Silver	Bronze
Light flyweight details	Robert Curry  United States	John Hein  United States	Gustav Thiefenthaler  Switzerland
Flyweight details	George Mehnert  United States	Gustave Bauer  United States	William Nelson  United States
Bantamweight details	Isidor Niflot  United States	August Wester  United States	Louis Strebler  United States
Featherweight details	Benjamin Bradshaw  United States	Theodore McLear  United States	Charles Clapper  United States
Lightweight details	Otto Roehm  United States	Rudolph Tesing  United States	Albert Zirkel  United States
Welterweight details	Charles Ericksen  Norway	William Beckmann  United States	Jerry Winholtz  United States
Heavyweight details	Bernhoff Hansen  Norway	Frank Kugler  Germany	Fred Warmbold  United States

[Plasmodium]

Just now, gimpeltf said:

1904 (I know)

Games	Gold	Silver	Bronze
Light flyweight details	Robert Curry  United States	John Hein  United States	Gustav Thiefenthaler  Switzerland
Flyweight details	George Mehnert  United States	Gustave Bauer  United States	William Nelson  United States
Bantamweight details	Isidor Niflot  United States	August Wester  United States	Louis Strebler  United States
Featherweight details	Benjamin Bradshaw  United States	Theodore McLear  United States	Charles Clapper  United States
Lightweight details	Otto Roehm  United States	Rudolph Tesing  United States	Albert Zirkel  United States
Welterweight details	Charles Ericksen  Norway	William Beckmann  United States	Jerry Winholtz  United States
Heavyweight details	Bernhoff Hansen  Norway	Frank Kugler  Germany	Fred Warmbold  United States

Asked and answered!

 

[mspart]

Willie Nelson is old, but I didn't know he was that old!!

mspart

[WrestlingRasta]

5 hours ago, nhs67 said:

... Didn't you say that he was incapable of bringing home a medal?  Wasn't that your stance?

It is okay for you to have an opinion.  It is also okay for it to be wrong.  Relax.  It's okay.

You got the stickies…don’t you. 
 

No, I didn’t. 

[nhs67]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

You got the stickies…don’t you. 
 

No, I didn’t. 

Same team.  Still counts.

[WrestlingRasta]

5 hours ago, Jim L said:

And it is another thing to have beaten multiple medalists.  If you can regularly beat guys that have won medals it should be obvious that you should be viewed as a medal threat.

I agree with 99% of that. I just don’t go so far ahead of myself to consider a guy world medal threat….who is not competing in the world championships. Countless upon countless examples of people who have beaten a medalist, yet never competed in a world championship, let alone medaled, keep me from taking that step. 

Maybe this will simmer everyone’s onions:

Do I believe he has the talent and skills to win a medal some day?  Sure. 
Do I consider him a medal threat in a tournament before he is able to put it together enough to qualify for said tournament?  No

 

[mspart]

I have to say, my onions are simmered now.  

mspart

[AgaveMaria]

On 5/2/2023 at 10:37 AM, Plasmodium said:

This is true, but I think he'll have more success against international competition than, for instance, Brooks.

His issues are David Taylor and that Americans rely on conditioning, which is his kryptonite.  I hope he joins his brother in Mexico.  I think he has an excellent shot at a medal.  Personally, I enjoy watching him.

Mexico will find him loading up on frijoles, mole, hueveos rancheros, burritos, menudo, tamales and more. He will be wrestling Gable Stevenson weight before you know it and will successfully bypass Cox and Snyder.

[Plasmodium]

16 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

Mexico will find him loading up on frijoles, mole, hueveos rancheros, burritos, menudo, tamales and more. He will be wrestling Gable Stevenson weight before you know it and will successfully bypass Cox and Snyder.

How about some of those agave distillates?  Will he load up on those?

[Wrestleknownothing]

58 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

How about some of those agave distillates?  Will he load up on those?

If he doesn't, I will.

[SocraTease]

Valencia can wrestle for Mexico but not this year.   

There is a window and waiting time for transferring to another country.

Seems there is a de facto "transfer portal" now for freestyle (international) not just folk (domestic).

In the future, guys might be able to wrestle for Mars or Venus or Jupiter.  

[Tripnsweep]

57 minutes ago, SocraTease said:

Valencia can wrestle for Mexico but not this year.   

There is a window and waiting time for transferring to another country.

Seems there is a de facto "transfer portal" now for freestyle (international) not just folk (domestic).

In the future, guys might be able to wrestle for Mars or Venus or Jupiter.  

I wonder if by then August Wesley will be representing Uranus. 

[WrestlingRasta]

12 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Same team.  Still counts.

I don’t even know what you’re trying to say here. 

[WrestlingRasta]

11 hours ago, mspart said:

I have to say, my onions are simmered now.  

mspart

Delish