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Compare. Cael 159-0 Joey Davis, 133-0 DII Marcus LeVesseur, 155-0 DIII

Concerning Tom, He's already in Iowa.

Cael was a top recruit but at the time if you had to pick one you thought might be a 4 timer it would have been Joe Heskett - who had beat Cael when they met at Reno in High School.

You get a Technical fall or a Fall, also called a Pin. You win by PIN - "pinfall" is a girly man term for the weak minded who never have the courage to even say hi to a cheerleader. Call it a PIN, as in a Pinning Combination. No one ever heard of a "pinfalling combination", ever. Never, ever.

Dave Schultz, obviously. He lost 9 times in College and only got 2nd at the Tblisi tournment while in High School even after he pinned Chuck Yagla at the Great Plains Tournament. All those High School and college losses! Then in world competition he got beat a number of times. He only won one world Gold and one Olympic Gold. His own brother Mark won Three world titles - and that is his little brother! Over hyped? How about your post is over the top asinine

The Mormons first called the new/supposedly restored church "Church of Christ". Then after they found that was the name of another group they changed it to "The Church of the Latter Day Saints". Then a few years later Jesus told Joseph Smith the name was to be "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints". Then a couple decades later Brigham Young decided Jesus did not understand English properly and the name was changed to "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints". Must take some gall to correct Jesus... But, you will notice how important capitalizing "The" is for them. Did they beat Ohio State University to that one?

Watched a few matches this week and takedowns generaly got "TWOOOOOOO" yelling from the audience. How long do you think it will take until most all are on "THREEEEEEE"? I wonder if many yelling it even realize that scoring for takedowns has changed?

You want to see how good the mat looks? Also some wrestling that is worth watching.

More fun than obsessing over why Penn State can't get a winning 125 pounder?

I really enjoyed John Smith on the mike during the Olympic Games. He wasn't just narrating a match, he was coaching and analyzing as he watched. A lot of good information from him on options and technique and even frustrations during the matches. For now: Go Camels! Home of a good team and the greatest wrestling mat around. Nice to see them take Army 24-9.

The silliness of "Exact Name" is not unique to these guys. The Mormons main group in Salt Lake City gets pissy about "call us by our full name" too. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - and their "prophet" insists that using MORMON is "a Victory for Satan". Try http://www.mormon.com and see what comes up.

Maybe they can clarify if they are Hard Shelled Baptists, Southern Baptists, Primitive Baptists, American Baptists, Free Will Baptists, Landmark Baptists, Missionary Baptists, Regular Baptists, Old Regular Baptists, or any of a number of others? Being in California, maybe they are Surfing Baptists?

Here's hoping the Fighting Camels bite the Dogface crowd bigtime.

Colder than a Mother in Laws kiss in North Dakota now - no wonder he sighed with a team in a warm climate.

So, how does Tom compare to Tom Ryan at THE Ohio State University? Ryan is 198-66 with One NCAA Title. Brands is 265-25-1 with Four NCAA Titles. Both coaches have one major problem - Cael Sanderson. He has changed the landscape much as Gery Kurelmeier/Dan Gable did.

Show me the MONEY? Guys make choices and few wrestlers work their way into multi million $$$ contracts for performance on the mat.

I agree a reversal should be the same value as a takedown. Should a 'catch & release' be worth a point? Letting a guy go rather than an actual escape is scored the same. Way different in reality. A point for an actual escape, nothing for a release, maybe? How about way more stalling calls for riding without attempting turns to go for pins? Would eliminate a Technical Fall. You can't pin, you wrestle the full match even it the score is 99-2.

If you were any dumber you would be called Cinnebutt. Pot is still an illegal, controlled substance per US Government rules & laws. No matter that some States are soft on addicts, any time they want a Fed can nail you for having it. Prosecution may be dropped later but you will still have an arrest on your record. These athletes gambled knowing it was not allowed. They earned the punishment.

What is a "Team Leader"? Walks first in line to trip land mines, or what?

I bet you think Pete Rose got screwed also.

Do you guys think Hardy can get over the hump and win it all this year?

The NCAA made the decision to toss them out based on the rules in place at the time. Now the NCAA is considering changing the rules. Those suspended or kicked out should still be so. Going forward, new rules mean new cosequences. Not retroactive changes. The athletes are young adults and learning there are real world concerns for their activities is part of growing up. While they play on the mats, fields and such many are getting shot, blown up and killed as part of their jobs. Young men and women in the military do the job, face strict rules all the time.

They followed the rules and made the decision. If they want to change the rules going forward, no problem. Those suspended or kicked out knew the rules and broke them. Let them live with it.

This is a good example of "tall man syndrome" - something that infects tiny minds who are obsessed with their balls.(read Basketeball types here) Weight is the determining factor in wrestling, not height. Tall and rangy, shorter & built like a fireplug - all have won and it won't change.

Starocci will come back to see if he can win a 5th Title only to find and Iowa Hawkeye blocking his path. Angelo Ferrari meets him in the NCAA finals and pins him!