LoserJucoMan

Spencer Lee getting hurt is a damn near a guarantee

Man I have some news that's going to absolutely make your blood boil. I heard when Mitchell Mesenbrink was a kid he stepped on a crack. and he didn't even care that he broke his mother's back! what an absolute devil of a man! . You and me see through his facade. He's actually a guy planted from the BJJ community sent to destroy wrestling from within

I already said he improved at Iowa. I'm not arguing on that. Iowa has more funds for International competition than Oklahoma. But once again, they got a man who got 3rd twice to 1st. It's not the same as what they did with Caliendo

I'm not saying he didn't improve at Iowa. What I am saying is that it's disingenuous to act like they didn't have somebody already preassembled that wasn't already of champion caliber. His placings before Iowa were 8th, 3rd, 3rd. To act like there's no chance he could've won it at Oklahoma is just Hawkeye deepthroating

I respect the honesty lol

Wasn't he also a three time AA that placed third before transferring to Iowa? what did they really need to teach him?

If a team is having an issue with getting taken down due to the danger rule is the solution to hire Dean Heil just because he's a two time Natty champ?

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that he is definitely not lol

I can't believe this is even a topic. Who cares? You guys call his speech cringy. You call him an arrogant jerk for trying to shake everyone's hands on the podium. You just don't like the fact that he wins. Other wrestlers have done WAY worse and don't get half the criticism. Not every person good at sports has a great personality. Wake me up when he starts trying to intentionally injure people or throwing hissy fits because he lost or something.

Meyer Shapiro has finished worse in each consecutive year. 3rd to 5th to 8th. Plus he's a health risk considering he was in a coma and had lung failure. Schools will pay but I'd be surprised if it was top dollar. But why would kasak be damaged goods? he's a two time 3rd place finisher

I agree with you and i just disagree on execution. I think the refs need to call stalling more I think that fixes the issue. Too many wrestlers are relying on rideouts to get a win, not only is it horrible to watch but it encourages antiwrestling. Either take more risk and initiate offense or lose like Minto and Mcgowan because of stall calls.

Oh yeah true I forgot Allred got injured. I definitely think he can AA, I just don't think he's offensive enough to be able to eek out close matches with the elite, but who know? maybe Jacob Warner could teach him some magic to make it to the finals

Gabe arnold AND Mcenelly went into overtime with Dylan Fishback at 184 is he a title contender even though he didn't place? What about Silas Allred? he lost to Mcenelly in overtime and didn't place either

Thats absolutely horrible logic Didn't Nasir Bailey take Sergio Vega to overtime? What place did he get again? he's not a title contender for next year Didn't Koy Buesgens beat Aden Valencia this year? What place did he get again? He's not considered a title contender for next year Lilledahl went to overtime with Bouzakis. What place did Bouzakis end up getting again? Jore Volk went to overtime with Lilledahl and took 7th. You think overtime guarantees you can make the finals? Dude got 7th at 197, which everyone said was a weak weight class all year. I'm not saying Gabe Arnold is bad but he's hasn't shown anything to be good enough to win it