AgaveMaria

Spencer, we understand that and don't expect an excuse for your dropping out and medical forfeits to 6th place. We do expect an explanation. That is not an excuse. It is treating fans, competitors and coaches to the reality of why you did not wrestle the placement matches. If it is really a medical problem, let us know. We have followed your career and cheered/boo'ed you through knee troubles, sickness and triumph. We could see you were not 100% this time. Why not make as simple announcement and clear things up? Injury is nothing to be ashamed of. It happens. It is not an excuse - it is reality. Let your fans know.

Am aware of it. He did it as if he did not want to be seen - that is how it appears. Chael's take has validity. Just can't see Gable handling it like that. But - very different personalities. We'll see how he does moving forward.

RBY choosing Down against anyone. He has been lousy at escapes and reversals against good wrestlers. A real hole in his arsenel in folkstyle.

10 of the last 12 contested...

Optics make it look like he was embarassed to be seen in public. So, rather than appear matside or openly with the team and announde the Medical Forfeits - it Looks Like he ran and hid. Even if he did not wrestle with injury it looks like he did not handle the loss like Gable and Karelin. Both beaten while riding high, both stood and congratulated the winner - in public. Running and hiding does not solve anything. As we see it only sparked rumors and crazy theories. You win, you stand and be seen. You lose, you stand and be seen. In this case you stand and cheer on your team and do it publicly. Spencer did not do it. Hope the injuries heal so he can come back on the International stage and find success, but more importantly learn to live with reality no matter positive or negative.

When younger it was common practice for local judges to give young types involved in criminal activity a choice: Prosecution and jail/prison or enlist in the Military. Many chose the military. Many were helped even as some completely screwed up their lifeline. Give these guys a chance. If they can't make it at least someone tried to help. Maybe..., just maybe it will work.

Deluded, maybe? Need a crutch to help them since apparently they can't rely on their own strength and judgment? From Caels brand of Jesus was a polygamist & Garden of Eden in Missouri & Indians are actually Hebrews to Pentecostal Snake Handlers & speaking in tongues to Islam's minority who teach any non believer should die. Religion is toxic even as some may be helped by faith.

Could be that T&T/admin have checked things our and visited with them and the family. Assurances given and a strict set of rules put out if they come. Guidance counselors and maybe therapy required for it to happen? Every kid deserves a second chance. At times it works. At times it does not - as we saw with Cael and Andrew Long. Even with guidance and strong team support a kid can fail. But - he was given a chance. Why don't the Farrari kids deserve it? As for the youngest one - no problems showing so might be smart to leave him alone in these discussions. "innocent until proven guilty" - not guilt by association.

Since Cael took over at Penn State they have had only one lapse of "two whole years" without a title. Iowa saw a few indificual positive stories but overall a failure compared to expectations.(realistic or not) What Brands & Co are doing is not working - not if you are shooting for #1. Sure, a lot of programs would love to make it to #2. That is not Iowa. Not the program Gary Kurdelmeier and Dan Gable built. A lot like Oklahoma State under John Smith. Winning and looking good and now falling off the radar. Sad and worse than Iowa now. Penn State underperformed, if you listen to the expectations. They still won the team title. Iowa appeared to settle for #2 and appears to be OK with it.

For an Iowa fan "Bright spot" isn't finishing higher than Utah Valley. Or, First Loser as it is called. It is ONLY being #1 and now they can whine about Covid stealing a year from them. Dan Gable had a stretch of No Titles. Sat down & figured it out and came back to win again. So far Tom & Terry have not figured it out. They won't as long as Second Banana is OK with them. As much as they say it is not their failure to address it and make changes shows this is reality.

Thank you for the information. Nice to see the records even with different scoring through the decades. A lot like "Who was better - Yojo or Cael" when looking at records.

Like Mark Schultz with Ed Banach - even though Banach had not yet won his third?

If he takes over as coach and wins 15 NCAA titles in 21 season - time then to commission a Statue. He is a very good wrestler. No doubt about it. If you really want a Lee Statue - we have some Lego's we can sell you so you can make one.

Ed Banach was being hailed as a Sure Thing for 4 NCAA titles. Before he had won his third. Interviews at the NCAA tournament had him winning it all - the Ultimate Iowa Golden Boy. Then he ran into Mark Schultz. Spencer Lee had three in the bag and gunning for his Fourth Title. Then he ran into Matt Ramos. A lot of hoopla, interviews and such before the match. Those who doubted figured it would be Pat Glory who could do the job. No matter, Iowa is snakebit when it comes to "Sure Thing" 4 timers. Cornell tho...

Was Penn State winning with 55 points more than second place Iowa the biggest winning margin in NCAA history? If not which teams have had a bigger point differential?

A lot more with four two time champs... ;-)

A Jesus shirt is fine. Even better if they have a photo of him polishing the Bowling Ball from THE BIG LEBOWSKI.

If faith in fairy tales helps him, so be it. Putting down another religion may well come back to bite him in the future.

Kerk & RBY were not a surprise. Watching their earlier matches you could see the cracks to be exploited.

Yep, he is still coaching. His frustration with wrestlers who are not as dedicated and driven as himself is evident in many matches. He gets good wrestlers but is not getting hte most from them. It is time for a new coach. Hope he goes into announcing/analyzing as he did during the Olympic Games. Such knowledge - it was a pleasure to hear him with his insight and coaching suggesions while the matches were on. Whatever he chooses or is pushed on him he is still one of the greatest wrestlers the US has ever seen. Six times in a row he won it all. First International title was while he was still in College. A good coach but he looks as if he is tired of the grind.

Can't we just watch wrestling, get analysis & commentary? So many obnoxious commercials - as bad as the Super Bowl. Nope, I don't watch it because of all the commercials. Just give us Wrestling.

Doubtful he left. He will man up and show up at the medal presentation. He fought the good fight and lost. Hope he takes it like Gable and Karelin when they did not finish #1.

Watching RBY struggle on bottom is painful. Seeing Parris has one worrying about Kerkvliet in the match. Game plan all you want. RBY is not looking dominant and struggles like a HS Frosh on bottom. Wrestling a long bodied tough opponent who can step over to counter a whizzer may be the death of him. Parris has the athleticism & drive to win at Heavyweight even with Cael & Co's game planning. Don't see it as Cassar vs Steveson. See it as Parris taking it to him. Kerk does not seem to like agressive opponents. Penn State might end up with two Champions this time if Haines can't counter the buzz saw he faces. Doubt that last minute heroics will be his saving move this time.

Tough as nails. But - how many NCAA Titles? You don't get to Great without titles.

Even if there is no working involved - he is just let go? Then again, maybe it is fair as the top guy can't maintain control and chooses to wrestle on his feet. Still think extended riding should be called stalling if the top man is not working to pin the opponent.