BigTimeFan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I love Spencer Lee and in his prime I would drop everything to watch him wrestle. But it's been a long time since we saw full Lee and now between glimpses of the old Lee I see someone who looks a little out of shape, a little vulnerable and a little, well, washed up. He didn't place in worlds last year and whille he still beats the second tier, LL was able to hold his own in period one and pull out a win in period two. I don't know but I think his days are numbered. If not this year, I see it coming soon.
BigTimeFan Posted April 26 Author Posted April 26 Just now, BigTimeFan said: I love Spencer Lee and in his prime I would drop everything to watch him wrestle. But it's been a long time since we saw full Lee and now between glimpses of the old Lee I see someone who looks a little out of shape, a little vulnerable and a little, well, washed up. He didn't place in worlds last year and whille he still beats the second tier, LL was able to hold his own in period one and pull out a win in period two. I don't know but I think his days are numbered. If not this year, I see it coming soon. and yes, I met is Lee washed up ..
JMill Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Something needs to change… If he’s not being promised the HC job at Iowa, and he plans on competing through 2028, he needs to relocate to Stillwater. 1 1
mr.nonothingatall Posted April 26 Posted April 26 17 minutes ago, JMill said: Something needs to change… If he’s not being promised the HC job at Iowa, and he plans on competing through 2028, he needs to relocate to Stillwater. I mean at this point, he isn't achieve his desired goals at iowa. I don't see why he stays. Him getting the next HC job is looking less likely, he just lost to a PSU wrestler that is 7 years younger than him. But Spencer has a chance to get that match back at final X Full of un-bias blasphemy.
Hammerlock3 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Lee has been a broken toy for a long time "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
ionel Posted April 26 Posted April 26 21 minutes ago, mr.nonothingatall said: Him getting the next HC job is looking less likely Thought stickybun said he is after Beth's job ... no? 1 .
Room Guy Posted April 26 Posted April 26 He looked great until he hurt his arm. Fast, crisp. Tough crowd. 1
LJB Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Lee looked the absolute best he has ever looked since 2019 overseas last month... if you watched you would know... Lilledahl is the smartest wrestler i have ever been around and that comes from his family... it was clear from the start he wanted to keep it close and push to deep second period... he did... did i think he would wait until 2 seconds left? no... but they give you 6 minutes for a reason... 2
LoserJucoMan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, Room Guy said: He looked great until he hurt his arm. Fast, crisp. Tough crowd. Spencer Lee getting hurt is a damn near a guarantee
LemonPie Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I don’t think he looks out of shape. He’s jacked. He’s just balding and won’t let go of it. I think that is altering your perception. Gas tank has never been his strength. Don’t think age has anything to do with it. 2
LJB Posted April 26 Posted April 26 42 minutes ago, LemonPie said: I don’t think he looks out of shape. He’s jacked. He’s just balding and won’t let go of it. I think that is altering your perception. Gas tank has never been his strength. Don’t think age has anything to do with it. Medals are just arbitrarily given, right? bronze doesn’t mean anything, right??? just pick a name out of the hat, right??? 1
dragit Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Room Guy said: He looked great until he hurt his arm. Fast, crisp. He did look good, positioning was solid and he was controlling the mat. But regardless of the injury, it's a concern that he seemed to make a similar mistake today that he did against Ramos in the NCAA semis. Both times he put himself in a throw situation by getting kind of a bear hug but with his head buried--and trapped--against the opponent's chest, and then couldn't defend the throw. He just seems to not be able to close competitive matches at the end and it seems less like a gas tank or injury issue than a guy who isn't well prepared for those match situations.
BIGTENFANBOY Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, dragit said: He did look good, positioning was solid and he was controlling the mat. But regardless of the injury, it's a concern that he seemed to make a similar mistake today that he did against Ramos in the NCAA semis. Both times he put himself in a throw situation by getting kind of a bear hug but with his head buried--and trapped--against the opponent's chest, and then couldn't defend the throw. He just seems to not be able to close competitive matches at the end and it seems less like a gas tank or injury issue than a guy who isn't well prepared for those match situations. The Ramos throw was not the fluke/catch many make it out to be. It was literally the 3rd time Ramos put Lee on his back.
