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I suppose there is a point here. You are law abiding until there is a law made against what you do. Then if you keep doing it, you are not law abiding. A law against stealing presents a law abiding person no issue. But if stealing is somehow redefined to make it what it is not currently (and we have a number of examples of this in the political spectrum right now), then that law abiding person might not be law abiding. For instance, here in WA, your child says he/she is trans. You say no you are not, you are going through a phase etc. If they run away and somehow the state gets their hands on them, WA will not tell the parents where the child is. The child will go to a "foster" home that is not under the foster system. Then the child will be given the treatments they are seeking for. This used to be only a result of serious abuse, either mental or physical. Now this opinion regarding trans is categorized as abuse. And the state has made kidnapping a minor child legal for the state to do in this case. This just became law, and there is a referendum trying to get signatures to put this on the ballot to reject it, but if not, then the parents are no longer acting legally if they do this or hold this opinion and are being forced to accept trans ideology and assist their minor child in transitioning or lose their child. This was not the case 1 month ago, but now is based on the law that just passed the legislature and signed by the governor. Kind of a different example, but one that is happening right here right now. mspart

You can be prosecuted if a thief comes into your house and steals your gun and then uses it in another crime. So the same would apply to the two examples given above. Around these parts, the first offense to be thrown out is the gun charge. Yes, all the liberals want to limit guns and to make laws that punish people for using them in a crime. And then the liberals refuse to prosecute rendering the law useless. But defend yourself with a gun and they are all over you trying to get you shut down and in prison. mspart

I have only smoked pork butt once, three at the same time, but did not marinating or anything. Your idea sounds good. mspart

Here are some thoughts on arms: “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…” – George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790 “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776 “I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787 “What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787 “The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776 “A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785 “The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824 “On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823 “I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence … I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778 “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 “To disarm the people…[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them.” – George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788 “I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” – George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788 “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.” – Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787 “Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788 “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.” – James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789 “…the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone…” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788 “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” – William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783 “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” – Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788 “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” – Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778 “This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty…. The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.” – St. George Tucker, Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803 “The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves.” – Thomas Paine, “Thoughts on Defensive War” in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775 “The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” – Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788 “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.” – Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833 “What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty …. Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.” – Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789 “For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787 “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28 “[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788 “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” – Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 mspart

Here you go Plasi. mspart

Well, then he is thinking next year will be his year!! Good for him, and best of luck to him. I don't think it ever matters the when, there are always hammers out there ready to pound on you. You just have to be the bigger hammer. mspart

I am no Guru on smoking meat, let's get that out of the way first. I will fill the wood box with apple wood chips. I will then line the water tray with foil and fill with water. Then I will place thawed pork butts on the racks of the smoker. Then I will turn on the propane and get the temp up to 225-230F. It will usually stay there and this slowly cooks the meat but is enough to get the chips started smoking. This time I will get the meat to about 150F internal and then wrap in foil. This reduces the crust on the pork as I understand it. New process for me. I did not do this on the previous pork butts I smoked but the crust was fairly thick. My wife and I both like the edges pretty crisp so I think we will do this. Cook until 205 internal temp and remove, and let sit for an hour. Pretty simple. We will give the pork a rub before cooking. Also, at the 150 mark, you can wrap and pull out the pork and put in an oven to finish the cooking. By then the chips have smoked their all and have no more to give. But the internal of the smoker is pretty smoky too so I will probably leave it in the smoker until done. I'm no cook and don't put a lot of thought into how to make this better like "Gee I should cut up apples and add to the top" or other enhancements. This works and I am very happy with my previous results. I looked up this method on the interwebs and the google. mspart

We had homeless folks in Seattle throwing things off of bridges and damaging cars. It was not good. Those with damaged cars were lucky it was not worse. mspart

Well, that was very nice of them. I will be smoking a pork butt this weekend, maybe two. mspart

Agreed. mspart

Ha ha!! OK, we can set a boundary. Coolidge died a few years before I was born. And I am speaking in terms of geological time!!!! mspart

Oh you're nothing but a baby!! Oops, just aged myself. mspart

I have a friend who has been around Mark Schultz and Rulon Gardner. He said they were both crazy a little. mspart

There must be an intensity to him that no one sees. mspart

At the end Munoz says John Smith would wrestle Eric Guerrero and looked bored while doing so after Eric had won a National championship. So apparently he rolled around with the guys. They are probably too much for him anymore. mspart

Yeah, I was just following up on if piece parts are available. Fortunately the voices in my head are only about smoking meats and not anything else. mspart

Well Senator Dole, that's a tough one. mspart

Absolutely. But what if the what ifs didn't get put into a what if thread. mspart

I just found a website that sells the parts for my smoker. Perhaps they sell parts for yours too. The water tray and wood box are available for my smoker. https://www.appliancefactoryparts.com/ mspart

Thanks for the link! mspart

How old are you? Did you like Ike when liking Ike was a thing? It was apparently a too subtle request for you to age yourself. I can say, I wasn't around when Ike was President or running for President. I'm not saying anymore than that!! mspart

The question is Did you like Ike? mspart

I had mojo? I never knew!! mspart

And not just with the military. That is why the Constitution was written the way it was. The Founders knew what people would do given the opportunity. mspart

Perhaps, but it makes my point that all of those folks could probably make it to the Olympics if they were to wrestle for Mexico. staying with the US is most likely not their best option, including Zahid. He couldn't make 86, and wouldn't have mde 92 with Cox there. He will not be able to go to 97 and beat Snyder so he is kind of out of options. Unless he improves greatly. mspart