Dogbone

I just want to add this is an amazing thread and the work @Wrestleknownothing and @gimpeltf provide is invaluable. Hopefully, PSU either doesn't top 171.5 or they blow past it and we don't have argue over whether the 3 point TD made it easier for PSU to accumulate bonus points that Iowa didn't get to enjoy in 1997.

With Van Ness, Gomez isn't talented enough to win it all? I didn't think Van Ness was a next topic, national champ.

I agree. I don't think he would even call, but I also don't think he would get/accept the job so if we are going to play in hypotheticals, lets at least have some fun with it.

It's a great question. I can't imagine any former AWA would be off the table. I don't think KOT is going anywhere but if Ben called and asked him, it's probably not a hard no.

This is a message board where Kyle Dake/David Taylor/JB are suggested for every college opening including the not vacant Iowa job. Your logic and reason have no place here. The no brainer, imo, is Tony Ramos. Let him be close to home/Izzy/ recruit Chicagoland. I imagine he can build a relationship with Askrens and they don't have to deal with Boosters/Admins, etc.

It did?? There is no evidence to suggest Foca could have or would have beaten Labs during that tournament. He didn't get the opportunity but that doesn't mean it did matter. Of course, every tournament has examples were the the eventual runner up didn't beat the eventual 3rd and the hypothetical finals would be different. Seeding 1-4 absolutely has an impact and is important. Foca just isn't a great example.

It is not a point of pride. It sets up the Semifinal matches. If Carr and KOT wrestle twice before NCAAs, I don't think we need to see that match on Friday night just because MM or Ramirez didn't have the same schedule. Of course it matters for the lower seeds as well as it sets up their path to AA.

I thought regardless what the formula spits out, the committee can move a guy a spot or two. To me, the committee should be splitting up Carr and O'Toole (i.e. don't let them be the #2 & #3 seeds or the #1 and #4 seeds). If a formula splits out MM #1, I am okay with it as long as the B12 runner up isn't on the same side as the B12 champion.

Today? No. But I view it as 100% hypothetical and if he was given the green light today, I think he could make 174 by March. Swafford is a great story but he is probably a fringe NC and not a AA threat. I don't think he transferred in expecting to start.

I know Kennedy has won 3 in a row but he beat the #41, #51 and #52 guys per wrestlestat. Brands is the returning 5th place finisher. I don't think it matters since they are not going to get their eligibility back but Nelson would be the guy.

What is the real purpose of the ORS anyway? I agree that AJ is abusing the system, but does anyone with a shot of making the team even use it anymore? For example, Spencer didn't take one and I don't think Yianni did either. It seems the guys with Oly goals would rather exhaust their eligibility so they can focus on their Freestyle career than use the ORS to extend their Folk careers. That could be the impact of having an extra covid year, too. Even this year, the guys with the brightest freestyle potential are not using them (Vito, Fix,O'Toole, Carr, Star and AB). Heck I thought I heard Star is going to try 74KG but is wrestling a folk style season 10 LBs higher. (Side note, how funny would it of been if Fix used his and then competed in next years NCAAs at 27 with eligibility) Counter point would probably be Micic who might of used 2 ORS (?) so it may have a purpose. I don't know that the ORS had an actual impact on him being successful in Freestyle, but at least there is a guy who took one and had success.

I miss National Duals.

You sure about that?? Do you really think the rest of the board is glad when they see a JC imposter post and all go "glad that guy is here making more troll posts"

I thought it was the defense attorney for the ISU athletes that filed their response but admittedly I have not followed this latest round closing. To your point, that is what the defense attorney should be doing, it doesn't make it fact. (I was just trying to help bring more context to Dresser's comment about the phones being taken and the potential defense that Dresser seem to be parroting). It's possible that the evidence found on the phones could get thrown out but that also doesn't mean they will get off. As you noted the legal case will take time and NCAA is not quick to decide anything.

The report said something to the effect that there were warrant-less searches. It is not clear if the paper he referenced to take phones a warrant or not. It could also be that they didn't have a warrant to use the geofencing which led them to taking of the phones. As others have mentioned, that probably only helps them legally and not with the NCAA.

The team race will still be very boring this year due to PSU's combination of transfers and homegrown talent. Regardless, I hope the Iowa and ISU guys get a year back, whether this year or next. Yes, they broke a rule, but the punishment has been far too steep IMO. Throw in the manner in which this came to light and I have a hard time thinking this was just.

I don't think the lack of matches hurts the individual wrestlers. If anything, the lighter workload probably has them fresher for the 3 day grind of NCAAs. They are practicing and getting better leading up to March, just in the room and not in competition. It only hurts the fans who want to enjoy the season and get excited leading up to NCAAs. I don't think we will go back to guys wrestling 40 matches a season, but we need to find a way to make the 20 matches they do wrestle meaningful.

Really? I thought it was the most competitive tech fall I have ever seen. Smith was very close to finishing the double twice that turned into 10 points for McKee.

Agree that it wasn't a duck for seeding purposes. What I find interesting is Nebraska also sat ranked wrestlers last year vs Purdue, including Cronin against Ramos. Maybe the dual just falls at the time of year when guys need rest. With Ersland a long time assistant under Manning I assume they have a good relationship so it could just be a timing issue.

There was another MTV True Life: MTV for documentary True Life: I’m on a diet. That followed Cory Cooperman around his senior (?) year.

A potential rematch of the epically bad Alton v. Grajales match... Sign me up!

I believe he red shirted in football as well but I also believe it doesn't matter as you get 5 years to compete 4 years in any sport. So he could use up his football eligibility in 4 years and then wrestle in his 5th, hypothetically.

Don't get me wrong, I think Kueter is the favorite if he goes as he is the better P4P wrestler and all around athlete just will be interesting considering the size different. Kueter may not be in his best wrestling shape but I can't imagine he is that much of a disadvantage condition wise than Nash. Heck, Nash hasn't even wrestled a full 6 minute match in the last 6 or so years. My point with the lineman reference was to highlight Nash's strength advantage even if he is no longer 330. Not that it matters but LBs typically use their hands to keep lineman off of them while DT are in the trenches trying to move lineman and gain leverage to control gap assignments.

In addition, I think his caloric intact was fairly high to try and keep that weight up for football. There was an article (might be behind a paywall) that mentioned he cut out soda, lemonade and only eats 4 eggs now instead of the 8 he was eating during football. I imagine he didn't actually start at 330 and once he started eating better and attending wrestling practices the wight came off. Regardless, he is a full size 285 who is used to battling against 300+ lineman. A match with The Cooter will be an interesting style matchup.