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Right...as opposed to the words of Trump himself! I'd just note that when the first Target started burning and the looting of that began, who was it that started that fire? Eh, not important. Detract from Trump saying what a good job, "an incredible job," Tim Walz did and calling him a "great man."

One LAST thing...and this is why it's...pretty useful to look a little deeper into the numbers. Do you think the Pandemic HELPED or hurt Wages with regard to the pandemic? That growth was disproportionately POSITIVELY impacted because so many low-wage earners were laid off in 2019. We saw the wages of high earners explode as a direct result of Covid. So...again, the bad things that happened under Covid-No blame for Trump The GOOD things...he gets credit for those as well! I won't even get into the Tariff War started under Trump...which he STILL believes is a "tax" on China rather than the American people. I mean...for a business man, you'd think he'd understand at least the business side of US History and how tariffs were what finally pushed the US into the great depression.

It's beyond exhausting all the "but Covid," shit. Yeah, and then who took over the Covid problems? BUT, since we just want to ignore and dismiss what Covid did to the Economy under Biden, lets talk about what Trump DIDN'T do with regard to Covid. He DIDN'T ban travel...though he'd have you believe he did. In the first two months after he SAID he banned travel, 40,000 people traveled too and from China. What he did was ban the issuing of new Passports(because there was a massive demand for people wanting to go to check out China at that point, right?)-that's it. How about just being prepared for Covid? Did he have to assemble an entire team with hundreds of infectious disease specialists and then place them around the world and then have a plan in place for the next pandemic so the US, the GLOBAL LEADERS could help prevent it? Nope. That was already in place. Over 40 infectious disease specialists were ALREADY-IN-WUHAN when Trump took over. He called them back, he dismantled the Pandemic response team, the ONE item that Obama said he expressed the importance of. And he just...like most things, if Obama did it, no matter how good or bad it was, he just was rid of it. Then in a REAL measure of leadership, what did he do when asked about it? The Buck stops with me, right? That was Truman IIRC...because you're the President and the leader of the free world. Trump? Eh...not so much. With regard to wages, again, if you're going to cite inflation AND say there was negative wage growth, it's like saying someone got punched in the face AND hit in the face. It's NOT negative wage growth. It's not great wage growth(though it's increasing and now outpacing inflation)...but the negative wage growth is RELATIVE to inflation. And WHAT is that a result of? I know people love to just say "Biden." What causes inflation? Supply line issues, tariffs, massive spending...so remind me, what was happening when Biden took office? He was RIGHT in the middle of the Covid pandemic. There's always an * associated with Trump and HIS economy...like it's just soo unfair to him personally that Covid came along, but what type of economy did he inherit? A booming economy left behind by Obama. And what did Trump leave Biden? An absolute shit show. So yes, the Pandemic REALLY happened. It was REALLY still happening when Biden was President and it should have NEVER been NEARLY as bad as it was with a competent Government in place. Trump just ignored it for 5+ months. Then when he couldn't, he said it'll just "magically be gone." You cannot minimize Trump's economy, excuse it because of the Pandemic and then just ignore how he did NOTHING to mitigate the Pandemic. Actually, WORSE than nothing, he rolled back the safeguards we had in place. Then he has the balls to say China lied to him, they weren't honest...and I don't know, the CCP is the CCP, there's no confusion over the type of people who run China, but wouldn't that be a GOOD reason to have your OWN people in place? But finally, lets just go with one last thing you said; THEN WHY ARE YOU ASKING WHY THERE IS INFLATION! LMFAO....what do people NOT get!!! -14 Trillion dollars -Keeping the interest rates EXTREMELY low for FAR too long(which...it should be very-very troubling for anyone who's following what Trump is talking about that he wants the Fed to report to him rather than be independent...that is among the dumbest ideas I've ever heard and could have disastrous consequences...they absolutely MUST remain independent. I'm quite sure Biden would have had Powell cut by 75 basis points if he was in charge). -Gov't spending And this one is real neat. There's this myth that it's the Democrats who spend too much...despite repeatedly coming in and taking over terrible economic conditions(particularly the last two, Obama and Biden). Here's the REALITY of the situation; Reagan-Took the deficit from 70B to 175B. Pennies, but still amazing. He did start to tax social security after cutting taxes and he was about as erratic as Tiger Blood Charlie Sheen when it came to tax cuts and tax hikes, but all the same. Bush took it up to 300B-In his defense, he tried to raise taxes to pay down the debt and lost the election...though not because of Ross Perot as many(including myself) were led to believe. Clinton...what did he do? He got the deficit back to ZERO. We had a SURPLUS under Clinton. Bush Jr? 0 to 1.2 Trillion. Obama, despite coming in under the housing crisis, much like Biden with the Pandemic, he cut it back from 1.2 Trillion to 600B. In fact, I remember all the hand-wringing because he froze spending in order to do so. Trump...almost immediately ran the deficit back up to 1 Trillion in 2019. So we won't count 2020 because...it's apparently not fair. It's an amusing perspective to me, to NOT count the bad things that happen under a President because...he can't help them, but then turn around and hand that same blame to the next President coming in, but I understand, there's a narrative and we have to stick with it. So BOTH Parties spend too much. One party...going back ~45 years, they're significantly more responsible for the deficit. Either way, 14 TRILLION it cost the US Economy(you can never actually know the full extent as it's not possible to quantify all of the problems)...and then people ask why we had inflation AFTER that! It's amazing. All I know is SOMEHOW none of it was ever at all Trump's fault. He had ZERO responsibility to do anything, right?

