
uncle bernard
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Not the best faith response, but I'm patient. I'm not "cool with it." He will be punished. But that's not a life sentence worthy crime. He's a young kid who should have the opportunity to grow. I say the same thing to the Israeli counterprotestor who chanted "death to the jews." And I agreed it created a hostile environment. The protests and chants should be focused on defending the rights of Palestinians, not making threats to Zionists.
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1) Many people on here constantly accuse me of supporting hamas. I'm glad you aren't and I jumped the gun. 2) I can't answer for everybody, but I think we all understand that the US has far more power to influence Israel's behavior than Hamas. I also think you'd find disagreement about the "human shields" issue because I think it's largely a convenient line for Israel to justify them taking shortcuts that don't prevent extensive civilian casualties. Yes, Hamas is embedded all over Gaza, but where else are they supposed to go? It's a tiny strip of land with 2 million people and beseiged on all sides. Any military installation would be struck immediately. It is an occupied territory and by nature any military movement within it has to be a guerilla movement. And my criticism is that Israel is perfectly comfortable killing 20 "human shields" if it means they might kill 1 actual militant and that's wrong imo. 3) Which brings me to the next point. You can use the same human shield argument against Israel. Hamas (and the IDF in the crossfire) killed many civilians on 10/7. Some of the most intense fighting took place in Kibbutz with attached military bases targeted by Hamas. Israel is constantly building illegal settlements on the border of Gaza and the West Bank creating a civilian barrier between Palestine and their population centers. If Israel was more concerned with the safety of its citizens, it wouldn't be building settlements next door to a giant prison camp filled with militants who want to kill them. But it's balancing concern with safety and peace with their interest in taking more and more land, which again is in clear violation of international law. *But yes, the murder of civilians on 10/7 (and before and after) is wrong and any person who took place in it can and should be held accountable.*
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yes i do if they genuinely believe it! giving people the opportunity to grow is the only way the world gets better! and i think my being glad he apologized implied that i agreed it was a terrible thing to say but i make it explicit here. individual protestors saying bad things doesn’t invalidate an entire movement. israeli’s held signs saying “kill them all” after 10/7. that doesn’t invalidate their right to live peacefully, even though it’s an evil thing to believe.
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i answered your nyt question. hopefully you can engage honestly about it. posting it here so everyone can read it and engage if they want. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/26/nyregion/columbia-student-protest-zionism.html if this is not the article you were talking about let me know and point me in the right direction.
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okay i think i found this. he is wrong and im glad he apologized. he also didn’t call for death to jews. he said zionists don’t deserve to live. zionist /= jew and the repeated conflation is antisemitic. as part of the columbia protest, he was literally protesting with many jews. your description was very disingenuous and as you say, facts and context are important. a quote from him in the article: “But in an interview earlier in the week, Mr. James drew a distinction between the ideas of anti-Zionism, which describes opposition to the Jewish state of Israel, and antisemitism. “There is a difference,” he said. “We’ve always had Jewish people as part of our community where they have expressed themselves, they feel safe, and they feel loved. And we want all people to feel safe in this encampment. We are a multiracial, multigenerational group of people.”
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These idiots were so worried about squashing any pro-palestinian speech that they ended up sparking a national movement. so short sighted. A college a couple hours away passed a rule in the middle of the night banning tents in their designated free speech zone, came in with riot police and snipers and arrested everyone, gave 1 year bans to protestors (notably a prominent jewish faculty member) and guess what? the tents are back, the protest is 10x bigger, and they’ve given up trying to remove them. what did that accomplish?? idiots.