billyhoyle

The only people who don't recognize this move as completely idiotic are a subset of Iowa fans. I think even most Iowa fans think this is absolutely insane. Maybe Brands will be right and the sixth chance will be the charm for the two older brothers....Seems like quite a risk though.

Recruiting the three Ferrari brothers is easily the dumbest thing I have ever seen in decades of following this sport. The only way this makes any sense is if Angelo is the only one that ends up on campus and he somehow manages to disown the rest of his family. Anthony has already faced misdemeanor charges of battery. A.J. is looking at felony sexual battery/assault. You know what you are getting with 2/3 and with the youngest, the smart thing would be to just avoid him given his family (even if that is unfair to him, that's life). This is such a bad idea-if any of them commits a crime against another U of I student or a member of the local community, Tom Brands needs to be fired. His job should be tied to their behavior. You don't invite people who have faced criminal charges onto your team and into your community (and seemingly show zero remorse for them) without taking personal responsibility for their actions. I'd argue even John Smith holds some accountability for failing to discipline A.J. despite his countless transgressions in the years leading up to the alleged sexual assault incident.

There's an old ski town saying about that.

That's not going to help you get into college.

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Why go off the rails at the end there? Isn't he Italian? The guy has a criminal record and may not get in anywhere. This post makes the most sense to me for what may have happened:

For a non wrestling reason, but they mention that they were wrestlers in the story. Pretty amazing story. https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna86013

Beyond piling on. Absolutely a vile post. It's obvious exactly what that line means and it is a disgraceful thing to say about a specific person. The joke itself in isolation is fine, but it's awful to direct it at somebody in specific.

So what does it come to on a per-session basis? 50-100 dollars?

How many sessions does this get you? If it’s 250 for a single session that is insane. If that gets you everything it’s a very fair price.

It's really not a slippery slope like you're making it out to be. There is one standard of evidence required to lock somebody up. The standard required for the University of Iowa and its wrestling program is what they deem sufficient to know somebody doesn't belong within their community. That latter standard can be significantly lower than the requirement of criminal cases. The evidence will come out during the court proceedings, and regardless of the verdict, people can make their own judgments on the matter. Why does it make sense this way? Well, letting somebody with a history of being accused of sexual battery is opening up your university to lawsuits. The standard for a civil case is lower than a criminal one, so that is the standard that would be applied to any university that brings somebody accused of this crime on campus.

Now do Zalesky over the time he was a coach.

He is innocent until proven guilty for the sexual battery, but he has already behaved very recklessly prior to that. While the trial is ongoing, the MO should be to keep him away from a college program, just like you wouldn’t want Sam Bankman Fried near a crypto exchange even though he also has the presumption of innocence. And much more important than the risk to a coach losing his job is the risk to the students. They are entrusting the university of Iowa with their physical safety-there is too much unknown and the allegations are so serious that I would not want my kids on the same campus until much more information is known. If he were to do something while on campus, those responsible for bringing him in would be responsible for his actions morally in my view.

Yes. For both his reckless driving and the video of him shooting guns blindly into the night. That is enough that it was irresponsible for JS to keep him on the team. The sexual battery is alleged but those other two actions are not. Final thing to consider is the trial itself. Does it get dismissed immediately? Does he plead guilty? What will the victim testify to? All of these are important to consider regardless of the verdict itself. Simply being acquitted may not clear his name.

Putting it that way blows my mind even more (assuming Willie is correct and he usually is). An NCAA wrestling coach invited an athlete out on bond for sexual battery to visit a college campus. It seems unbelievable that this actually happened, as it is incredibly irresponsible-if Ferrari actually did what he is accused of, he would be a sexual predator and you would want him nowhere near campus...How is that not an absolutely HUGE story if true?

How is that not a huge problem for people because isn't it an issue from a risk standpoint to bring someone like this on a college campus with so many 18-22 year old women? I get that it's a public school so until he has a conviction on his record he probably shouldn't be barred from being on the campus itself, but is he really there under the invitation of the wrestling program? I hope he is going to be under constant supervision at least.....

I'm sure he will probably clarify himself, but my bet is it had nothing to do with any type of lawsuit threat-he's undefeated in court and isn't big on backing down from his opinions. I think the tweet itself, while completely spot on to call out that disgusting Iowa donor, unfortunately also amplified the vile thing that the donor had posted. So my guess is Willie decided to delete it just so he wouldn't amplify the message.

Ferrari was kicked out the day the sexual battery allegations were announced. He should have been kicked off after the video of him shooting guns recklessly was posted. Or if not then, after the car accident when the report came out about how he was driving leading up to it. But in Smith's defense, he didn't know the guy was an (alleged) sexual predator. But if it were any other athlete, he would have been kicked off of the team much earlier and the assault on campus would not have happened. AJ's actions should not be held against his brothers, but under no circumstances should AJ be anywhere near that program.

Thanks for posting. Can't wait to see how Dake looks after some time in that room with Sandersan and Taylor.

Time to name it the Spencer Lee wrestling room instead.

Money talks. And getting 7 million in Iowa is like getting 20 million in California or New York.

Random internet posters or people actually put their names behind suggesting Ferrari should live on the same college campus as women? I think even John Smith should feel partially responsible for what happened to that woman for failing to kick Ferrari off of the team fast enough. I hope he feels some culpability and will adjust his approach to discipline moving forward. In Smith's defense, he only knew Ferrari was capable of reckless driving. Also shooting guns aimlessly on roads. Also exhibiting zero maturity. But with all that criticism of Smith aside, I can understand him not equating Ferrari's reckless prior behavior with the actions of a sexual predator (allegedly). But to know what Ferrari is now charged with, combined with what he is already on video and on record doing...He is 10X more likely to end your career as a coach than to help it. And if I were the parent of an athlete at Iowa, I would want assurances that there is no chance he would ever join the program. It seems logical to me to recruit the younger Ferraris, make the rules clear, and offer them an opportunity to go forward on the right path. But the older one should not be considered under any circumstances.

When people refer to the Ferraris, I'm assuming under no circumstances would they let AJ on or near campus right? Any coach that would even consider having him in their room should not be coaching.

And that is how Jordan Burroughs became the greatest wrestler of our generation.

I really hope this wasn't what happened. That would be exceptionally egregious. I remember in college the compliance people being very clear to not even bet on March Madness or Fantasy Football. It was made absolutely clear what the rules were, and I'm assuming it still is.