LemonPie Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 6 hours ago, LJB said: Medals are just arbitrarily given, right? bronze doesn’t mean anything, right??? just pick a name out of the hat, right??? Correct. Totally serious post. Keep going. Abdullaev > Lee Edited April 26 by LemonPie
Eagle26 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I think Lee looked pretty darn good. He’s a guy that has that wow factor because he can tech a lot of really good wrestlers. I think that lead to people believing he was a lock for a world champ. While I agree he has that potential, he’s still going to be tight with those top guys. Luke is one of those guys. He’s a world champ at U17, U20, and U23! Anyone that does that is going to be right there at senior level too. If we send either one of those guys, I like our chances, but nothing is a lock. 2
BigTimeFan Posted April 26 Author Posted April 26 7 hours ago, LJB said: Lee looked the absolute best he has ever looked since 2019 overseas last month... if you watched you would know... Lilledahl is the smartest wrestler i have ever been around and that comes from his family... it was clear from the start he wanted to keep it close and push to deep second period... he did... did i think he would wait until 2 seconds left? no... but they give you 6 minutes for a reason... Fair point. So it could have been the injury and not the level of competition at all.
BuckyBadger Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Lee looked firmly in control until his arm got hurt. He did come back and I don’t know if he actually got injured or if it was more of a quick sting type of thing. But after that sequence he didn’t look the same, so I think it’s hard to say that he is worn out and his days are behind him. 1
OMW Posted April 26 Posted April 26 a couple if things: Lee looked really good until his right elbow got jacked, changed the match. having a leftie HL in the arsenal for just that type of scenario is priceless! LL wasn't going to stand in the middle and concede the end of the match. (okay, 3 things - if you have them, make your kids wrestle Greco and learn to throw from both sides - don't be that shit parent that only cares about results for your little kid age-grouper, have them drill, train, experiment in matches and develop!) 1
Mr. PeanutButter Posted April 27 Posted April 27 It's mental. Always has been. Iowa as a team suffers from it. As big of a Hawkeye Homer as I am, I'm also a huge Lee fan and for his sake I hope he strongly considers transferring if he doesn't get a medal this summer 1
CHROMEBIRD Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Peebs is right. I thought Spencer looked fine but worry that he'll become a headcase after losing another big(ish) match. Idk if this is still his approach, but for a long time he's said he refuses to watch tape and doesn't like watching his opponents. I get Spencer's mentality, "I shouldn't have to adjust to my opponents, they should have to adjust to me" which sounds tuff and all, but maybe a little game planning can help narrow the gap. If there's a rematch with LL, I hope his adjustments aren't limited just to what he remembers about his feel.
Bulldog Posted April 27 Posted April 27 He's still the pick. I don't think there is much doubt it will be Lilledahl and Lee in Final X. If/when that happens, most will pick Lee despite last weekend.
bnwtwg Posted April 28 Posted April 28 15 hours ago, Bulldog said: He's still the pick. I don't think there is much doubt it will be Lilledahl and Lee in Final X. If/when that happens, most will pick Lee despite last weekend. To be fair, it's pretty hard to pick against an olympic silver medalist wrecking ball who got a draw last year that casuals won't appreciate. US is in prime position either way to bring home a medal... or more... 1 1 i am an idiot on the internet
BloodRound Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Feel for Spencer Lee when threads like this get made. Washed up? He hasn't even turned 30! But because we have heard the name for so long and associated it with "dominance," then anything less begs the question of if he's still got it. I think he does. He's taken losses to plenty of other elite wrestlers over the years. Nothing new. He won an Olympic Silver less than 2 years ago. 1
Ragu Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Gotta see what happens at Final X, but say Lee loses his spot this year does anyone disagree he needs to get out of HWC? https://x.com/RaguWrestle
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