Who is "they?" Both candidates are for it. And...I don't really give a shit about tips, but that's probably because it doesn't affect me. BUT...maybe the difference is that Janitors aren't paid 2.50 or 3 bucks an hour. They're not paid below minimum wage with the assumption being they'll make up the difference. Again, BOTH candidates are for this, I don't really see why people would be against it. It's just limiting the size of the IRS. Does ANYONE believe Waitresses or Bartenders are keeping track of the money they make in tips and paying tax on it now? Less Government! I thought this was a good thing! LOL...

That's ironic? Cackling...a "witches" laugh. There a lot of male witches? They use the term with men a lot? Or was the last time this was actually used in a campaign...SHOCKINGLY when Hillary ran. Small minds. Clever bit though. If I can observe something is lazy sexism then I must need a "safe space," right bud! Oooh...you're a clever one...

Ok...so John Kelly is lying? The man literally came out and confirmed that among other things. We heard the man say John McCain isn't a hero with the 'I like people who weren't captured.' https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-called-military-veterans-suckers-154132839.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall As for the "type," of person you're talking about...again, just a bunch of noise. Spent 24 years serving, retired a couple months before he even knew he was going to Iraq, they weren't deployed to Iraq for another...what year? He DID attain the rank, that's BS, he didn't continue with the qualifications AFTER getting promoted and he retired at a lower one. But it's amazing he's the type of person to think that DESPITE a decorated General having SAID Trump said that(as well as his former Chief of staff). Not to mention...Walz ACTUALLY served. Trump said he had bone spurs and asked "what's in it for them," to those who did. But suuuuure...Walz is the "type," to say what Trump actually did. Again, just like Kerry and the Swift Boat nonsense.

He quite literally did though. "Tim Walz is on the phone and....uh....we spoke. I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days, and the whole world was laughing, I spoke to other Governors on the phone and I think he's an excellent guy, Tim is on the phone now, I was very happy with the last couple of days Tim, you knocked them out the last couple of days like bowling pins...." Walz-Speaks, talks about mobilizing the entire National Guard; "But Tim, it showed the INCREDIBLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR GREAT STATE(speaking over each other)... He says it, trying to paint the interaction differently is just not honest. You can listen to what he said.

The full story? He said Walz did a great job...better than other Governors and he said it at the time. That's the context.

