Rosselli Resigns

[H82Lose]

  On 4/6/2023 at 3:45 PM, Formally140 said:

Stillwater is not really an “Oklahoma school” anymore though… more like Blair central 

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133, 141,  157, 165, 174, 197, hwt all oklahoma kids 125 end of year

[Gus]

  On 4/6/2023 at 8:40 PM, H82Lose said:

133, 141,  157, 165, 174, 197, hwt all oklahoma kids 125 end of year

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I think he is talking about Stillwater High.

[Formally140]

  On 4/6/2023 at 9:06 PM, Gus said:

I think he is talking about Stillwater High.

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Yes

[H82Lose]

  On 4/6/2023 at 9:22 PM, Formally140 said:

Yes

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my bad....and I cannot argue that point

[charmon55]

Sounds Like OU is getting Rob Koll, he is visiting Norman this week

[mspart]

That might be a good deal for OU.   I'd rather Pendleton stay in Corvallis. 

mspart

[charmon55]

https://twitter.com/MrPatMineo/status/1644031956676489217?s=20

[Formally140]

That would be super crappy to Stanfords program and might even put the program at risk again… especially given how much they paid him

[ionel]

  On 4/7/2023 at 7:47 PM, Formally140 said:

That would be super crappy to Stanfords program and might even put the program at risk again… especially given how much they paid him

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Just the fact he took the trip kind of tells you he is getting the support he was expecting from Stanford, not a good sign for the future of the program. 

[Formally140]

  On 4/7/2023 at 7:58 PM, ionel said:

Just the fact he took the trip kind of tells you he is getting the support he was expecting from Stanford, not a good sign for the future of the program. 

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Also true, I remember people stressing about Oklahomas program as well though

[charmon55]

  On 4/7/2023 at 8:25 PM, Formally140 said:

Also true, I remember people stressing about Oklahomas program as well though

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Oklahoma wrestling has been on the hot seat for some time now, dealing with Title IX issues. Luckily alumni and donors have been keeping the program afloat for awhile. I've heard that OU really wants their wrestling program to work

[TexRef]

  On 4/6/2023 at 12:19 AM, Packard said:

It’s a shame seeing the decline of both OK programs. When looking at coaching jobs an old head coach once told me, “The guys that were there got there for a reason. They didn’t forget how to coach all of a sudden.” 
 

Mark Cody did a great job at his other stops and Rosselli was put on the same level as Casey Cunningham. 
 

Probably gonna be hard to sustain success at either program until OK HS wrestling gets good again. Even if one of MI, Iowa, and Ohio take a dip in HS the travel to another talent rich place is so much closer. 

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Mark Cody was given the job at OU because he told them he could raise money, like he did at American. They really liked that idea. Well he did raise a little and then spent it on a lavish trip to Hawaii to wrestle American, Minnesota, and some other team. The following week, OU went to the east coast to wrestle.....American again. That was the nail in the coffin for Cody and good riddance. 

I was surprised that they paid out the money to land Lou in the first place, I hope they land another quality coach. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

  On 4/7/2023 at 7:58 PM, ionel said:

Just the fact he took the trip kind of tells you he is getting the support he was expecting from Stanford, not a good sign for the future of the program. 

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That might be right. I figured as long as he's being paid well and has the support of the AD, Koll would be living easy at Stanford. Guess not. 

[SetonHallPirate]

  On 4/7/2023 at 8:55 PM, TexRef said:

Mark Cody was given the job at OU because he told them he could raise money, like he did at American. They really liked that idea. Well he did raise a little and then spent it on a lavish trip to Hawaii to wrestle American, Minnesota, and some other team. The following week, OU went to the east coast to wrestle.....American again. That was the nail in the coffin for Cody and good riddance. 

I was surprised that they paid out the money to land Lou in the first place, I hope they land another quality coach. 

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Oregon State was the other team. Also, that was an individual tournament, not duals.

[gimpeltf]

  On 4/7/2023 at 7:58 PM, ionel said:

Just the fact he took the trip kind of tells you he is getting the support he was expecting from Stanford, not a good sign for the future of the program. 

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  On 4/7/2023 at 10:06 PM, CHROMEBIRD said:

That might be right. I figured as long as he's being paid well and has the support of the AD, Koll would be living easy at Stanford. Guess not. 

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It's not unusual to take a trip elsewhere to bolster your salary where you already are.

[ionel]

  On 4/7/2023 at 10:48 PM, gimpeltf said:

 

It's not unusual to take a trip elsewhere to bolster your salary where you already are.

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He just took the job, you don't do that one or two years after hired. 

[gimpeltf]

  On 4/7/2023 at 10:51 PM, ionel said:

He just took the job, you don't do that one or two years after hired. 

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Maybe you don't. He did. I assume even if he went with the main thought of actually taking that job, if Stanford comes through ...

[ionel]

  On 4/7/2023 at 10:52 PM, gimpeltf said:

Maybe you don't. He did. I assume even if he went with the main thought of actually taking that job, if Stanford comes through ...

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Find me an example of a head D1 wrestling coach (or fb or bb) that gets a great salary etc deal to another D1 program who then two years later in interviewing with a lesser D1 program and is just doing so to get a salary bump.   

[gimpeltf]

  On 4/7/2023 at 10:57 PM, ionel said:

Find me an example of a head D1 wrestling coach (or fb or bb) that gets a great salary etc deal to another D1 program who then two years later in interviewing with a lesser D1 program and is just doing so to get a salary bump.   

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Deion Sanders

[ionel]

  On 4/7/2023 at 11:01 PM, gimpeltf said:

Deion Sanders

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Where was his 1st and 2nd D1 and where did he interview within 2 years to get a bump to stay at #2?

[Formally140]

  On 4/7/2023 at 8:35 PM, charmon55 said:

Oklahoma wrestling has been on the hot seat for some time now, dealing with Title IX issues. Luckily alumni and donors have been keeping the program afloat for awhile. I've heard that OU really wants their wrestling program to work

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Fingers crossed 

[Show_Me]

  On 4/7/2023 at 6:42 PM, charmon55 said:

Sounds Like OU is getting Rob Koll, he is visiting Norman this week

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Hoping Koll stays @ Stanford. 

D1 Wrestling needs the West Coast to remain relevant.  Plus, Koll in the Big 12 just seems weird.

Storniolo, to me, would make the most sense.  Of course, I am not in the know.

[TexRef]

  On 4/7/2023 at 8:35 PM, charmon55 said:

Oklahoma wrestling has been on the hot seat for some time now, dealing with Title IX issues. Luckily alumni and donors have been keeping the program afloat for awhile. I've heard that OU really wants their wrestling program to work

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If you have Title IX issues, just take a page out of the Iowa playbook and add a women's program

[Formally140]

  On 4/7/2023 at 11:13 PM, Show_Me said:

Hoping Koll stays @ Stanford. 

D1 Wrestling needs the West Coast to remain relevant.  Plus, Koll in the Big 12 just seems weird.

Storniolo, to me, would make the most sense.  Of course, I am not in the know.

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I really want west coast wrestling to do well

[scourge165]

  On 4/7/2023 at 10:06 PM, CHROMEBIRD said:

That might be right. I figured as long as he's being paid well and has the support of the AD, Koll would be living easy at Stanford. Guess not. 

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I really thought with all the talent in Cali, and the way he was able to recruit at Cornell, he'd have a lot of success there.
Built a powerhouse out West at @Formally140stated. There's so much talent out there and relatively few programs. 

I really hope this doesn't end up being the death knell for Stanford...and it's tough to imagine OU dropping their program. It's surprising to hear that it was even being talked about.