You're not going to address how you just posted something that was objectively false... A proven lie and you want me to explain to you how inflation works and why things are going to be "different," when in fact...inflation is coming down. I'm not going to address 2nd and 3rd topics until you address the topic you lie about. It just results in a circular argument. For instance, not going to point out that SHE hasn't had 3.5 years or how WAGES are now outpacing inflation...I'll leave that until you respond to the "wages have fallen 4%" lie.

Trump praised the hell out of him for what he did as the Gov of Minnesota! All the noise, the guy retired after 24 years and the right, running a guy who calls vets "suckers and losers," and asked, 'what's in it for them,' is trying the same shit Bush did with Kerry. That's it. That's all it comes down to.

Yes, I'M the one who "made it up," there sport. It's definitely not part of a caricature of a witch that dates back literally hundreds of years in relation to women... Jeesus...you really can't fake this type of stupid. My bad. I assumed it was just people playing dumb. I gave some of y'all too much credit.

Guess I'll have to agree to disagree(kinda...). I think he's pretty damn good here. Getting up in the middle of a National Campaign and being thrown into the spotlight...I don't think he's as comfortable with the rally speeches and the crowds. But this is a guy I'd want representing me. And the fact that after all that time service, he doesn't own stock and his net worth is...actually less than the average American(certainly 60-year-old American)...this helped make me a fan.

No, you're right. You often hear people talking about Men "cackling." And who's the "language police?" I don't know how to answer such a stupid question. Anyone with the power of observation.

When it comes to finances...I'd REALLY recommend people take JUST a few minutes to educate themselves. The idea that wages have gone DOWN 4% under Biden(or I guess the claim was under Harris) is just...comically ignorant and objectively not true. I mean...even if you WANT to stay ignorant with regards to the Political Landscape, it's dangerous to be making economic decisions when you don't even understand what the issue is. That "Jobs report," that tanked the economy? The actual numbers came out and again, they were better than expected. Just as was the case with Obama, he came in and was handed an economic DISASTER from the previous administration. What they've done in 3.5 years? If you're really arguing the economic policies of the Biden administration aren't working, you simply don't understand them. And that's fine...but you kinda expose your ignorance when you cut and paste just ridiculous misinformation from a Twitter post. It'd be like a post saying the Trump was president for the 8 worst days in the HISTORY of the Stock Market. If you said that, you'd...be a fool. If you said he was POTUS for the 8 largest net losses in a day in the Stock Markets history, well, that'd be 100% correct. But...it's kinda important to understand the distinction. (I DO understand I'm asking too much from some people like Scout here! LOL...but seriously, your retirement accounts are obviously pretty damn important. So now would be a good time to consider rotating out of the Large Caps and talk to your advisor about IWM or about getting more exposure to the Russell, especially if the fed cuts by 75 basis points from now until March...which is the projection at the moment).

You're funny dude. So the thread was about a fundamental lack of economic knowledge and claimed we were headed toward this stock market crash because of Job numbers when it was actually about the Japanese Carry Trade and the BOJ raising interest rates. That was the catalyst(that and the market has been on SUCH an incredible burner that it was absolutely due a small correction, still up huge on the year)... But Harris talking about making things more affordable, THAT you find objectionable? LOL...do you just look at Twitter and then blindly repost shit without understanding the context or what it is you're posting? A couple points of clarification. 1-Trump spent ~8.2 Trillion. That's more than anyone in a 4 year period ever. 2-It shouldn't take an economist to be able to understand...inflation isn't the result of what happens the first day you're in office. Inflation STARTED under Trump with that massive spending, the tax cut, then the supply line issues, Covid and they were already on their way up before Biden stepped into office. You need to kinda understand how that works. The Fed keeping interest rates much lower for too long was also a huge contributor(which Trump would like to change as he'd like the Fed to answer to him...an absolutely AWFUL idea for any person. Finally, saying wages are down 4% is fundamentally untrue and it's that type of lie that...apparently people like you just lap up and buy hook line and sinker. INCOMES in the United States have outpaced inflation under Biden. WAGES have not. They have NOT gone down. The problem with this...again, intellectually dishonest post is that I BELIEVE he's trying to say wages RELATIVE to inflation have decreased. So your buying power after your take-home check(and only your check, not your investments or all income, JUST wages)-have 4% less buying power. But then the part that, again, people aren't smart enough to figure out. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/06/joe-biden/have-incomes-outpaced-inflation-since-joe-biden-to/

LOL...oh Jesus...the intellectual dishonesty in full display yet again! This was when Trump was threatening to take away the "Dreamer's" status. The DACA kids. It was pointing out the hypocrisy of celebrating Christmas and using their status as legal citizens She's NOT saying the phrase "Merry Christmas" is offensive...as much as the right has with this...a completely ridiculous non-issue that has NEVER been an issue. Plus, remember when Trump fixed that? You were "allowed" to say Merry Christmas again?

There have been a number of polls in Wisconsin, the laters I saw...IN Wisconsin by Fox6(Milwaukee area) had Harris with a 2 point lead. The polls as a whole this past week have ranged from +1 Trump to +6 Harris. The issue I have is with the last sentence. You went from saying she had "zero chance," to making the argument she's not going to "run away with this election." I have other issues like the idea that RFK is going to cut a deal or that his 6% will just go to Trump...that's kinda ridiculous, but nobody is saying she's going to "run away with this election." But it IS again a real tossup and there's SO much more energy and enthusiasm. This is without her debating Trump, Walz debating Vance and Trump still has more than enough time to melt down(or continue to do so...talking about how she just became black is NOT a winner for him).

Bruh...what are you talking about? I do like how we're actually ticking off all the sexist talking points including the "cackling." But I'm genuinely at a loss here. What point are you trying to make? A woman working one of the tables was wearing a Hijab, so that means...what now? How does this relate to Harris?

For the people questioning Walz, lets hear from JD Vance....what does HE have to say about Trump? Lets compare VPs...(they actually seem to agree on many issues as it pertains to Trump). "America's Hitler." https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/15/jd-vance-donald-trump-comments-00168450

He's not a Shapiro and certainly not an Obama. He's not a great orator, his appearance with Harris did look a little odd...but to me, it's just a guy who's...relatively normal. A guy who was a teacher, in the National Guard, someone the kids loved(and was apparently pretty tough on them getting them in the weight room...but sure, he's not a natural speaker. Obviously, I'd prefer another Obama-style speaker(I think everyone can agree, even if you didn't like him, he was an incredible public speaker). I happen to think Vance is exactly what you're describing Vance is. Then again, I don't think Vance believes what he says(more on that in the next post). I like the guy. My first choice was Kelly. I thought he was perfect. Though...I have ZERO doubt they'd still have attacked him. The former fighter pilot who became an Astronaut, then helped nurse his wife back from a gunshot to the head AND is in a swing state(Minnesota is not a swing state). I'm sure his service would have been smeared all the same(I mean, John McCain's was and that was apparently fine). But he's new to the National Stage. I'll be curious to see how he does in the VP debates. Either way...this election has gone from a NEAR certainty for Trump to a complete toss-up in a very short period of time.

Oh yeah, I'm LOVING the unverified but...uhmm..."Twitter man says!"- Type of posts This is absolutely gold though. Net worth, 330K. This is a man who served in Congress...pretty much the only place you can beat the market by 6-10% on average(only ~10% of traders actually beat the market) and he has no stocks. He was a staunch advocate for banning members or both houses from trading. The attacks; 1-He retired after 24 years when he was eligible to retire after 20. He retired BEFORE his unit was called up. He was already planning a Congressional run. That's...nothing. That is routine. 2-He ONCE when advocating for stricter gun laws said the same weapons he carried in War should not be available on the street(that's ONE mistake). That's the extent of the "dark and twisted path," he's got. 3-and.....? He had a promotion that required him to finish up what's effectively continuing ed in the Military, something even my my right wing relatives, one who's a commander of a rangers reserve unit and one who was an 0-6 in the Navy after 20-some years, he was promoted before he'd spent 6 months on a ship at Sea(I believe that was a requirement to become an 0-5 IIRC, but he already attained that promotion before he'd fulfilled it. It was FAR more common if you go back further. 4-The Minnesota protests/riots(which got particularly bad when one white supremacist started a Target on fire in an attempt to make the protesters look particularly bad(similar to the white supremacists who used protests to murder two people in Oakland)...and Trump was PRAISING the hell out of him! 5-His coaching career But...there is NOTHING here. Something about him claiming to be a "head coach?" LOL...again, seriously? His students absolutely love the guy...but what's the controversy now? Apparently he was "just" a DL coach! He was one of 4 coaches on a winless team, the kids, again, loved him, he was a great coach, helped them win a state title, kids rave about him, but what's the GOP writing? "Tim Walz wasn't a head coach, he was just a DL coach," writes some Fox news contributor! I mean...this is it? LMFAO...THIS is the "twisted" past of Tim Walz? It's so ridiculous. TRUMP'S VP COMPARED TRUMP TO HITLER! He called him a "noxious man," who lacked the moral integrity to lead among other things. This one is particularly bad. You KNOW the right is just grasping...grasping at whatever they can as Tim Walz is about as clean and honorable a man as you've seen on a Presidential Ticket in a LOONG time. No criminal past, and no suspicion of a criminal past, he's open, honest and actually decent. So...of course it's time to try and tear him down! https://www.thedailybeast.com/tim-walz-is-a-great-partner-just-ask-the-football-coach-he-worked-under https://www.npr.org/2024/08/07/nx-s1-5065779/a-look-at-tim-walzs-early-years-as-a-high-school-teacher-and-football-coach

I want to say this and be as clear as possible it's in no way questioning Burroughs greatness...just the narrative, but during his PEAK...when he was...what, 28 years old(about) he went to the Olympics, lost to two guys he'd beaten badly that year to not medal. That was in the midst of a run where he'd been winning year in and year out. So...as GREAT as Burroughs was, he ha one Olympic run. He won a spot on the Olympic team, won a Gold. He was very clearly dominant, but even JB went back as the heavy favorite and lost two straight both on the front and then on the back side. My point being ONLY that is JB can lose TWO matches like that...it just gives you(or at least me) some perspective on how these guys can lose to in the last seconds like Brooks or Lee could wrestle tight, Snyder could lose to a great young upstart or Dake...well, I think Dake was wound WAY too tight and had other shit going on. The meltdown in the Bronze match seemed weird. But generally speaking, hard for me to fault a guy too hard for losing ONE match at the Olympics.

Probably 7. That's my guess.

It's the Olympics and...I don't know, you get tight. I had to overcome not being aggressive enough and opening up(and struggled with it) in tournaments that were meaningless(certainly relatively speaking). So I can see how you'd be up in the Semi's and you would be content just hanging in that underhook or trying to ride the last 5 seconds out on a leg. It's tough to see at that level though. Just brutal.

Yeah, I REALLY struggle to fault a Russian for his political views when high-profile people can end up dead if they speak out. People are just people. They want to live their lives, they want to get up, go about their business. If you're a world class Wrestler, you just want to Wrestle, take care of your Family. I don't like assigning malicious intent to these athletes unless just unprompted they start spewing propaganda. Good reminder...even if you don't always love the person we've got in power, we're incredibly lucky to be able to say whatever the duck duck goose we want...(except when Bob Dole censors me). How sad would it be if Snyder couldn't Wrestle because he spoke out against Biden/Trump-whoever for their foreign policies? Everyone I know would be in prison for...SOME reason over the last ~20 years.